adventurous old guy

For those of you in Chicago, XXXXX...Have seen him there twice now. I just joined a month ago because the gym I used to go to and the one at my officer were not really enforcing CDC guidelines. I'm impressed that this place actually does. Everyone wears a mask, many stations are not in service to signal the importance of distancing, and the staff are circulating and disinfecting IRT. Admin Note: Personal information removed.

I think advertising as a bottom is probably where his market is -- those of us who love to top a muscle bottom. But might be worth an inquiry if he's up to top. He does so occasionally on video. Just a hunch, no real intel here.

He's actually working out at the gym I go to here in Chicago. Saw him there yesterday. He was masked, but recognized him by the back tattoo. He's in great shape, and does look younger than 30.

Very like my experience, which was 3 years ago. Seems like his modus operandi is still the same. I agree that being an escort is probably hard. And the corollary is that guys who aren't able to deliver on what they think they can should maybe move on to a different business field.

There's been a lot of discussion here, quite mixed. Here's the most recent thread: https://m4m-forum.org/threads/theguysteven.154119/#post-1936844

Piling on to the salivation here. There's nothing sexier -- for me, at least -- than an "older" guy in great shape. Hope this works out for you!

New review of JimJim today at Daddy's: http://daddysreviews.com/cruise/newest Noticed that my review of him is no longer displayed, in fact there is a rather long gap in his reviews from November 2016 to today. My review wasn't bad, but I'm sure I shared the thought that one should not hire him as a bottom, because that was a major take-away from my experience. I know Daddy's platform has been revised and refined several times, with some reviews lost. With that said, this isn't the first time one of my reviews has gone missing. More likely to happen on RM, but I guess at Daddy's too.

I LOVE this piece. Thx so much for sharing!!! Particularly on this thread!!!

And remember its not just about Covid. I made the decision to retire in December pre-Covid after worrying for several months about rising risks of antibiotic resistant STDs coupled with the astounding -- at least to me -- devolution of safe sex practices by providers prompted by PreP. Just to be clear, I don't blame the providers and certainly don't mean to profile all providers as being unsafe. It was more my own temptation to relax caution -- let's face it, raw DOES feel better and IS hotter -- that made me do a hard stop as self-discipline. I miss this hobby though!!!

Totally agree with this. When facts like this are elusive, it means he shows one man these cards, another those, and a third different still. Makes one question everything.

Too funny. He told me he was Moroccan. He's a one-man Mediterranean tour! If it's Tuesday, this must be Cyprus!

Grazie, thought as much.

Ok, so when I reach out to retain services, I make it very clear that I'm a top looking for someone who will bottom. I ask if he's comfortable with that, what he wants to know about me, and what he likes to do or not do so I know his parameters. Depending on the vibe I get, I'll offer to send a face pic so he knows who he's meeting. On two or three occasions I've gotten messages before a scheduled meeting saying that he's not prepared to bottom for one reason or another. [I joke with someone on this board about the time he so completely wore out a man I was scheduled with that the escort called me and said he was just too sore to bottom for me -- you know who u r, lol]. I consider that kind of communication professional and I totally get it. In contrast, once I had a scheduled date -- two hours -- where the person didn't tell me until he arrived that he couldn't bottom because of something he ate earlier in the day. First, Ewwww. Second, I didn't believe him. I think he was a scammer who had no intention of offering the services he agreed to. The other appointment -- also two hours -- was with a guy who I think was just a naive newbie. Within a few minutes of arriving, he told me that though he really enjoyed being bottom, he had "a rule" not to do it on a first date. He wanted to use our two hours to get to know me, snuggle and kiss. This was in Vegas, where we were both visiting, so its not like a next date was going to happen right around the corner, He was super nice, so I tried to engage him in understanding my confusion hoping he would make an exception and break his rule. In the course of that conversation, it became clear that he was looking for a sugar daddy relationship and hoped we could go there. Not to be crass, but this guy was not that smart and just sort of clueless -- beautiful and sweet, and I bet used to getting by on those qualities without really thinking things through. When I cut that meeting short, I honestly felt like I was doing him a favor by giving him a reality check about escorting. Anyway, those are the nonperformance stories that I'd categorize as disrespectful and non-professional. Hope this elaboration helps.

Piling on to say I agree with almost all of the advice here, and underscore DTB's comment that nonperformance situations are tricky. Its an awkward conversation to have, and can lead to excuse, argument or other kinds of drama. There are anecdotal reports here about conversations of nonperformance even leading to threats, though I hope that's rare -- its not happened to me. What I have experienced twice is a person who showed up with no intention to perform. There are scammers, and for me that's a reason for just scheduling an hour the first time. If that happens, I'd say something neutral like "we don't seem to be connecting," end the meeting early, pay the hour but no tip, and show him the door.

2 great one time only experiences stand out for me. Arek from NY and Max Grand. Max because I had to sneak him into this stuffy DC club where I was staying, and he hadn't shared a face shot so I didn't know it was him until he showed up. So, there was a sort of naughty excitement to smuggling this hot guy in, and then the chemistry was great. Arek because he was just this big, beautiful, interesting man who was voracious in the sack. Tried to see him several more times before he moved on, but schedules never meshed.

And we think he'd do well as a bottom why? He advertises as a top. Anyone have experience with him flipping?

Two years ago in London, he and I overlapped by one day and I tried to hire him. He quoted me $600 USD, and when I asked him about time, his reply was along the lines of more than an hour, long enough to have a lot of fun, don't focus on that. And then he offered some thoughts about how it would go given that I had asked him to bottom. I won't be able to convey exactly how charming, professional and hot he made it sound, and it's a true regret that I couldn't make it work with my schedule during that one day of overlap.

LOL Can't remember who first shared with me, but it was someone here. Happy to pass along.?

Top of mind for me would be: Manuel Skye D.O. Daniel Montoya Shane Amari FitnessFreak Of those no longer in the saddle, Brad Patton would top the list. Was he ever available?

I need to do one more step to get it to work for me. Inserting that step in AZDR's algorithm below. Works for me on Safari now too, which it didn't for awhile. azdr0710 said: 1. use Google Chrome 2. go to https://hide.me/en/proxy 3. enter (copy/paste) the RM reviews page URL for the provider you're interested in in the "on the fly" white box -- Open the "More Options" field in the white box and make sure ALL 5 options are checked. 4. make sure the country is set, these days, to Germany (Netherlands doesn't seem to work much anymore) 5. click "go" 6. accept the RM "over 18" thing up to three or four times 7. scroll a bit down and the reviews that have text should be visible

Good for him! Don't begrudge him getting what the market will bear, indeed more power to him!

Interesting range of responses. I always liked being the last appointment of the day. For me, it was a way to relax and reward myself after a busy day. It mitigates the risk that the man I'm hiring is going to clock watch because he has another appt scheduled after me. Plus, I'm a hard-wired night person who gets a second wind of energy about 11 PM. I usually prompt this with a message like "10:30 is the earliest I can do, and later is better -- what's too late for you.?" Doesn't work for everyone, but definitely for some. Over the years, guys have told me that they prefer it because travel is easier. I've had DC based guys willing to travel to Baltimore later at night when they otherwise wouldn't because of traffic. Or LA guys willing to come to Orange County. Also, some guys have told me they like late nights because they can relax, or even that they feel more comfortable orgasming because its the end of their day too than they do for earlier appointments . The more interactive a guy is, the better I tip and I let that be known too with newbies, though I think it motivates the guys I see regularly too. The perfect scenario for me is a late 2 hour meeting starting with a glass of wine or bourbon and some catch up before hitting the sheets, As for the downside,I'm a top so getting a guy at the peak of his ability to piledrive is not something that matters to me. I'd say the biggest risk is last minute cancellations. Some earlier appointment gets extended or goes late, or the guy is just spent. That's happened too, but not often. Fun thread. Thx to the OP for teeing this up lol.

And apologies for diverting this thread from escorts in NY to public health in Chicago. Was riffing, will stand down now. width=384pxhttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/wAK9Wcp92Ss/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]

Well, my poll is informal, and no doubt subjective. But what I would classify as a young person is someone who looks younger than 30. I'm not stopping people to ask, so yes this is based on perceptions and biased no doubt by the official data here that shows rapid growth in new test positive cases in the 29 and under age group. As for your point about sowing goodwill, it's certainly not my intent to profile. I abhor the divisiveness in our country now when we all have to be pulling together. Back to our Chicago Mayor, though she scolds and threatens she does it in a way that conveys we're all in this together and we all must do our part. Love that. And as an aside, I just did my poll running errands. 42 people I crossed paths with today in the River North neighborhood were wearing masks, and only 13 were not. Big difference from yesterday's count. A small sample yes, but -- call me Pollyanna -- I want to think its the leadership message getting through.

I love Mayor Lightfoot's attitude. She channels an effective combo of no-nonsense parent, former prosecutor and (for those of us raised Catholic) that nun from grade school who always made you think you were going to go to hell if you misbehaved, lol. When I go out, I count the number of people wearing masks. Its been around 50/50 in my neighborhood for weeks, with younger people much more likely to be the ones without. But when the Mayor scolds and threatens as she did yesterday, there's usually an uptick. That's leadership. ?