Johnrom

Not completely on subject but as a wiseman recently told me by PM when it comes to some personal "stories":
There is more than one fantasist here with stories that aren't even remotely believable.
Back to subject: Not all providers always have good days or have chemistry with all clients, besides some folks are just hard to please or see the glass half empty.

You’ve probably seen comments here like ”Your mileage may vary.”. There’s a lot of truth in that.  Different people often have different experiences with the same provider.  Those clients aren’t necessarily lying if they write glowing comments about someone that you weren’t impressed by.  

Thank you! This is a great take with a lot to think about. I, myself, want my frustration/disappointment, etc  to be acknowledged before I move into problem solving with the other party and that's something I didn't really think about in this case. Where I've left things is that we're going to meet up in a week and I've asked him to think about what it is he needs to tell me and what would make him feel better and to tell me that when we meet.  Totally agree that I'm not going to get wrapped up in emotional situation. That's not what I'm in this for. I am sorry he feels bad but I really don't feel guilty about it. I thinking this either comes down to an expectation mismatch (which can be fixable) or a "caught feelings" situation (which is not).

I think you should definitely get the engagement ring back from him. lol
But joking aside, it sounds like he needs space.  Could it be that his feelings for you went deeper than a provider-client relationship?  You've offered to increase his massage fee, and I don't think there's anything more that you can do.   It's good to let him know that you didn't realize you were getting a discount, and how much you appreciate that, but that you are also more than happy to be paying his regular fee because you appreciate him and his service so much.  I wouldn't ask what more you can do, but rather, let him know you are sorry for disappointing him, that you never realized he would be disappointed, and that you would like him to contact you when he knows he'd like to move forward with future visits.  Just a thought, for what it's worth.

Seems like a job for couples therapy. Hah 
Jokes aside. I cant really speak for him but, It does seem like he is hurt by one of the two, the money or that you were seeing someone else.
 

If you were paying him what he asked for, why would he be disappointed?
If you were to pay a lower fee to another provider, will he then lower his fee?
Tell him to grow up or find another client.

I'm curious whether anyone else has experienced this.
I just had a difficult text convo with one of my regulars who, after seeing a review I made about another provider in our area to whom I paid more than I've paid him, is upset with me.
I've offered to pay him more per session, want him to feel valued, appreciated and respected (which I totally feel about him) and just want him to tell me what he wants me to do.  He says he doesn't know, he just keeps saying he disappointed with me.

Has anyone dealt with this? If so, what did you do?  Any advice would be helpful.
 

As a client, it’s when you are so much of their income that they build their schedule around yours.
That’s not healthy for either 

I’ve asked a few of my providers this question and my favorite response was, “after 2 visits “. Sometimes the interval is > a year but they still remembered me and have treated me like an old friend. I think it’s more of a feeling that exists between client and provider than a minimum set requirement. 

It’s really mostly a time/logistics issue, but I will absolutely prioritize getting laid in the new year 😈 

An oldie but goodie! I wonder if this guy ever found out that his pic has been used to make countless memes and make gay men lust after him? 😄

Yes.
You didnt think this through with enough room for error on travel time. You couldn't accommodate a small 30 minute change, in schedule...well then the disappointment was a product of your failure to plan properly, not his need to adjust for family obligations. 

Dude … here’s what I’m thinking. Your feelings are your feelings. I think anyone would be annoyed. If I read correctly you said he was visiting his family which is not too far from your location. Family can add an extra layer of complexity. He’s going to be 30 mins late, which, due to your travel situation, would shave 30 mins off your scheduled session. Unfortunately, you didn’t leave a lot of room for error. In my 61 years it has been my experience that if you don’t leave room for error, that is a set up for disappointment. I’d say enjoy the shortened session, get what’s yours, wish him a happy new year, then head home. Yeah, the room cost extra so chalk it up to an expensive lesson learned. Trite but true - no good deed goes unpunished. I’ve had a similar situation - more than once. (I am a slow learner.) Shake it off and move on. And if I have misunderstood the scenario, please correct me. Good night. 

He’s a great guy.  Solid thorough massage . Highly recommend.  Have seen him a few times. He has also gotten very fit and athletic the last two years.  Don’t miss a chance to experience him in Nashville or when he travels.  

It is a nice idea to hire someone for an hour just to meet.  For me though, I would hire for an hour, talk for 30 minutes and if there is no connection, call it a day and if there was a connection, I would pin him up against a wall and ravage him for 30 minutes.  

Yes. I see this a lot in NYC. There are lots of younger guys who have this approach. 
OTOH, there is a really great masseur/escort who I saw the other day. Previously, I'd hired him as an escort but he is an LMT. He's a top as an escort so hiring him with my husband was not entirely compatible. But he's a great guy, so I was looking for a massage and I reached out. He has his prices listed very clearly. When I arrived, we discussed the massage. He said for an erotic massage, nudity, mutual touch was on the menu but if I wanted oral, etc, he "expected a nice tip." That was very reasonable to me. The massage was great and he did get a nice tip. But it was not "full service." 

Yes, sometimes the masseur trips and the entire penis goes in accidentally.  It's happened to me a few hundred times.

It seems like it requires a lot of time and energy to keep locating and reviving this gabrielgarv thread every few months just to warn others, even with AI assistance. This board is invaluable for describing our experiences, both good and bad. I have relied on it so much. But with this provider and a lot of you, it seems like a personal vendetta. Only you know why I guess.  And I'm not him, so don't go there.  But I have seen him around 10 times over the last few years, which means I enjoy him as a person in addition to his massage. So forgive me for chiming in again but as the British say, seeing things like this just gets my back up.

I don't like it as I still think of myself as young, I'm 39. (I know you can be a daddy and still feel young) and I don't look like the typical "daddy" type you'd see in porn.

I don't mind being called daddy, baby, sir, bro,... even unc (as in uncle). However, one of my regulars, during a session started calling me master. I got turned off real quick and told him not to call me that ever again. 😋 It gave me the ick for some reason.

It really depends on the provider. Their desired times can range from daybreak to late at night. Most I know prefer the evening.
i have hired someone and met as early as 8am and as late as midnight.

Most ATMs dispense  50s. Cash is always king 👑 

Most ATMs dispense  50s. Cash is always king 👑