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I am going to help you with this. Reach out to a provider you have had a good time with before and send this: "Hello again. I really enjoyed our session last time, and I wanted to ask about a specific scenario to see if it is something you could help me organize. I would love an erotic massage, and I would like to see it build from there, with elements of surprise added in. I would like a hood being placed over my head (the masseur says it will help eliminate outside distractions and further relax me) my legs spread and my ankles bond to the corners of the table and headphones placed on me playing erotic trance/hypno tape. And while I am in this situation you can then introduce another set of hands into the mix during the session (another element of surprise). I understand both providers need to be paid each- is this something you would be comfortable doing? I have wanted to ask for a while but I have been worried that you would think I am either weird (for lack of a better word) and trying to engage in sexting." Send this and after you get a reply - discuss logistics ONLY. (ie, rate, time, place) I would encourage you to reach out to a provider you had a good time with before because they already know you and know that you are a legit client. ENJOY! its a sexy fantasy.

Weekend bookings are true BFE experiences. I agree with what other posters have said - in these situations it's better to collaborate with the provider and give them some input into would make the time enjoyable for them also. This will make them put more effort in to as it makes it an easier job. For eg. if you want to go for dinner - ask the provider what cuisines they enjoy most. you mentioned you are in NYC - if you want to see a broadway show, ask him if there are any shows that he would love to see. As always - instead of just asking people here: ask the provider straight up.

I don't know if you are dense, or I am not being clear. 1. I believe providers, like anyone in any industry, can act inappropriately. you know we are people too right? 2. I don't believe people give up their phones to have these people leave reviews. Sorry - I just don't. 3. and IF it has happened, I don't believe that they don't then take these reviews down. Him saying 'oh but he knows where I live' is also BS. The provider won't get a notification the review is gone. just block his profile and be done with it. Just because someone says it happened, doesn't mean it is gospel. and here is the real gag: YOU ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW EITHER. you chose to believe it, I don't. And guess what - that is OK.

It's YOUR job to make it sexy, not for the clients to make it sexy for you. Getting into the mind frame to make it sexy is what separates the men from the boys. This is your choice. One of the joys for me about sex work is that I get to set my schedule. This has to be balanced with saying No to clients who want to see me at 2am. You can set out 'open hours' like any other service does - we cannot be available 24hrs a day 7 days a week. We all need to make the choice at times - would we prefer see the client, or would we prefer 'getting things done'? But if you want to make money, and you want to be busy, you must be flexible and have an understanding that YOUR schedule needs flexibility to ensure you can get as many bookings as possible. Welcome back to the forum - yes you are. But the way you have been writing in this new profile is a sign that you are doing better with these challenges. It's true that there are a lot of guys out there that use Rentmen profiles to jerk off to and use us as 'interactive porn'. Some of the clients here on this site for eg, rate, reach out, comment about us, look up and critique our profiles when they have not hired for YEARS and have no intention in doing so. Lots of people will contact you with no intention to meet up and get off on just the thought of it. But there are also a lot of people who reach out with intention but also trepidation, and if your sales and marketing skills or bedside manner is not accommodating enough- you wont land the sale. It's a tough balance to weigh up being open enough for these people and closed enough for the tire kickers who are jerking us around to not drain you.

I'm not wrong. I just don't believe it. Nothing said here has changed my mind on that. No one here was with SavantSav at the time this 'happened', and so no one can actually 'corroborate' what transpired. I have arrived at group bookings where other providers have been high or under performed. I have been in situations where I was shocked by the behavior of the other providers in all manner of ways (hygiene, drug use, tardiness, politeness, outdated pics, poor effort). I have trusted regulars who have told me about providers who have been aggressive. I am certain that is true that provides can behave in these ways, and I am certain he has had bad encounters. I just don't believe that the initial experience he had with provider resulting in a 5star review was a bad one. Sorry. *Shrug* But it's not just my experience that tells me otherwise, it's also Rentmen's (admittedly deeply flawed) review policies. So once again - if there was a situation where someone DEMANDED you give up your phone to them (I don't believe this happened, but lets go with it) IF that was true - you can simply have the review removed by contacting Rentmen. They remove reviews at the posters request very quickly. So it is way more likely that the review is still up because it was genuine, and now something has happened since the encounter and the reviewer has sour grapes/ the relationship has soured. This might surprise you - but people often come on here a tell half lies or complete BS in order to get sympathy and pats on the back- it makes them feel better about themselves I guess I don't know the motive. They put down providers here on the DAILY. Not sure what else to say my dude. Sorry but thats how I see it.

don't ask, don't get.

This is sound advice! The OP should look for providers he likes, (well reviewed both here and on RentMen) reach out and disclose your age! I think the advice about not going below a certain age is great as well - you are going to have a much better experience with a provider in his 30s or 40s than you would a 21 year old child. Speaking as a provider: we don't care as long as you give us some heads up. Sometimes it requires some mental preparation to do this job and provide a service allows us to go the extra mile.

Just ask what you want. I guarantee we have heard it or something similar. My most wild one was someone asking me to kill them. obviously I didn't do that.

don't hire guys who PnP - thats a risk you get when you play with drugs. and delete the reviews. Hope that helps.

Im not saying THAT part didn't happen - what I don't believe is the encounter that lead to the 5 star review was bad. More likely it was good, and thus the review, but afterwards sour grapes appeared - client stated messaging casually with out making bookings, client got jealous or feelings hurt, provider turned down a second appointment, client started asking for discounts 'since we both had such a good time', client starting texting asking for more pics... "I only left a review because they asked me to and stood there and watched me" yeah right. as if you woudl not say "Sure I will do it later tonight, thanks for coming over, bye" you can also just as easily ask Rentmen to take down positive reviews they do it in a flash. so I call bullshit on that story. I will even grant you that maybe subsequent appointments were not as stellar as the first - but no one, NO ONE hands over their phone to someone and lets someone else publish something from their phone, especially if it was someone they did not have a good time with. When was the last time you handled over your phone and just let someone send messages with it without your approval? It doesn't make sense. "I only left a review because they asked me to and stood there and watched me" yeah right. as if you would not say "Sure I will do it later tonight, thanks for coming over, bye" you can also just as easily ask Rentmen to take down positive reviews they do it in a flash. so I call bullshit on that story.

"I'll take things that never happened for 500 Alex."

I occasionally reach out to providers who have been left a review by a client and just ask for a heads up with three simple questions - what was he like, what does he like, would you see them again? A history of reviews is certainly a great indicator that the client is legit. I don't like when the client has hundreds of them though - it shows me that this client will be a one and done no matter how well I perform. I call them "tally clients" they just be racking up a tally on the bed posts and getting someone new every time - it also creates a lot of pressure. Perform well and get a review, but also be prepared to be compared to ALL the other really hot guys that have fucked them, knowing that you are being 'rated'. I guess is our version of being 'clock watched'. Conversely, bad indicator is when they have left multiple reviews for guys and more than one or two of these reviews is negative, be it here or on rentmen. It could be that they are high maintenance client, or a client that has hygiene issues that they are unaware of making the providers struggle to perform.

Nope. Only losers who are deliberately wasting sex workers time by ghosting day of appointments, doing long sex chats back and forth and not hiring, people who think its cool to haggle, people who cancel last minute, clients who are unhygienic or have other things around safety that other sex workers need to know. Congrats on the clean slate, you must be one of the good ones.

you asked a question, I gave you the answer. and offering to provide a call? so geneouros of you! (note the sarcasm) i ts not helpful of you to 'offer' to take up more of the providers time unpaid so you can jerk off on the phone and not follow through with the appointment anyway.

What are you into? is my favorite one. 😂 100% this. how many mr.numebr reviews do you have?

a way to show provider you are legit is to - send a small deposit. (amazon gift card is a easy way to send without leaving a trail), arranging for uber for our visit if you are getting an outcall, or having a premium rentmen account. Hope this helps. We need more good guys.

perhaps because the VAST majority of people that contact has have no intention of hiring, and then the small percentage that actually do have intention have not read our adds properly and ask questions like 'can you host?' when the first line of our add said "I can not host" or some such nonsense.

never send a deposit to a provider that has no reviews.

Everyone hires for different reasons.

Just enjoy the fantasy. Play into it. It is probably turning him on that you believe he is straight, as much as it was for you being with a straight guy.

Some guys put their travel dates away from their regular location when they are traveling so people know they are NOT in town. Some guys when they are traveling are visiting family, can still see clients but only have limited availability. Some people just don't know what the scheduled is going to be like on a trip months in advance and don't want to commit until they are sure they can provide. It can be a whole host of reasons without jumping to 'he is lying and he never wants to see me again'.

@Braziliancutee I don't know that there is a 'best' city for bottoms, but my advice is stick to the bigger cities where you have a bigger market - LA, San Francisco, San Diego, Chicago, NYC, Philly, DC.

When I first started I would set the alarm on my iPhone for one hour with the ring tone, not the alarm sound. My phone would always be on silent so no calls you disturb but then when the hour was up my phone "rang" and I would get up, apologize for the interruption and turn it off as if I was not answering a call and say 'oh wow look at that its been an hour". I also had a trusted friend that I told I was doing this, and I would call them as the session started, and they would be waiting for a call as the session ended to confirm my safety. Now I have more experience at judging what an hour is, I don't need to do that but also it goes off body language - some clients just want you out of there as soon as they cum, some like to stay and chat, some like to push it and be cheeky and extend it and get you to stay for much longer. If someone is giving me the vibe that they have cum and they want me out, I will leave early. Conversely, sometimes I chat/cuddle snuggle and go over - it all depends on the time of the day/evening, how comfortable the client has made me feel, if I am enjoying myself, if I want to see the client again - there is a whole myriad of reasons why I may stay a little over or leave a little early - but the main one is YOU and how YOU are behaving.

Correct.

my advice would be: you are going to be taken advantage of with this, set up unrealistic expectations with clients for the rest of us, and it is not going to get you better or more clients. Don't do it. x