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@@latbear4blk All I can say is wow. This board doesn't have a rating for that.

Mid to late 90's. Prep was not yet available. He hated condoms. Said his dick was too big. He also partied a lot.

I have a younger, promiscuous friend from my work in spas who used to brag about escaping std's. He was always hot, horny, good looking, with an extra large dick. In our circle of friends, we knew how much sex he had, and we marveled how he managed to escape disease. Then he contracted hiv. He stopped bragging. Sex does come with risk, especially when you invite multiple partners. Taking risk is a gamble. We are all free to test our luck.

I agree. But I've had friends who got parasites from rimming, and the stories they tell of horrific episodes of diarrhea were never something I was interested in sharing. I still think about doing it, but clean opportunities are less and less. If you care about your health, you have to be very careful how you handle promiscuity, especially now that condoms have practically disappeared from anonymous sex.

It's a different topic for sure. It's far more complicated than cut vs. uncut. No pun intended, there's nothing black and white about the subject matter. It's just too easy to label anyone a racist these days. Tagging someone is fast and cheap with social media. It's a lot more challenging to use your brain and think. It's true, escorts use photos to advertise. If a customer doesn't like or prefer a particular attribute, he can pick and choose without fear of being wrongly labeled or tagged. Many customers don't send photos. A lot of customers believe that escorts should not be permitted to have preferences. They believe that escorts should be "all-in," no matter how they feel personally about sex. If an escort can't get aroused by kissing a bald, older, fat man, then I want to know about it. Just because the escort can't get aroused does not give me the right to accuse the guy of hating bald, older, fat men. Hate and sexual attraction are two completely different things.

It's a different topic for sure. It's far more complicated than cut vs. uncut. No pun intended, there's nothing black and white about the subject matter. It's just too easy to label anyone a racist these days. Tagging someone is fast and cheap with social media. It's a lot more challenging to use your brain and think. It's true, escorts use photos to advertise. If a customer doesn't like or prefer a particular attribute, he can pick and choose without fear of being wrongly labeled or tagged. Many customers don't send photos. A lot of customers believe that escorts should not be permitted to have preferences. They believe that escorts should be "all-in," no matter how they feel personally about sex. If an escort can't get aroused by kissing a bald, older, fat man, then I want to know about it. Just because the escort can't get aroused does not give me the right to accuse the guy of hating bald, older, fat men. Hate and sexual attraction are two completely different things.

I think dark skin is not much different than red hair, uncut cock, or cigarette breath. If you're not sexually attracted to certain details, I don't think that automatically dumps you into an -ism category. People are way too quick to scream racism today. Serious ignorance on display. On the other hand, Cleveland has it's share of racists. Their police department is pretty infamous. I, too, wish guys could be more upfront about their turn-ons. However, the minute you express your likes, someone will get butt-hurt for being excluded. You can't win. I think it's smarter for business to at least make the appearance of being open to all. Deal with individual let downs privately.

I would consider it a red flag, too, although, I have used similar words when communicating with a massage therapist. In the massage realm, it is fairly common to lose a regular favorite and want to replace him. I no longer mention that. I hope you notice the horny customer who is jerking your chain long before two years passes. :-) Dealing with a horny customer who may have no intention of meeting is a downside to the business. However, horny men are capable of unpredictable behavior. You can never know when intentions change on a dime.

Another +1.

A person's quotes stimulate thought. That does not mean every word that follows is a direct response to the person quoted. I'm not looking to argue. I'm just stating a fact. I absolutely think they mean nothing. Nothing more than click-bate.

That was very funny. Thanks.

It shouldn't. My posts are public, meant for all eyes who wish to read. If I wanted to address you directly, in a more private conversation, I have the option to PM you. I would argue they mean nothing in this context. I could be wrong, but I think Rentmasseur is the only massage site using those words. IMO, they're using the words to lure customers into using their site. It's called click-bate. It's not easy to get About Us info on Rentmasseur. However, their DMCA agent is located in Germany, which suggests to me they are hosted outside of the U.S. If a massage host used those words on a U.S. hosted site, I imagine it would invite unwanted scrutiny. Wishing you the best, too.

I can assure you, the sense you get on this subject on a public forum may only be half the story for obvious reasons. Additional sense can be found in private messages, if you can find a member who trusts you and is willing to share details. Even with all that, there's no rule book, no guide book, and certainly no guarantees. The provider sets his limits with each customer (they won't be universal), and we customers pay their price. It's best to view their ads as the minimal amount of information available. If you want to know more or ask more, contact the provider. Let him know what you are looking for. Ask him if you can share your fantasy massage with him, and see what he thinks. You'll have a much better time if you don't over think things and keep expectations low.

Way out of line? Where on the line is that? And whose line is it? From what I hear from fellow customers, I don't think "way out of line" is true. I agree no one should "expect" anything other than some form of massage. However, the reality is many of us get more than we expected, much more, depending, and most of us are pleased with that, whether it cost extra or not. Is there a general, universal understanding? I don't think there is. Looks and chemistry (and a whole lot of other details) play a huge role in these matters, and there is nothing general or universal about that. Sensual massage is subject to interpretation and mood, mostly that of the MT. Some visits are more rewarding than others, even with the same guy. Human beings are providing the service, and many of them can be complicated on any given day. So, again no, I don't think there is a general, universal understanding of how this is supposed to work.

That's a bit unrealistic, given that what many of these guys do in the name of massage is illegal. The best you can do is be critical of their business practices here and hope that some of these guys read it and consider your advice. There has always been a hustle aspect associated with sex services for money. Many sex workers see their work as a legit opportunity to upsell, no different than a rental car agent selling extras. The more product you sell, the more you can charge. It's about making money. Some guys wish to conduct their business this way, while others prefer not. There is a lot of choice out there. I prefer the non-hustle types, but if a certain look appeals to you, the temptation to book a hustle can take a pinch out of your wallet. I think Omar is hot, and if he wants to suck my cock during the massage, I'm afraid I might be willing to pay extra for that, even if I didn't know about it in advance. It's not like he is allowed to advertise that. A hot man nibbling at my ear during a massage and asking to provide oral @ $25 extra can have a strange and intoxicating power over me. You just have to be sure to bring extra cash.

I, too, am tempted to see it a second time. It feels like the characters have become sort of friends.

It is strange how certain worker personalities seem to always attract trouble customers. We always had diva workers in the spas I managed. Some were extremely talented, others were just starving for attention. Inevitably, some of the nastiest, most self-absorbed customers would stand loyal to their talentless divas no matter what the circumstance. In management, we often would joke quietly, "you are who you attract."

I was aware of that. Perhaps some wording wasn't super clear. My brain responded to the words assumption and desperation. That sounds like a perfectly reasonable and smart strategy. It won't work for everyone, but thankfully it works for many. That is the perspective I was trying to convey. In the first exclusive spa that I managed, the owner was very careful about offering discounts. She hated the word discount until she discovered that she could use other words, like "special offer" to attract new customers. She would use this discount tool to build newer employees who were hired with no developed clientele and were working on a minimum wage salary. Newer employees with talent and a strong work ethic easily built a loyal following on these lower-priced customers. The owner and the employee learned that 60% was far better than 0%. When it came time to put the employee on commission, the loyal customer base had grown to support the transition. It was a win-win for both.

I didn't think there was an argument, at all. It doesn't matter. The point I was trying to make referred directly to your "Assumptions are almost always a dead end." The fact remains, we as customers can never really know when someone is "desperate." We can assume based on a variety of factors mentioned in this thread, or we can trust when someone specifically says he is desperate, but we can never really know for sure. So, in a negotiation process, when one occurs, no matter how it occurs, a certain amount of assuming will be in play. My point is, with an open mind, some escorts and massage therapists will work for less than their stated rate if the negotiation works for both parties. A reduction in price often has nothing to do with desperation and much more to do with not losing a sale.

Allen Leech looked good. He seems to have lost weight for the movie. He was getting chunky. His various plots were fun to follow. His scene at the bench with the Princess Mary was brilliant. I agree. It did not go the way I had imagined. In the end, Mr. Barrow almost felt instant love and separation anxiety. Robert James-Collier did a masterful job conveying intense feelings. Too bad there were no nude scenes. :-)

He works on a bed for outcalls, but will not perform the service in the nude no matter where. The only ginger you get to see is the hair above his neck. He claims "respectful mutual touching is allowed," and we all know what that means. As for HE, "yes, there can be." He also describes his massage as "light touch." Considering the price, there is no mention of certification. But he's very accommodating with multiple payment methods. He's only 23 years old. He says he loves to travel. His prices are way too high for me. I typically don't look for escort services in a massage, but if I can't enjoy the view of a ginger cock, I see no point in paying a premium for a ginger jock. On top of that, "light touch" is not the pressure I want. This guy excels at his business presentation, but word of mouth and cost ruins any motivation to book. Using clever words to talk about massage aren't enough for me. I need to hear customer raves. Looks like I will pass on this one. https://gingerjock.com/faq

Too bad the negative commentary. He looks damn sexy, and I would love to see his red pubic hair if it isn't shaved.

I agree. The train scenes made you scratch your head and wonder how did they do that? Also, Highclere Castle never looked better.

I paid $28 for my front row center, balcony recliner, reserved seat. I didn't enjoy spending that much, but the only time I had available was a Saturday night. I'm a big fan of the series, so I wasn't looking to fault the film. Julian Fellowes tries to cram too many stories into 2 hours, but in the end it all comes together and it's fun. My sold out audience applauded when the credits rolled.

That's the problem with feeling uncomfortable and NOT asking him to STOP. I try to avoid confrontation. Some people handle rejection badly. I have been lucky, very few episodes where I wanted to end early and get out. Very few. If you're not willing to confront, then there will be times when the effort is a waste of money. Chalk it up to a rainy vacation day. It's not the end of the world, and you know not to go back.