starman05

I'm on it!!!! Not.

Anthony. Give it up. Walk. Away. It must be frustrating when you see others getting to meet this guy but block him and move on. I knew a provider for massage; he used it to get through law school. I met him when he was close to finishing up and then, getting ready for the bar. He said he would be retiring after he passed the bar, which he did on his first try. We were supposed to have one last hurrah and then COVID hit. We were in touch for a bit but then ...nothing. It's been incredibly hard for me but I have to move on. Our situations are different but you need to move on too. I have an address of the law firm he's at now but would never consider even visiting nearby restaurants hoping to 'run into him.' If we bump into each other someday at the Eiffel Tower or Walt Disney World or Times Square -- fantastic! Life, alas, is not a movie.

thanks Yoyohey; it's not always true but sometimes the more you pay the better it is. I'd be okay seeing someone great once every two months or so rather than seeing someone meh 2x a month who may be less expensive.

thanks for posting; I did a search on him on the site recently but nothing came up. Am curious, too.

Mind u I’ll never look like that but I think I and anyone can look the best we can

He’d have to big spoon me for a good 10 minutes post massage for $300. seriously, though, he looks worth it if the skills are there.

Ha! size queens to the front of the line!

I’ll definitely go for one but I want to pick a guy who’ll give a great one; not one who I choose because he’s hot; yes, you can have both. Occasionally I’ve been lucky enough to find that.

questbear I'm glad you were able to resolve your issue and that the provider knows he wasn't stiffed; that would bother me too.

one time, I got a massage based on a referral; my bad for not confirming with the provider the cost; our mutual pal did and it was $20 less than the guy's posted price on his ad. After I left (the massage was horrible; he was on speed or something; he was fidgety - kept checking his phone; would not stop talking) he reached out and said I shorted him 40 bucks. I drove back over and left $40 in an envelope in his mailbox, texted him it was there, and never heard from him again. Our mutual pal asked how it went. I said oh, good. Fine. He kept pushing about when I'd see his pal again. I finally said, 'Look not only was he horrible, he made no attempt at a connection and he acted disengaged. It was my 100% bad for not confirming the fee directly with the provider but to go $20 higher than his posted rate? I was referred by a pal after all. Looking back, it was a learning experience. I should have asked the mutual pal why do you think your pal and I would be a match. I didn't bother pointing out to the provider he was jacking up the price. Best $20 I ever spent. I never had to see him again. More recently, I saw someone who really seemed down on his luck; he'd moved to a new city and seem really scared about making ends meet. He got nervous as I was leaving and asked if he could count the money. I said sure. He was thrilled I'd tipped him. I hope he's okay.

Instead of hiring someone who looks like that lately, I’ve been thinking I’d be better off putting my resources into trying to - in as much as possible - looking like that. yoga. Diet. Gym. Hikes. Better grooming bodywork products.

I’d be screamin’ for my momma in no time

hardware. That’s my nightmare I got spoiled once or twice with a few different guys just taking their time and making me feel like there was a connection when I first started getting massages sadly, they’re both out of the business now.

thanks, Brian hi Harryinny, I've been to Ryan before; it was 100% legit. He made me feel great though. He knows what he's doing. I live in LA but I'd take the drive down to Long Beach to see him again. Starman

Does anyone know if RyanWest is still based on Long Beach? I see he's in (or is visiting) Houston right now. TIA! RyanWest on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com

A 6’ twink?

Sometimes that’s exactly what I need the most

Sim, thanks for sharing . It sounds like you don't regret the experience. (Do I have that right?) I saw Josh maybe twice over 20 years ago and they weren't as intimate as yours; I recall a massage and maybe a HE? Not sure. I don't recall the massage being that great. and I didn't see him more than 2x. It might have been just once. I used to think these encounters weren't real (whatever that means) and empty. Then, COVID hit. and I had no intimacy at all. I think if we have the chance to go for any happiness, we should it's here and then...gone. (As a writer once put it.)

he looks like the last guy you'd want to square off against in wrestling in gym class in high school -- and the first guy you might want to wrestle with today.

Thx!

thanks, Aeikaryoko, that does sound hot and intimate. My favorite massages aren't ones in which we dive into some heavy fun or play but where there's more of a nurturing connection; where he's in control and you feel taken care of. Is Vance based in PS or does he come to LA, do you know? TIA

serious question: what is breath work? Does he ask you to do certain breathing or does he just lean in a little bit and breathe on your neck or into your ear to make it hot? Thanks.

not only a vibe killer but what if only brought enough for the previously agreed upon rate? I guess today there's Venmo but...that leaves an electronic trail; my big fear is that some ideal type is working on me and I'm totally relaxed and then, the upsell hits and I say yes and he goes okay, u r under arrest.

but isn't it different now in that you know what to expect? not trying to champion either seeing him again or not....and I am hesitant to ever confirm anything in text that's too specific but sometimes I might say, 'what we did last time was great; does that all (meaning expectations and fee) work for you?' But even if I were to agree to an upsell midway through I might not repeat. That leaves a bad taste - so to speak. I've had too many fortuante instances where chemistry takes over. I GET what this exchange is with providers. But...if I can fool myself into thinking just for the moment that this is something organic....well, why not.

upsells after you're already, ahem, paying attention drive me bananas. It's a tough call; I prefer a solid massuer who knows what he's doing and charges a rate he can live with and if there's any chemistry between us, yay! If you hit it off and this time you know what you're getting into and you don't have anyone else then, sure; I have had some pretty empty experiences over the years. Then, COVID hit and there was no intimacy on any level in my life for years. Even now it's risky to go out there. But..if a little happiness comes along, however brief, I think we owe it to ourselves to go for it.