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Some of them behave in the most peculiar way when dealing with others. It happens. I try to sympathize. Not every gay guy is comfortable in his own skin. Unless shared, we can never know someone's trauma. Massage, especially HE massage, is a very personal business. No other business is so intimate and revealing. Vulnerable to the extreme. Anticipation combined with being horny can turn a guy into someone he wouldn't recognize if captured on film. I will never forget my first HE massage. It was a surprise to me. I wasn't horny or looking for sex, but the masseur went for it anyway. He had a lot of fun working me over and up, but I couldn't orgasm, and he really wanted me to orgasm. He worked himself into a full blown sweaty mess, and I finally gave him what he wanted. I'm sure when all was said and done, he was happy to never see me again.

Everyone has their insecurities about something. Mine aren't with getting services I need and want. Some gay guys do not handle insecure men well. I've learned the hard way, it's far better to project confidence, especially when you're falling apart on the inside, or worried to death you might not be liked or enjoyed.

In all the years that I've been getting a massage (including the HE kind), the words "bad or awkward time" never entered my realm of thinking. I'm a customer paying for a service. The service provider is being paid to service me, not the other way around. I've never been cancelled, but I suppose if I had been, I would say no problem, unless I really loved the guy's talent. Then I would want to know why, understanding that he may choose not to tell me. Oh well, such is life.

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Sounds like a red flag to me.

If I had a ton of money, I'd be happy to get a massage every week with a new provider, and report back here of my findings. I'm a firm believer in paying it forward. Back in the day when I got massage very often, I would send out emails to my friends to always let them know when I discovered a winner. I like to share. People enjoy boards like this for different reasons. I'm not sure I see fairness in judging folks for perceived behavior or motive. It's OK by me. I'm not going to have the Premium membership for much longer, so I view this as sharing helpful information. It is interesting what some guys show and don't show in the Private Galleries, and then you always have to question whether any of those photos are real. For that reason alone, I don't think access is worth the cost. If there was some way to confirm photo ownership, then I might think differently, but that's never going to happen.

Doesn't look like he needs to shave any age. The guy looks young to me. If the erection photo is his, it's a pretty toy with the foreskin pulled back, plus, he's got some low hangers.

Can't believe he's trying to pass himself off as 52. A lot of gay seniors are still great at what they do. I just don't understand why some can't own their truthful age. As if lying makes them more appealing, especially when the lie is so obvious.

Beautiful erection. At least in the one photo he shares in private.

Loved the photos in the Rentmen ad. Great body. Super great legs. Some of the photos suggest a feminine nature. His teeth are extreme white. Would love to watch him workout. His body is sexy as all hell.

Looks to me like he could be fun and satisfying. Not sure about the underwear fashion show, but I like a jock-strapped guy who works on cars and bikes. Looks like he may have an intoxicating scent. Lots of private photos, but the mask is a bit off-putting. Clearly, he wants to remain anonymous. There are 3 photos of his uncut cock, and he belongs in one of those XL threads. Says he has a lot of experience. I hope someone who has tried him will report here.

Excuse me, but who are you with your constant nanny scolds and your silly, false-assuming questions? I am not naive, and nor am I disapproving of certain illegal behavior, especially for sex workers. I have done plenty in my long life. Please ignore my posts.

I don't mind it because it offers hope, that maybe a price is negotiable. Since I'm no longer interested in extras, I often ask if there's a rate for massage only. Many guys come back with something more affordable, but I won't spend anything if a guy does not convince me he's a professional. Also, since so many of the HE guys have a menu, what good does it do them to offer a single number? A lot of the HE guys do not like CHEAP, and they just don't want to deal with hagglers. ASK seems the only logical place to be if you want to offer varied services.

According to the photos, he's aged nicely. Can't imagine him ever working at Adonis, but I could easily see getting naked and lying on his table. Very surprised he doesn't have more buzz.

Wish there were more like you. Most of the 60-minute massages in my life cost around $80 with tip. The massage was $60, and I tipped $20. I was a very regular customer, once a week, sometimes twice. When prices rose to $150, I had to cut back. Anything over $200, I'd be lucky to get four a year. Covid killed everything for me, so now I'm starting from scratch. I can barely afford to fantasize about the $300 guys.

He's definitely not 39, but I don't remember him from Craigslist. He's got prices listed in his ad copy.

It is a strategy for far too many guys. The lure of easy money is very real and it's powerful. They know there are a lot of gay men out there (straight/bi too) looking for sensual touch (or just a less lonely handjob), with money to spend, and they abuse the work by disrespecting it and taking advantage of vulnerable, horny men. Sites like RM make a ton of money off the opportunists. Forums like this help expose the flaws and frauds. There are a few gems in the hay stack of dreadful and disappointing. There are men who know their healing powers and who truly enjoy making another man happy and stress free. If you are talented, massage is a great job to have because of the joys and freedom of self-employment. There will always be bad apples to spoil the cart. The key is to find the cream that always rises to the top, and if you can avoid temptation, remain loyal once you've found it. Far too many gay men find loyalty unexciting. They need a new massage guy every month or every week. As long as those customers exist, it's open season for the blue ball brigade.

Beautiful body, especially for an older man. Also, a very large and handsome endowment, with pubic hair.

Gay men can be notoriously difficult customers, especially the horny ones. The words needy and selfish come to mind. Massage with sensual elements is not an easy business. Some customers can be quite demanding, and use social media as a weapon when they don't get what they want. Maybe $300 for 60 minutes, but not $200. Most licensed professionals might consider that degrading. Picking and choosing your sensual limits is difficult enough to express when English is your native language. Can't imagine trying to navigate those waters with poor language skills. I could easily argue that in America, choosing to offer sensual massage when English is not your first language might be a bad idea. If you learn to master the English language, you will be better equipped to handle difficult customers. Saying no to a horny gay man without insulting him requires special skills.

That's too bad. Igor and Eugene are good looking guys with nice bodies. They are both heavily endowed with Russian porn cock. If they could attempt to at least offer fake passion, then maybe the cost could be justified. Even better if they excelled at massage. What a disappointing waste. It's threads like these that save us guys from overspending and leaving an appointment with a headache, and feeling awful about throwing so much money down the toilet.

OMG, they become jaded so quickly these days.

If everyone hated the scent of feces, there would be nobody to work in oncology departments. I couldn't do the work, but thank goodness others enjoy it. Look at all the horse lovers in our world. Can't love a horse and be bothered by the scents that come with the love.

There was a massage guy in NYC's Flatiron many years ago who would offer kissing as part of his sensual service. I did not go to him for that, but when I visited, and he offered the upgrade, he did it in a very seductive manner, and I surprisingly accepted. I'm glad I did. He was a great kisser, and a talented seducer. He would kiss passionately, while touching all the hot spots with his warm and sensual touch. He was very skilled at massage. I don't remember his name. Not sure if he's still around. He was popular back in the day. I imagine it's easier to find kissers among the escorts who do massage. They know the deal. Asking a non-escort is fraught with an invite to rejection, on all levels.

Now that I've seen his private photos, I can confirm the guy is definitely handsome. He's got a Jason Statham thing going on, but with more hair. Very masculine looking. Intense eyes. Could easily be an actor, or a stunt double. Now that I've seen his face, I'd like to try his service.

Truth be told, there are a lot of guys simply looking for some intimate touch. Personally, I can't fault them for that, and I'm glad there's a market for non-professionals seeking to please. A lot of us can't compete on Grindr (or even access the app), and we can't afford high-priced escorts. No one should have to go through life empty of intimate touch, especially gay men. Finding a professional masseur with talent, who happens to love nudity and playing in the sensual realm is a lot more challenging. Those guys are out there, but the favorites are very busy, serving loyal customers and living life. Every once in awhile a new guy slips in. Thank goodness for a forum like this one to spread the word.