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Seems like your two problems are 1) clients, and, 2) places to meet clients.

And don't even get me started on Article IX Section 2.17 @VictorPowers

And don't even get me started on Article IX Section 2.17 @VictorPowers

onr point I haven’t mentioned is timing in booking. Your $296 hotel would likely be $130-150 if you purchase it far enough

Ah good read indeed! Did you see 2018’s revision?

I think all of this is valid @Mocha, but you have to extend the same flexibility to your clients too. You say you're aware that your last minute planning brings uncertainty, yet you complain about lack of confirmations, which in itself is a paradox. If you don't plan ahead you don't allow your clients to do so either.
 
As far as I'm concerned, if an appointment was never confirmed it was never scheduled. A few or many text exchanges do not a confirmation make. You said that you had to miss some appointments due to unforeseen circumstances, which to me is all understandable. Shit happens. However, from all your posts that I've read, I feel the one part that you're missing is that shit happens to EVERYONE, not just to you.
 
Please read the above words as if they were written by a client, and see how they would make you feel or react? Would you understand or condemn their excuses or explanations?
 
Hopefully this can help you alter your perception a bit and lessen the overall frustration with your business.

I personally think it's a beautiful and poingnat post @azdr0710 ; however, and not to be too picky:

That is not a full sentence.

I personally think it's a beautiful and poingnat post @azdr0710 ; however, and not to be too picky:

That is not a full sentence.

Meryl Streep has been pretty amazing. I don't know if those are her natural teeth or if they gave her something to give her a slight overbite. It gives her a slightly evil, conniving edge. Nicole Kidman has been great also. I have never really liked her as an actress. I am not sure why. However, the last few years I have begun to see how really good she is.

It was really last minute and he was very accommodating. Being last minute I really didn't expect much but the treatment I got was simply out of this world. Definitely knocked my socks off and a whole lot of other things.

he bailed the first time and again the second time....also know he did this to another forum member...….big X in my book

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gee....I guess the only explanation is that he has never ever met any client....at all!
 

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

I strongly disagree with this. I don't know or can't remember what he went to jail for, but if it was for assaulting or robbing a client it should be mentioned here. I'm a strong believer in second chances and that people can change. However if there's violence in the past at least one can go into an experience with him being aware of that fact. If Derek is truly reformed I hope he is upfront about his past mistakes. I think not mentioning it here is a wrong way to go about it. He's turned a new leaf and with his current and future actions he can rebuild his reputation and turn his past truly into... well just the past.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

@Mocha It does seem that you are very unhappy and frustrated with this business but as @maninsoma wisely stated this might be a wrong way to go about it. You seem to be confusing inquires with confirmed bookings. Expecting that every text will result in a booking is setting yourself up for a failure. Think about how many times you went into a store and ended up not buying anything. You probably even tried a few or a plethora of shirts on and still left empty handed. I know I had, in spite of having every intention of buying something. And to clarify I'm not saying that clients should try you and stiff you at the end, but rather that the time a sales person spends in a store with a customer is somewhat equivalent to the time you might spend texting with someone. I think politeness and positive attitude are the key, but not a guarantee, for success.
 
I can only speak from my point of view but when I send a text the only thing that means is that I'm interested and have an intention of booking an appointment. I'm not for endless texting, but I do need to see how I vibe with the guy. My actions or willingness to book at that point are entirely dependent on his responses. If I sense that he's too pushy, not listening or not responding to a question but rather pushing his agenda I will politely thank him for his time and move on. And again I'm not for endless texting, but a 5-10 minute text exchange needs to happen for both of us to figure out if we're compatible.
 
I get a feeling that what pisses you off the most is the lack of explanation to why they stop texting you. I blame this on various apps, and the common saying "no response is a response". It's quite rude. However this happens on both ends of the equation. There have been numerous times that my initial inquires have been unanswered. There have been times when after a few text exchanges the guy stopped responding. Maybe he was unavailable at the time I suggested. Maybe he wasn't into one of my requests. Maybe he got another booking. Whatever his "maybe" may be I simply don't and won't ever know and I have to take it as a "no response is a response", no matter how much I dislike and disagree with that phrase. I know it's tough and as this is your business you probably get this a lot more than us clients, and when your livelihood depends on it, it's that much more frustrating. However it comes with the territory. Naming names and exposing contacts won't make it stop. The only thing it might certainly do is alienate the clients who might have an actual intent of hiring you.

That seems to be his old number. With James' permission here is his current number: 647-797-4610