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On 11/10/2023 at 11:33 AM, Simon Suraci said:

Sorry for the cold shower on your hot fantasy, guys. I’m just trying to inject some realism into this discussion so you can develop appropriate expectations and also delight in the unexpected when it happens. Value your providers and pay them accordingly.

Please keep in mind we are not cum machines. I completely understand the client fantasy of a massage scenario morphing into a porn set. That scenario assumes your appointment is the only thing on your masseur’s agenda for the day. However, it’s just that: a fantasy.

I can’t deliver cum for a massage fee for every client that darkens my door. Some days that means I would have to get hard and ejaculate six times back to back. Never mind the fact that I may have a legit escort client I have to perform for on that same day. I just can’t do it consistently and still maintain quality or sufficiently pace myself.

If you want your masseur to cum as part of your massage session, please ask for it and pay his escort rate, or at the very least, tip very generously when you fail to discuss an appropriate fee prior to starting the session and he does it for you anyway. If your guy is already way overcharging for massage (like, $200+/hr), it’s safe to assume these services are already baked into the cost and I wouldn’t worry about it.

$160/hr or less I would assume nothing more than massage, and enjoy the possibility of some extras if he does them. Happy endings are very common and normal, but not guaranteed. Do not expect full service, oral, or your masseur to cum for you. Some guys might do these things for their regular massage fee, but please respect masseurs with boundaries around what they will do for their standard massage fee. Boundaries vary. Clients are not entitled to anything they didn’t already discuss with their masseur.

I want my clients to understand the value of each of the services they hire and pay accordingly. Massage (even erotic massage) is NOT discount sex work. Blowing loads all over clients with no discussion of rates beforehand is, in my mind, asking the client to expect discount escort services.

We can debate at length about what is and isn’t sex work and many other threads already hash it out. IMHO, having to deliver cum - in one way or another - is well within the sex work category. Others can charge whatever they want for it. If your guy can consistently cum for you for a massage fee, enjoy the discount service, but please do not place the same expectations on other masseurs.

I can do six massages a day. I can’t possibly take six escort clients a day. So I charge higher for escort service and lower for massage. Scarcity over a given time period is among the many reasons I charge the way I do.

Thanks for this. I’m so turned off by the marketing posts disguised as “genuine” impromptu posts. 

Good massage don’t count on any fun. After much persuasion and $400 he agreed to a HE. That was a one time only. I followed up for a repeat and he said he thought about it and he didn’t want to do sensual massages anymore. 

1 hour ago, Trick said:

Are you trying to say he is past his prime?

Depends on what each client wants. He’s not my cup of tea but a terrific guy. For another, no, not past his prime. To each, his own. 

Met him. Didn’t do a thing for me. Too many miles on the odometer. Nice guy though. We had a nice chat. 

Link to his RM ad?

Anyone see him recently?

Ad is up in nyc. Anybody have intel?

On 2/26/2024 at 10:57 AM, Jasonmathison said:

Has anyone seen Jose for a combo of sugaring and sensual massage?  I wonder if he’d be open to sugaring in the nude.    I guess I should just ask him.  

I’ve seen him for shaving and massage. He was nude for the massage and in shorts and a tank top for the shaving. I’m certain he would be nude if you asked him. 

I would send a pic 

I had a session with him a couple of weeks ago. Yes terse one word replies. But he showed up as he said he would right on time. He did great. Wonderful massage and great energy. It was a terrific experience for me as a client. 

1 hour ago, WestGuy said:

Someone I know who saw him said that the provider confided that given his looks he could charge whatever he wanted and clients would gladly pay it.

There’s a certain category of men with looks + style who can charge what they want. There’s a certain category of consumers (not found on the “commercial retail” sidewalk such as this message board) who will pay it. 

On 8/28/2023 at 11:16 AM, colonexstacy said:

I actually left at 2:15. of course I waited a little while as I did not want to miss someone that hot. Yet he was not answering and all indications were he was not coming. Do not even think of holding me accountable MikeThomas.  I did my part.  You seem to operate from a different standpoint.

This isn’t very long to wait IMHO. You were trying to get out of it. 

On 1/1/2024 at 12:12 AM, BenjaminNicholas said:

Sidebar:

Gay circuit events still exist?  Hell...  Who goes to these kinds of things?  Did the younger gay gens adopt them?

From what I remember going to a few in the mid-2000s, the music was pots-and-pans shit, the costumes ridiculous and the meth/k/x/coke flocked the multitude of crackheads like the swallows of Capistrano.

Come on. You know better. Atlantis cruise anyone? I’m sure you have friends or friends of friends who went on it. 

Almost certainly not testicular cancer as that usually affects men under 40. 

You may want to heed some of this advice and take input Jarrod. You have so many posts about why are you not getting enough business. When I see a post like that even without looking at who the author is I know it’s one of yours.  Without getting defensive, you might take the feedback as I think it was meant to be helpful. 

Text only 

Is that an RPLND scar down his midline?

No they don’t live there just Giovanni. They no longer work together. 

12 hours ago, Thelatin said:

I only hire for overnights, and I’m finding that’s too much effort for not enough time.  I’m starting to plan more 4-5 day trips, or having them stay at my place if I’ve known them for a while.  I like time to just relax with wine, music, food etc.

I’d be like “OK get the f&$k out” and they’d be like “I’m in prison” lol

I think the answer is in this thread. People just don’t like the answer and want to blame the messenger. Part of it is Pubic Assistance, with his acerbic and irascible style, makes a good target but at the end of the day, there just aren’t many spas with a cohort of guys over 40. Of course there’s the exception here and there and the OP has listed them. And that’s great. Your best bet if you want an older masseur is to hire them off RM or masseurfinder. 

It’s all good—older guys are great but despite us celebrating them the marketplace doesn’t support businesses employing them in significant numbers, for right or wrong. 
End of story. 

 

Plus many younger guys have ED issues. Many of my younger gay friends take cialis and or Trimix. So what. 

3 hours ago, GlamNYC said:

What happened? He’s such a nice guy. More a like friend with benefits than a provider. 🙂 

Kiddo is great. 

If he has an ad on rentmasseur, tbh, you’re in the wrong to expect more than a massage and a HE. 

15 hours ago, APPLE1 said:

I know the post is for NYC, but quit playing the I know a secret game. LOL!

Give us the name of the Chicago spa! Inquiring minds want to know!

Sir Spa

Does anyone want to put their money where their mouth is?