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Hey there. I mostly lurk in the background and didn't have an account. I contacted Bret today after reading these and asked some polite questions about his massages. I debated posting our exchange but feel like it might not be fair to him (I'm not embarrassed of a single thing I said). But this was my initial message:
 
Hi I was interested in booking a session with you but had some questions:
1. What elements of sensuality (if any) do you allow?
2. I saw some reviews online that say that you shorted significant time. If I booked, I just want to make sure that the full session length is honored.
3. Do you do deep tissue massage?
Thank you.
He then went absolutely berserk. He called me a jerk, creep and rapist, then told me he'd call the police if I messaged him (while he kept messaging). It seems like he's going through some kind of trauma or psychological stress. I was going to post the conversation, but I think it would be more hurtful toward him than helpful. I just also felt like people should be warned that something is really off.
 

Yeah, I did go a third time, and it was disappointing.
He was late to buzz me up, and still had me out within less than 90 minutes (I paid for 2 hours). Before the session, I asked him if it's the same rate as always, he said it was. He texted me (politely) after  to tell me he believes that I shorted him money. I told him to scroll up, but still venmoed him the difference of what he wanted, but with a personal resolution that in his case, it's his character, not his skills, that are not professional or attractive to me in any way.
I hope you guys don't go through any of that with him if you try. It's unfortunate, I felt our rapport in person was good.

Ditto. My first time was great, but my 2nd time was really really great.

I've had similar experience but it is rare, rather than typical. Recently i was in NYC for 4 days, same as a visiting provider. Texted him as soon as i landed but never heard back. There could be a variety of reasons why. Just like any business, you take it elsewhere when this happens. There are lots of providers who are more responsive. 

Yes back in NYC and I saw him yesterday.   Super nice guy - hair longer than in the pics but suits him. Very accommodating. Provides a solid pressure-point/shiatsu style massage on bed when not in LA.  $200 for 1/hr, will wear underwear or nothing; MT/HE.  If that sounds what your looking for, I'd recommend, and I'd repeat.

Just visited him this weekend...100% recommend

Ditto. My first time was great, but my 2nd time was really really great.

Wow! This thread takes the biscuit for word count!

Hello. Anyone have recommendations for providers who are willing to be mutually nude in nyc. I love the providers who start off clothed and by the time you flip over they are magically naked. Thought it would be good to create a consolidated for the New York area here

New listing, new name?
 
Anyone have any intel/experience?
 
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/46782/
 

It's unfortunate what you had to experience, and you have my empathy. So a few providers treated you poorly. Why drag Chicago down with it though? Your bad experience was between you and the providers. What’s Chicago got to do with that?

Calling the business Tai Chi is a bit of misnomer imo. 

This is not the same guy. 

He messaged me 12/30 to say he is scheduling clients again.  The message contained specifics on a full range of services.  DM if you are interested to make an appointment and would like additional details.

I have alerted everyone who contacted me who requestied additional details about my communication with him.  I however thought it would be best to post here as well:
I discovered a discussion on The Deli concerning: news that last summer HottieOtter was charged with attempted rape of a minor in a sting operation.  Evidently in his porno past he has gone by Mitch Matthews.  On RentMen he is HottieOtterChi.
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If the charges are real they're quite terrible....at the same time, LGBT and especially sex workers have always been targets to exploit false charges against.
I believe in innocent until proven guilty and I haven't seen anything further come out publicly on this.
All that being said I would personally pause on hiring him until the dust settled too
From another member on the Deli regarding his profile:
He has only one pic with no face pic. So I asked for more pics of himself and it  really mitch matthews 
I reported the ad
 
   
 

It is always disappointing but helpful to know when one of us has a bad experience.  Yours in fact sounds like a bit of a nightmare.   I believe PP has a presence here.  Maybe he will take note of your report.  It surely is a cautionary tale.   Chicago has many good masseurs.   Hopefully you will find success on your next visit.  Thanks for your report.

Calling the business Tai Chi is a bit of misnomer imo. 

I've met both Will and Lewis, Lewis was therapeutic only do can't speak to his member. Massage quality personally I prefer Will, impressive member, great personalities and nice extras. Lewis does have a nice British accent and is quite fit compared to Will, his personality is a bit arrogant and a bit aloof in my opinion.  Between the 2 my preference is Will but can't speak to anything beyond therapeutic for Lewis.  
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Zach has impressive member as well,  but may not fall in your definition of super hung.  He gives an incredible massage,  better than Lewis in my opinion,  charming guy, nice sensual elements,  limited extras, he's married but definitely worth a visit.  Both Will and Zach are on my regulars list and I see them monthly.  Did not see the need to repeat with Lewis.

That's right.  WillRP won't disappoint. But another comment posted is right, it depends on your definition of hung. Lengthwise I think Will is hung but not overly. But the girth? Holy sh**

Second will and his BF - great session 

Highly recommend Will. He ticks all those boxes. https://rentmasseur.com/WillRP

Highly recommended here as well. Great experience all around. 

He went by Big Dorian on RM. 
 
Personally I would not recommend. His massage goes beyond painful and deep and I love deep tissue massage.  I was in pain for days. Not skilled with absolute zero sensual aspects.  
However if you're into pain, he's definitely the guy for you.

I totally agree with you on this.
In my experience relayed above, I did pay a higher than therapeutic rate, and still did not request or expect to have him cum at the end. I think just happened to be a mutual chemistry thing, and I let him know I appreciated the experience the best way I knew how, with a big thank you and a big tip on top of that higher rate.