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Yeah but frankly when it's a rarer niche the provider is in a position to call some shots too. Most providers are not "I will give you precisely what you want no questions" unless the money is REALLY good. You're still dealing with a live person.

Are you insistent that it be a provider experience as opposed to just a hookup? Because there are transmen on both grindr and scruff. The reality is that due to their relative rarity the odds of a, um, custom experience are low anyway. If you're just looking to cross it off your bucket list, you have options.

The article from The Hill that Ali posted, not the one in the OP

Oh the ARTICLE is judging as hell for sure.

Not judging, just observing.

What I'd love to know, but we'll never get, is a break down of where their line is. Like there's the exhibitionist who will jerk off in front of each other. Then the next level will reach over and lend a hand, then the people who will get sucked but not reciprocate, will suck/get sucked but not fuck. Then the people who will top but not bottom, and then the guys who will bottom but not top because all they are into is the prostate stimulation. I think a lot of these guys almost completely dissociate during sex with a man and see that person almost as a blow-up doll and that's why they resist the bisexual label. Because they're using a personal definition.

This sort of thing really does put a crimp in my houseboy/ caretaker retirement plans.

I mean, the whole reason there is a subset of gays who hit on every man they see without any indication of orientation is that a decent percent of the time(assuming the person doing the propositioning is reasonably attractive), it works.

Dude, he was fishing for a blow job from you. Or just jerking you around to blow off work.

Trying to steer clear of political, but societally, I think he just happens to be on the leading edge of something that's coming and it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. There have been a lot of people on edge for a number of years now. And there's a reason these billionaires are building bunkers. Increase the stress on a hundred million people, a few thousand are gonna snap badly, statistically speaking And that's not saying it's going to come from one "side of the aisle" or other because there's a random element to it. The economic middle has hollowed out in this country due to uncertainty- i.e. live in a nice house but do not have the savings to keep it if they're out of work for even a few months - and a LOT of people are closer than they realize to having nothing left to lose.

Pretty sure Luigi is held in higher regard than those other guys there.

It's also frankly harder to keep the secret these days.

I could be seeing selection bias at the gym I suppose because many totally straight guys let themselves go. And the bi married guys have added motivation to go to the gym because the locker room/steam/sauna is the only place their wives can't find them.

I played for a few years on a gay rugby team that played in the regular "straight" league. I found that in general, the straight teams seemed to do a LOT more "gay" stuff than then gay team. Getting naked at the drinkups, making out.etc. which made me wonder what I'd missed out on by not joining my college team...

This. I'm out in the burbs and there's something in the water in the town my gym is in because I swear every last married dad in that gym is down low bi. Not necessarily acting on it, mind you, but checking each other out etc. I thought it was pretty well-established that in prolonged all-male environments something like 35-40% of guys will play. Just most of them don't talk about it. Hell, when I was younger these guys almost seemed to develop selective mutism when they played. Forget telling you their name, they couldn't even say what they wanted to do.

Billy on MF but it's not like a gentle table shower kind of scrub it's one of those exfoliating salt scrubs. I have sensitive skin and I basically tapped out.

See I was thinking "Packages" with the staff in UPS garb...

I sorta feel like perhaps we've strayed into talking about him a little inappropriately. Maybe the thread should be closed and edited by the mods with something like "people were concerned about Coolwave's absence, but he is fine, just left the forum for now." Oooh...we could setup a new subforum called "The Milk Carton" where the thread title is a poster's handle and a status could be left...

Another business done in by OnlyFans....

A lot of posters don't realize how many identifying details they've let slip over the years, and given the nature of this board, that could have repercussions for their personal or professional life. I would assume that's what's going on here. But if anyone knows him outside the forum, maybe just check in with him to make sure he's ok.

Understandable.

Botox just smoothes wrinkles by paralyzing muscles, won't fix sagging skin.

I'm pretty sure they all talk. At least to the ones who are their friends. I had to scale back for a while because I was starting to feel like a mark.

There's a bathhouse named Adonis in Vegas that is likely causing some confusion. I checked it out last month during an off-peak time, and they're still building it out, but it kinda has a layout that could be conducive to a Nude Party....

Eh, the more recent pic that people are complaining about still looks pretty attractive to me. Did he look better when he was younger? Yes. Does he look good to me now? Also yes. Basically if he is "on," he is a good time. If he's not, he's not. I had two meetings with him, one good, one not good(though he was pleasant and not nasty, just wasn't...up.)