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Afraid you might be in the wrong hobby......the only fool proof solution is a compete stop. Second best is to oral with condom on. There are really no other options unfortunately. PS: you are a married men, have your priority right mate.

Keen to check if anyone had hired Dato Foland? Thanks

$$$ moves needle. Just say you are looking to book them 3x market rate/hour for a private event.

This guy clearly lacks work ethic. Sure shite happens but there ought to be ways to compensate the 'losing' party. Gotta look at this from a business perspective, that is literally his job. A provider (whom I met for 1st time) had offer me 1 free session as compensation because he wasnt able to 'get it up'. I had forgot about that offer until he reminded me couple weeks after. That gesture speaks volume of his character. Other provider had to cancel on me a couple hours before appointed time, he then scheduled me in for the next day and stay past the agreed time (with no extra charge). That said, if I were you I wont be booking that guy in the future. There is no point of talking it out with him, trying to suss out his reasonings.....not with how he had treated you. I would inclined to say otherwise had he offer some sort of compensation for your loss.

They prolly think you are scam caller....

I always do in-peeson checkout...if not just due to habbit. Nonetheless, front desk wont care if you have a companion. Or you can easily check out by yourself and have your companion wait at the lobby. I would go as far as putting my regular's name on the booking just so he can pick room key up at the front desk when he arrives....safe me time going down to lobby.

Indeed he does. He was very honest on reasonings. All good, I pay agreed rates and give him a 5-stars review. Him opting to save his cum did not negatively impact my satisfaction of the session. I merely would prioritise booking providers who would cum as I dont typically book for 1h session. And I always book for evening/ late evening session.

I always invite providers to cum at the end of session. Only one rejection to date, that is discounting fake orgasm and non-perfomer. Whilst its not a deal breaker, I am unlikely to repeat book that one provider unless situation so requires.

If you dont or cant understand or see the silver lining here....nothing much I can say on the topic. Providers are ultimately businessmen, they work to better their life....so if they wish to charge premium so they can have $$$ to enjoy their life be it buying property, fancy car, business class flight etc...I dont see the issue here. If I can afford such premium rate then all good, if not I would simply move on. I simply cannot understand clients being outrage at high rates as if hiring provider is a primary need. One can live all right without ever paying for sex. Hiring provider is secondary or even tertier needs. Its like hoping to buy a ferrari at a price of a honda. Again, if monies is a concern, why bother visit ferrari showroom? Just go straight to toyota or honda. Surely y'all dont think providers are social service workers who are expected to provide stellar services at low price; where they are not expected to earn $$$$ so they can hopefully retire young. One of my regulars charge premium $$$$ and nowadays he has slowly cutting back working hours, invest wise and has proper passive incomes.....so yeah good on him for bettering his life and future. I see no problem whatsoever him charging premium $$$, I can afford him after all.

If quoted rate is outside of your budget....simply move on, look for cheaper options. I recently pivoted to less known brands as the likes of Gucci etc are no longer healthy for my bank account. Monies better spent elsewhere. I dont feel the need to call Gucci etc to lower their prices. Simply stop buying their products. I reckon same for everything else in life, hiring provider included.

Frankly bit lost here. Are you looking for a BFE with him (hence thinking to offer $$$) or rather leaning towards real life dating (which wouldnt customarily involve $$$ offer)? Each has vastly different implication. If the former, ask him nicely I reckon - rejection is a possibility but he unlikely be offended. Surely he has similar propositions in the past. If the latter, now this is a different ballgame. Whats your plan here? Ask him out on a date in real life but would still be paying him for massage? Or you would stop being a paying customer? So he stand to lose a line of income and supposed to gain what? Are you a catch? Financially ready to support his life? Has he ever insinuated that he is willing to provide same service for free? Bottomline - if you are still paying for his time, he deff without a doubt see you just as a customer (might be his best customer but a customer nonetheless). All my regulars treat me with extra care and super accomodative (e.g. moving their prior engagment to meet my annoyingly erratic schedule; let me pay days after session; pick me up to go to dinner; treating me meals; off-clock lunch/ dinner etc) - none of the above indicate any of them would look at me beyond a preferred customer. I pay premium $$$ for their time.

Move on. There are literally lotsa fishes in the sea....if you cant afford it, you probably shouldnt force it. No point putting yourself in a financial risks for this.

Do you tip your lawyer (on top of their hourly rate)? Doctor? vet? Therapist?

Pretty sure majority of clients have had these sort of experiences. Me self have lost count where providers simply failed to get their tool to stand to attention. Cost of doing business. Echoing others, them most stunning providers not always the best suited option.

Was stalked.....no harm me safe just surprised and (frankly) hilarious lol

In so far re resonding to any and all advances on grindr or IG.....I reckon there would be a quite opposite view between the average looking joes and the hotties. Imagine sending say 10ish texts and got ignored 80%/90% of the time on daily basis. Must be disheartening, what a blow to self esteem. Now imagine for a sec being on the other end, receiving wayyy more than 10ish texts and be expected to respond to every single one on daily basis. That must be tiring and well annoying. I knw a mate (who is an absolute sex magnate) who got crazy amount of texts on grindr daily. And more so on IG. Understanably he would only respond to guys he attracted to. Is he rude? Certainly priviledge but wouldnt call him rude.

Some providers market through grindr (in addition to RM) thus see ppl reaching out to them on grindr as potential customer and would expectedly direct them to his RM. That said, some others use grindr for non-business reasons, they be looking for potential free hook-up and not potential customer. In such case cant really fault them for not responding. I bet most of us regular folks often ignore advances on grindr for whatsoever reasons - so why should pretty ppl be held on higher standard? IMO, for a client to enjoy this hobby long term, one should readily upfront accept and acknowledge that none provider will happily spend their time and effort on you if not for $$$. Key is not how they feel towards you but how good is their acting/ performance on the clock. Everytime a provider compliment my looks, I know for sure thats a lie. This is not me looking down on my self but me knowing and accepting the nature of the relationship. Make life easier on my end as a client.

Put yourself in the shoes of a client. You should have answer of what to do.

Thanks....was asking solely bcs no provider ever quoted me 1k+ for a 24ho hire. Lowest was north of 3,5k.

This is eerily familiar. A colleague of mine was a victim recently, wiped him out of 150k+ just shortly after he paid a deposit for a house. On those dating apps scammer, I had found that telling them I am a lawyer usually an instant show stopper lol

Honest qs here, is this a market rate?

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Echoing this. I have this one provider who I used to see regularly, overnights, weekends, trips. We text daily, purely professional at the start then slowly becoming more casual and personal. Communication always gets intense pre and (for days, a week or so top) post the first couple of trips. I called it customer service period. There was this period where I was seeing him intensely, went on several trips (ranging from 3/5 days each) in a short 2 months. I was honestly on the brink of catching feeling (or maybe I was if i am being honest). Then he pulls away, slowly but noticeably. We never talk about it. Communication just stop. I stop seeing him for months till recently but no intense communication pre or post this time. He reaches out, we set up a meet. It was a great one, no awkwardness. Nowadays, we would trade check-in texts every couple weeks, nothing intense. I would say prior to the hiatus he would text like a flirt, nowadays more like a mate.

Its a bit more nuance IMO especially where intimacy is involved. He might see keeping client at arms lenght is a way to maintain professional relationship, to avoid said client feeling too deep (in particular after a trip). Its a subtle way to maintain boundaries without being rude or harsh. Been there....so kinda see the provider's pov.

Unless absolutely necessary, I won't randomly text my regulars (not even the one who I have been on trips with or had met free of charge several times for meals). When it comes to paid time, client controls the dynamic but if otherwise its the provider. All my free of charge meets have been proposed by the provider, its their free time afterall. On the other note, he did such a pro job that you geniunely enjoy your time together, so much you believe he would do it again (though in a much smaller scale, say for coffee) for free. If he really keen, he would ask you. I once invite my regular to dinner prior to scheduled session (which would be non paid hour), he politely declined and offer to buy me dessert after play (within paid hours). Couple days forward, he invite me to a brunch free of charge (I paid for meals, he paid for dessert). All in all, very subtle but message is crystal clear.