Chris Eisenhower

What is the ideal initial message for an interested client to send a provider? I recently texted someone and got no response. I'm not sure if my message fell through the cracks or lacked appeal.

I check out profiles to find a match. I then send a text indicating what I seek (top) and offer a brief description of myself (neg/prep/slim). Sometimes I ask about rate and location and sometimes I wait until I get a response. Is such a communication helpful or off-putting for the recipient?

Suggestions welcome!

There is no ideal initial text other than: "Hi, my name is ____ and I wanted to reach out to you to let you know I'll be in your city on ______ date if you're going to be available. If so, I'll send you a detailed email shortly to set something up. Thanks!" Anyone who tried to set up a meeting via text or using text-type abbreviations got ignored.

Sorry in advance should this be repeated:

 

How long have you escorted?

I took extended breaks from escorting, but did it off/on for about 11 years total.

I’m a masseur but since there is no masseur sections, I’m going to post here since there are escorts have much very similar lifestyles. I went on hiatus from massage once Covid hit. I massage on the side, I have a full time career job, but am I the only one that is on hiatus that feels a void from not doing being to take their clients. I miss my business and It has almost nothing to do with money because my full time career job pays me well (although I do miss the extra money A LOT, but I miss MY business, my sessions, experiences with clients, being in complete control of my business. With things being shut down in LA its tough to find things to fill that void. Are any of you who are on hiatus feeling similar? If so, what are you doing to manage those feelings?

I cannot even imagine. When I was in DC, I didn't have time to make friends outside of escorting because I was gone for long periods at a time. I also felt like my escorting crowd understood what quickly became a really important part of my life and I didn't have to explain anything or feel judged.

For those of you who travel to different cities at a time, do you charge a higher fee to compensate for your hotel and travel costs?

Tried it and didn't work for me. I only traveled with an established invite and didn't fool with the day-earlier, day-later to see other clients. People are flaky and I totally get why many escorts get pissed at clients who cancel at the last minute for some BS (no, your goddamn grandmother did not die so don't even try it and even if she did you should have planned for a different time).

I have not read through all the responses, but you'd think escort sites would take time to focus group with escorts over what tech works and what doesn't before spending the time/money to develop it. I would never use a messenger app as a mode of communication with a client other than a brief introduction or if the client is established and wanted to check availability. If you can text, you can call.

Would love some perspective here —

 

Last night, I was traveling and hired a guy who had several good reviews on RM. He came over and we immediately got down to business. And though I tried to control the flow, his pace of fun prevailed and within twenty minutes he got out of bed and was ready to get dressed again. I told him he didn’t have to go and he came back to bed, laid there for another 10 minutes or so and then left. He was a really nice guy, sweet, but because he was so eager to get out of there, I felt like his heart wasn’t really in it.

 

This morning, I log onto RM and leave a middling review, writing nice things about him in the comments, but saying I wouldn’t rehire. A couple hours later, I get a text from him asking if I left that review and why I’d thought that because he thought we’d had a nice time. I told him I was discouraged by how quickly he wanted to leave. (In total, he was in my hotel room for probably less than 35 minutes.) He explained most of his clients want him gone after climax, so he assumed I was that way. (I pointed out that I asked him to come back to bed and that should be proof I didn’t want him to leave, but that piece got lost.)

 

He then offered to make it up to me if I could come see him this afternoon. We went back and forth a bit because I wasn’t really sure it was worth my time. Then I had a weird feeling about the exchange because in my mind, “let me make it up to you” implied fault and he was gonna try and fix it as good customer service. However, after a couple more texts, I realized he wanted me to come over for a second session and expected me to pay his going rate. I told him I wasn’t interested; he then offered to do it for half. At that point, I told him I was disappointed in the previous night’s experience and I had no desire to pay more for another session that could possibly turn out exactly like the first. That was the end of it.

 

The further I’ve gotten away from this, the more I feel like the guy was trying to use me. Am I wrong to be miffed that he offered to make it up to me, but expected me to pay for that “apology?” It’s possible I’m blowing this way out of proportion, but would love an expert’s POV.

You got screwed. Unless you want someone to be "in charge," you should be in charge and your escort will respect that you are in charge. Neither side likes a ticking clock, but c'mon. His version of customer service is like when you leave a shitty review for a hotel and instead of doing anything meaningful about it the manager posts "well we hope you'll give us a second chance the next time you're in town." Over time, the mediocre review will cost him thousands of dollars in appointments, because if I know one thing that's true about escorting: clients read reviews and hire based off them.

So I don't have any experience on the subject and I definitely need some words of wisdom here.

 

 

What exactly is an "overnight" session?

Does it means that the escort will come over and we'll spend the entire night doing... what? I know I sound very stupid asking this but I'm honestly not sure.

I'm currently in touch with this guy who I want to hire, and he suggested the "overnight" option...

Are we suppose to have some fun but he will eventually expect some "off time" to get some rest?! I know I sound ridiculous...

The way I imagine it is that he comes over, say 11 pm, and we will spend the entire night doing what "I want" or rather "what I hired him to do". The in the morning he will leave.

Is this correct?

 

I honestly feel kind of embarrassed asking you guys this... and I think I've rambled on enough.

 

Thanks in advance

I = me/other typical escort

Q: What exactly is an "overnight" session?

A: We meet at some point in the evening, usually have dinner and then it's off to the races. I spend the night and then in the morning after some interaction we shed tears and bid our fond farewells until next time.

Q: We'll spend the entire night doing... what?

A: It won't be having sex, if that's what you're asking. You wouldn't want that, and I can't do that (and most escorts can't either), so imagine having a guest over for 12 hours and what you might do to fill the time.

Q: I'm currently in touch with this guy who I want to hire, and he suggested the "overnight" option...

A: Imagine 12 hours of fun with a friend, because you guys know things about each other, share things in common, communicate well, and so on. Now imagine 12 hours of awkward silence punctuated with brief bursts of single-word answers to your questions, followed by however long you'll be filled with regret for paying for that 12 hours. Now imagine talking on the phone for 15-30 minutes getting to know someone to see if A or B is more likely (which should have already given you insight into how your first question should be answered).

Q: Are we suppose to have some fun but he will eventually expect some "off time" to get some rest?!

A: It depends on how you define "off time." When I did an overnight with a client, the only off-time I had was being asleep because I was a guest. A guest for 12 hours doesn't get "off-time," and I didn't want off-time. I agreed to do an overnight because they seemed fun. If you're defining "off-time" as a break from a particular activity, that doesn't mean your escort should go trot his ass into another room to answer emails or phone calls or have some "me" time. You guys can talk, laugh, eat something, watch tv, etc.

Q: ...say 11 pm

A: This is too late in the evening to get started for an overnight.

Q: ...say 11 pm, and we will spend the entire night doing what "I want" or rather "what I hired him to do"

A: In my opinion, you don't want an overnight as much as you want an extended late-night session for 3-4 hours. If an escort is trying to convince you to hire them for an overnight that starts at 11pm, here's what will happen.

11:30 pm

You: Well that was amazing!

Escort: Yes, it was. I'm sleepy. Good night!

There are a gazillion threads on this forum and just as many opinions on what an overnight is, and what an overnight should be. IMHO, sex is one component but not the only one. You'd be amazed at how quickly you can get bored with someone you don't know in less than 90 minutes.

ANNNNNNDDDDD now it's time to play "Chris Eisenhower Answers Your Most Pressing Questions and Then Disappears For A While!"

Because I'm sick of watching the news. So...

Youngest: 19 (at least I hope he was 19)

Oldest: 80+

Younger (pro): strokes my inner daddy ego side.

Younger (con): completely disinterested in the BFE

Older (pro): 99.5% respectful, courteous, interesting, engaged, generous, experienced, hot in bed ?

Older (con): all of my truly bad (and I do mean BAD) experiences were made up of that remaining .5%

I have to say that I'm five years out of the biz and still regard it as one of the best experiences of my life. I truly had an awesome time and met some wonderful people and sowed the absolute fuck out of my oats. It's nice to be missed, and I felt like what I did was appreciated and I still got to have an experience on my terms.

And I miss Ace, Dane, Nate and those Palm Springs parties. That shit was fun.

I know escorts tend to be well groomed. I'm stuck near Dupont Circle for awhile and I need a good clipper haircut. I have a car so I can travel. I may have to wait until barbers and salons re-open, but I'm willing to visit someone's home, if possible. I'm an older guy with a full head of grey hair, with some receding in the front. I wear my hair buzzed short. I can go to a barber or a beauty salon, and I'd like to pay no more than $120. If an escort (or client) can recommend someone talented, please PM with a name. Thank you.

There's a barber shop with a primarily black clientele in Alexandria that I absolutely loved—Ultimate Styles Barbershop at 1308 Mt. Vernon. There would literally be people waiting outside on the sidewalk—and almost every client they saw wanted a clipper/fade-style cut. Be sure to request the owner or his son, and be prepared to wait for a chair and your actual haircut. They do not do a rush job, and it might have cost $30.

I told Him what I thought was best to include. https://rent.men/Fillet

(I haven't looked at the profile yet)

"Him" like Jesus-Him?

(I just looked at the profile)

Hmmm. There's a bazillion profiles on this site and his is three words long. I have to wonder how much serious thought he's given this whole idea.

Wow! I was going to include Chris Eisenhower in this list of ghosts, but he’s here! I had a wonderful evening and dinner with Chris in PS prior to a Forum weekend several years ago. He went well above and beyond. Chris, what are you doing?

Not Chris...

I mentioned this in another forum topic relatively recently.... but he’s doing well for himself and is happy in his current endeavors.

 

He pops up on the forum once in a blue moon, but I don’t think he’ll post as often as he once did.

Well I was doing quite well at the career I transitioned into (which escorting quite prepared me for), but the covid has slowed things down. So right now I'm trying to do some creative writing and enjoying the weather.

Dane went to school and is hopefully done or almost done by now. Ethan got married sometime last year, I think.

I probably do.

Victor—I sent you a PM with some information about this person.

I probably do.

Read Bailey's review. He's listed as a Philadelphia escort, with two review both horrific. The most recent review involves stealing for a client's wallet.

Yeah I read that and was like: WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Between that and the guy with the wallet... I mean, seriously?

Why didn't you tell me you were this smart? I would have slept with you after Trio, and possibly Tropicale as well.

Is it customary for the rider to tip the uber driver?

It's automatic. You get in and get out.

I use UBER on a daily basis. I have a personal account and also have clients who have ordered Uber for me.

 

To address OP's question: the only personal information that is shared is your first name. If you want to order Uber for an escort, he would need that information when gets in the car. The driver has no access to your last name or credit card details.

My last Über driver called the client's wife and I had to pretend to be "Jennifer," the administrative assistant.

Kidding.

I don't use uber. I don't feel safe getting into a car with someone who is unregulated, possibly uninsured etc. I'll keep my business with the pros.

Apart from one driver who just didn't show up, I've never had a problem with Über and use it a lot when traveling. As far as being "safe," DC cabbies appear to be some of the worst, most unsafe drivers on the road.

I would marry Casey Donovan. And fuck the shit out of Jon King. Or Connor Habib.

Oh and there's the redhead guy who went from being a twink to a little daddy bear who has a radio talkshow or something. I believe he lives in New York. Will Clark?

And of course on Wednesdays, there is Jake Mitchell and Allen Silver. While my husband Casey was at work.

WAKE UP! We're at the... birthday party.

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The "residence" cabin is to make its debut on the Heathrow to Abu Dhabi route. Less than 7 hours flying for $20,000 one way, but that does appear to be for 2 people....

These airlines keep trying to shove more and more people into a smaller space.