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I only leave a review when it was a 5 star experience. If it was just so-so I say nothing. I once left a poor review from a provider who had outdated pics and stole from me, he updated his pics and so then rentmen took the review down. I was furious and back and forth with rentmen went on until they finally put the review back up. The provider sent me my money back and I then deleted the review in exchange. I think it's best to check rentmen reviews, but also reviews here.

You did actually: "mostly reject this technical definition being conflated with being held down and fucked, being cornered with weapons, or being drugged and waking up violated." How you don't think that is minimizing what happened is beyond me. You do seem to think your opinion is more valid than everyone else's on a lot of topics actually and your comments here are in my view, reprehensible. As someone who works with people who have gone through this kind of trauma - your comments here are glib at best, alarming at worse, and shameful either way. Imagine arguing in front of the person who has been violated in this way that it's not a sexual violation 'enough', instead of offering support a guidance. Then in the next breath when you have been called out, say 'oh no my SA was actually not violent too', The mind boggles and your audacity, and also your ability to make everything about yourself. As I said previously - it's not a competition. I'd advise you to do some research about 'conditional consent' how it applies in particular to sexual consent. Finally - You clearly think but don't know everything about everything. You do not actually know if I have been a victim of sexual assault. Don't bother replying to me I am done with you. I give little to no value to your opinions or experience on these forums anymore. I would say it's still been a sexual violation. from a legal perspective it would come down to the 'mens rae', that is to say the intention. If there was intention to rob the sex worker the whole time, then it would be sexual assault. If the client intended to pay, and then later saw an opportunity to rob them and took the money, it would be able to be separated in to two different acts instead of one. Either way, completely scummy act and as mentioned before - a plight of providers having to deal with things we may never otherwise have to worry about.

Being a SA survivor doesn't mean you are now the final arbiter of what constitutes sexual assault. In fact, most sexual assault does not include extreme violence - this is very a Hollywood idea. Most SA victims are in fact compliant during the act in the hope that it minimizes and deescalates the violence. This attitude you are presenting is very damaging (why didn't they fight back if it was SA?) Thankfully it seems the consensus here is that it is lack of consent is all that is required, which as someone else as mentioned should be common sense. And if you are a SA survivor - I would expect you not to belittle someone else's experience simply because it was not as 'bad' as yours. There are many different levels of this - including any non-consensual sexual contact, through coercion, manipulation, or threats not just physical force. Also: friendly reminder it's not a competition buddy. It's kind of wild how this thread has taken a bad turn. I am so sorry for what happened to Brazilian Cutie. It is a stark reminder about why some providers are so cautious. Especially with attitudes like this.

weird he would have 40 something reviews and not a single mention here

id take all three, everything, everywhere, all at once.

I don't know a single provider who would rather steal $50 than show to the appointment and make another $300.

I didn't say "you are grandpa Simpson." I said "you sound like grandpa Simpson". there is a difference between those two statements and you'd do well to learn it. You also sound like you have ZERO sense of humor so must be great fun at parties! here is my apology:

there is a difference between being old and showing your age. You sound like Grandpa Simpson screaming at the clouds with your reply here.

As someone who worked in the service industry for years as teen through to my mid 20s, the hairs on my neck bristle I read you say 'what ever happened to the customer is always right?', And you saying that with your whole chest tells me everything I need to know. As Lily Allen would say "Its not me, it's you."

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where are you based? the team may be able to to send you some recommendations.

He is a very popular guy on twitter and only fans. I think he probably gets a lot of messages and only a few are actual clients as opposed to time wasters. I do agree he would do better to just block and move on instead of sending nasty comments but he probably thinks 'they will never be my client anyway'. I didn't find his rates to be out of the ordinary for NYC. I have seen him a few times now. I wouldn't advise to reach out unless you are a serious client. doesn't sound like he does well with people just fishing for info. people say this all the time about the providers - but he really is more handsome than his pics. I don't know why he has chosen those pics for his profile. I doubt people would say anything bad if they actually met him.

option 1 - Thanks for our time together, as great as I think you are, I don't think I have the budget to keep seeing you. option 2 - stop messaging and ghost him.

bump. any blond men around you guys can recommend?

very true! I guess you'd see it's not them when they ring the intercom? I have never robbed someone so I'm not sure exactly of the planning required. I'm just stating that I can understand that pics can be requested for security purposes. I see female providers as well and I have yet to see one who not only requests, but requires it for this purpose. Once I had a female friend ask me to come over her place and work from home at her place for the day as she was getting furniture delivered and she didn't want to be home alone when strange men were going to come in. At first I thought she was crazy - but after thinking it over, it made sense. Someone else may be or feel vulnerable in a situation that I myself would not be. Providers really put themselves out there in this sense. Some will be more comfortable doing it than others, ,or need extra steps to make them feel safe.

I don't think this is actually true. If you are a bad actor who wants to rob/rape/hurt a provider and they have a photo of you, and you KNOW they have a photo of you, I think it is a influential factor as to whether you still want to do or that or not. I think there are other ways of getting an identity or being able to track a client but a photo is pretty quick and to the point way. I know when I send my face pic providers do seem to feel more comfortable with me.

I suspect not many providers are doing this purely for the enjoyment, but rather the generous money involved. I'd like to think it is an enjoyable way to make cash though!

I also had plans to meet, added him to my instagram profile to confirm I was real at his request, confirmed hotel/time/rate which was all agreed. Only for him to ask to reschedule 20 minutes before our meeting later that evening as his 'work cut out later and he had other plans tonight'.

you learn something new everyday, as they like to say.

For this reason I use Signal and or/Whatsapp as they both have the ability to send messages that cannot be screenshot and can be set to automatically disappear. I am not ugly I have no problem sending my pic, and I do like to see the face first. I agree with the OP that not showing face on a rentmen profile actually makes me like the person more - for all the reasons mentioned. I have found truth in this.

My first message is always 'hey is this xxxx?' I don't know why but I always get paranoid I put a number wrong or something as I view rentmen on my laptop not my phone. When they confirm I send a who/what/when/where message - stating a bit about me, what I am looking for, when I was looking to schedule, and where my hotel is. I have always received pretty good replies and not just one word answers. I think it shows I am legit and perhaps that leads to the responses. I pretty much only hire when I travel so I always reach out a few days earlier. If I get no reply I would move on another provider the next day or later that evening. I must confess I have never sent messages to 3 providers and then decided to rate the replies like the OP has. Surprised me to read people do that.

the chat function does not function when a providers ad is expired.

I have been looking for him for a while. I follow his twitter but I have been hesitant to hire due to him never showing face. I have decided to just go for the plunge and then I see his rentmen profile is down. If anyone here is a regular of his, are you able to ask if he is still seeing new clients or just focusing on his online work now only?

Time Destroys Everything

I suspect this fantasy is way more common than you think.