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This is not good for clients because of the implicit put-down that upsell amounts in the $100 range make us “cheapie”. 

+1 to Namwa. I used them back in May and had an amazing experience. Can’t wait to go back. 🙂

Reporting back from a 2nd trip. Called ahead and asked for Peter. Booked 90 minutes. 
First thing I noticed was that the bed sheets hanging from the ceiling have been replaced with real curtains and I thought, "that's a win!"
Host escorted me to the back, and I had a real room. No door, but a big improvement from last time. First guy walked in -not Peter, but it felt fine to start.   
45 minutes into it, someone started WRECKING my back. It was definitely a different person than whoever started. 
By the time I flipped over, it was certainly a different person than I started with, with different hands than whoever messed up my back.
Woke up sore the next day. 
Im happy that whoever is managing is working on improving the space, but this is such a weird way to run a spa. 


 
 
 

 
 

Went here a few weeks ago and had a similar experience. I did 60 minutes and had no less than 3 masseurs, one of whom I'm sure was a woman. You do get to request male/female masseurs, but they're passing you off while you're facing down so...it's whatever. I didn't notice a smell, it was clean enough despite being overall dingey. If you can get passed all that, the massage itself was pretty decent, and it's a win that I have a spot on the UES. I'm hoping that it improves over time. 

Update on here.  Peter isn’t really working there anymore but I think he will come if you are an old regular. If you want a good massage, ask for Jack. He’s older and not cute but does a great job. Other guys have not been good 

I'll note I went to SoJo a few months ago which is very much a legitimate establishment. Amazing scrub by a very talented guy who told me to take a cold shower immediately after my time was up. Oops!
 

I'll note I went to SoJo a few months ago which is very much a legitimate establishment. Amazing scrub by a very talented guy who told me to take a cold shower immediately after my time was up. Oops!
 

Spa itself is pretty good. Male masseur is as average as they come in appearance. But he knows that men like to be teased. Don’t expect a HE (from him). 

Yes, but do they offer happy endings? I do tip my landscaper. Plumbers, lawyers and Dentists all charge more than my massage therapist, a lot more.
I'm a little sad that so many guys on here want to pay no more than the going rate for standard therapeutic massage but expect the masseur to be incredibly hot, naked and to have sex with them all the while stroking their fragile egos. You want more than a "standard legit" massage? You should be willing to say thank you appropriately. If you can't afford the sexiest best masseurs who put out every time? Get a better job or make do with what you can afford. Do you need to tip? No, but don't expect the same level of service as the guys who do will get either. 

OK, remember that self employed masseurs are just that, self employed. No sick pay, no vacation pay, no retirement contributions, no free health insurance, don't get paid when the weather is bad or the economy tanks or the pandemic hits... they pay for their own advertising, do their own taxes, keep their own books, buy their own materials, do tons of laundry, pay for their spaces, computers, cell phones... the lists goes on. Do you need to tip? No. Do you really think they make $500 a day every day? No, they don't. I tip at least 20% for real therapeutic massage or and really good erotic massage. If I get both I tip 40%. 

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Bumping this, have been looking for a really good recommendation for scrub since Living Fresh closed 

I'll note I went to SoJo a few months ago which is very much a legitimate establishment. Amazing scrub by a very talented guy who told me to take a cold shower immediately after my time was up. Oops!
 

Does anyone have a reco for a good table scrub? I usually go to Chelsea MS for a decent one but they only have 1-2 people on staff who are willing to. 

This has gotten ridiculous.

Chuck at Paris Spa is a very professional masseuse. I know him for some time and his massages are consistently good and well worth a visit. His deep tissue massage is very energetic, your body feels the energy, the whole body relaxes and relieves fatigue. I'll make another appointment with Chuck
New construction at the spa offers enhanced privacy. I recommend Chuck and Paris spa 

Pretty sure he was making a joke.

Be warned: I just visited here, requested Peter by phone in advance, and was then massaged by at least three different people, including the individual tasked with answering the phone, which they did while they were massaging me. They exploited the silence of their curtains-for-doors to make the four hand-offs appear seamless. Honestly, it wouldn’t have been nearly as awkward if each hand-off wasn’t so comically orchestrated to be undetectable! Needless to say, the skills and vibes of each were vastly different, which killed any opportunity for relaxation. Apart from that, the odor of the carpet is truly vile. (Like old shoes that have been soaked in pond water and then dried on a radiator). At any rate, the masseur who I presume was Peter was indeed very good, and I urge anyone who knows him to encourage him to do outcalls instead of working in that dirty basement and shorting paying customers of his skill.