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I used to find Trace Michaels hot, but then he went all stainless steel. I have an aversion to metal, especially around the genitals. I can't go near the stuff. If I discovered my massage therapist wore a Prince Albert, I'd never book another appointment with him. I like nipple play with a massage, but if the therapist has nipple piercings, I won't touch his. I've tried to make it work, but it's a mental block for me.

Finding a really handsome man (face, cock, body, and ass) with serious erotic massage talent is like finding a needle in a haystack. At a certain point you just have to accept that great erotic massage can't be about the face. Most of the service time your eyes are closed. As long as the masseur is sending me to the moon and bringing me to the most glorious climax with his touch and technique, I can deal with a less than ideal face in my fantasy. A decent body, a pretty cock, and nice clean ass for face siting are icing on the cake.

He's got an amazing technique of incorporating sexual elements into his sessions without them becoming non-massage. Most of his videos seem to be older. Here is a 4-handed massage with a lean Black man on the table. The scene gets major hot. https://www.xtube.com/video-watch/another-four-handed-42744171 I also found his RM ad: https://rentmasseur.com/rablondon

Those are two of the best massage videos I've ever watched. It's easy to see and feel the sensuality that is taking place. I find the masseur very sexy. He's got major talented fingers. I want his uncut cock sliding all over my face. His nipple play is really good, and I love the way he strokes the body while his hardon does its thing. Great technique. Wish I could find someone like that in NYC.

I crack up too and move on to something else. There are some bad links offered in this thread. To each is own is right.

Sad but true.

Many people are struggling with thoughts of having no income. If lack of money is haunting people right now, they may not have the self-control needed to say no to customers. This is not the time to choose money over health. Meeting with strangers and performing close contact service is extremely dangerous to both parties. One simple look at how hospital workers are dressing to protect themselves, those who have proper supplies, should convince everyone that avoiding infection is the only way out of this mess. Not everyone will pay attention. Those who don't take heed risk paying a higher price, and their decisions may affect us all.

Actually, I was thinking more about massage therapists, especially those who are self-employed and work at it full-time.

Or better yet, if you have a favorite and you can afford it, send payment as an early Christmas gift and don't bother with discussions about credits and payback. Workers in the personal service industry are going to be hit quite hard. They're going to need every dollar of help they can find in order to survive.

I hate to say it, but some refund opportunities may come down to luck. It may depend on who you talk to and what mood that person is in, especially if the circumstances are unusual. I'm reminded of the time I had a gift certificate with United for $1000 for getting bumped off a flight. I wasn't able to use it and it was nearing its expiration date. I called United, and by chance, I got a supervisor located in Chicago. She listened to my story, and it seemed she sincerely felt sorry for me. She ended up extending my certificate for 12 more months. The poster who mentioned the flood of cancellations may be right. This virus is going to cause a lot of financial pain to business. Some smaller businesses are not going to be able to survive. It may be more difficult to get deposits back.

@easygoingpal It is a Visa.

Last year, I sprained my ankle a week before a business trip. I had to cancel my 4 night hotel stay, about $900, which I had prepaid to get a discount. I contacted the hotel to cancel, and when I asked about a refund, the manager said the prepaid rules were very strict, no refunds. I called my credit card bank which had the transaction and I explained my story. They put the charge on hold and did their investigation. It took 3 months but the credit card bank eventually gave me a full credit for the hotel charge. Ever since, that's the credit card I now use most often.

I would never assume that, and it wasn't my impression during my many visits. There are plenty of men in NYC who enjoy being naked in spa heat, no matter what their sexual preference is. That does not mean that 98% of them are looking to have sex with other men or are there to meet a new boyfriend. I don't recall ever seeing someone who looked like a tourist, but I'm sure they exist. The Russian Baths are a novelty experience.

Whether pubic hair is shaved or not, if anybody wishes to believe there's more gay action at the Russian Baths on 10th St on male-only days than at any gay bath house in America, a whopping 98% worth, then by all means spend the $48 entrance fee and come back here to tell us how many cocks you sucked.

Really? Stereotyping, sizing up, or testing gaydar? I don't know, how do you define cruising? Give me a break.

Do Korean spa goers make the same mess as horny gay men on an orgy hunt?

When viewing a naked man for the first time, sometimes that's the only clue you have. Wow! You must be some social butterfly. You managed to see 98% of visitors either "whip their dicks out" or have them share gay tales with you. Impressive.

That would require some major investment funds. Most gay guys want cheap sex. The entrance fee to an "upscale bath house for gay men" would need to be extraordinary, and even then it would be a serious challenge to maintain.

I have no idea how realistic that stat is, but it sounds like an exaggeration. No one ever asked me if I was gay, straight, or bi when I paid. I have terrible gaydar, and I would swear 60% of the men on the men-only days I visited were something other than gay, based on wild growing pubic hair. But who can know for sure since most straight guys groom these days? Even if the crowd was 100% gay, it's not like the Russian owners are offering or encouraging gay bathhouse service on men-only days. Sure, they want gay money, but the service and respect ends there. The wet room is well lit, even in the steam and sauna. The steam room is all glass and easily visible from outside. Nowhere to hide or be discreet, and the steam is severely hot. Not sure how anyone can sustain an erection there. The sauna room (also very hot) is square, huge, and brightly lit. On all my visits (30 or so), I've never been in that room with only one man present, and the door to the room is constantly opening and closing. The wet area always seems very busy to me, and I usually go during off hours. If you're a horny gay guy on the prowl for spa sex, I can almost guarantee you'll leave the Russian Baths with blue balls, unless you get lucky and drop $120 in one of the massage rooms. I can't imagine this would be the best choice for a horny gay guy on the prowl, but perhaps I'm wrong and plenty of men are leaving with phone numbers and partners they just met.

I think they only allow nudity on gender days, and that may be in restricted areas only, like sauna and steam. I have no memory of men walking naked everywhere, on every floor. I never go naked in public. Even on men's days, lots of towel and swimsuit wearers. I'm not sure why any guy would want to wear a shirt in a wet spa, but in NYC, you find all levels of modesty, and no one seems to care. They provide lockers on the entry floor, which I think is carpeted. Kind of looks and smells like an old high school gym locker room. I think you need to provide your own lock. They may sell locks. I also remember bringing my own towel, but I think they provide towels. They have a phone number. Considering their dual calendar nonsense with the two owners and their one-time visit price increasing, I think you get more value by buying a day pass at a decent health club. There is no real swimming pool or Jacuzzi at the Russian Baths, and the eye candy at a health club in NYC is 10 times what they offer. Plus, a health club's steam and sauna temperature is regulated by the city, and the interior environment tends to be much newer and more sophisticated. I've never known the Russians to be gay friendly, anyway. At least not in any encouraging way. The Russian Baths do offer these weird skin rub services in the dry sauna. The customer is naked when receiving this service, but it's done in front of others and there's nothing sensual about it.

I had a number of massages there, but you have to be careful who you get. One Russian guy walked all over my back and nearly killed me. No one ever touched my erection directly. However, my younger friends who go there did talk about HEs, so I assumed the younger hotties had better luck. But both friends said none of the therapists would get fully naked. So maybe they have a house rule on how far they can go with customers. I haven't been there in awhile, so can't speak to recent.

I've been numerous times along with hot, sexy friends who go more often. I wouldn't exactly call it a dump, but she's 1970's old and could use a major cash infusion. It's an experience from another time period, and regulars seem to appreciate that worn character. They have a steady group of members that seem to keep the place going, but nobody is making a killing, at least not enough to update the interior. It would cost a fortune. I've been on co-ed days and men-only days. I'm sure cruising goes on there, but I've never seen any sex go on out in the open. I go mainly for massages and steam, but their steam rooms are too hot for me. I can't last more than 3 minutes. I find their cold pool freezing, and that's too extreme for me. The place is rough, and many people seem to like that.

In the scheme of things, some thumbs up with some mehs. Considering the information his ad lacks, that's not a vote for "let's test the opinions of others and see what talent the guy has got for $150." If I had a dollar for every time someone on the internet used the term "good looking," I'd be able to test run a lot of guys. We must all acknowledge thanks and gratitude for those who take one for the team. I'm always happy to try someone new and report back if the startup fee appears fair. However, why exactly this guy? Other than a few opinions, and we know what that is like on the internet, this ghost of a massage therapist does not seem to qualify for any attention. Even after 4 pages, I'm not the least bit curious or seduced into booking an appointment. To each his own.

4 pages deep? I am absolutely amazed that anyone would take a $$$ chance on a massage ad that featured two headless torso photos with no photo confirmation. IMO, the ad might as well offer no photos. You all must love to gamble on total mystery and have money to burn. What is it about these two photos that motivates anyone to open a wallet? There are plenty of talented massage therapists out there, especially in NYC, who not only show current confirmed photos of fantastic, fit bodies, but they also show their handsome faces. I don't understand why anyone from our community would be interested in throwing support to a guy who likes to play hide and seek. Is there some unknown thrill to this game? I can fully understand if a guy leads a double life and needs to remain anonymous. Even so, there are smart and clever ways to sell yourself to a community that understands these things. Two similar, headless torso photos is not the way to convince me. Words can tell a deeper story, but there is nothing in this ad that speaks to me and says "you gotta try me." Even with "6 years experience," the ad makes no mention of CMT or LMT. So what exactly is this guy selling? I don't get this, and I probably never will.

Too many crushes to count. When I fall for a guy, I try to stay loyal for as long as I can. There is a hindrance. The more you get to know about the masseur, the easier it is to fall out of love. That's the problem mixing fantasy with reality and all the good feelings that come with massage. In the end, I never met a massage therapist that I wanted to marry. So like most crushes, they're fleeting, and we move on to the next one.