Simon Suraci

What a hottie. Shows he’s in Denver, not Dallas. Maybe a frequently traveling masseur? Would like some intel as well.

I’ve seen Marc at his place in Dallas. Nice guy, attractive. His pics make his body look kind of weird and shorter than he actually is, can’t put my finger on why, but he looks better in person. As for the massage, he gives a more slow, sensual style massage. Very enjoyable. I won’t repeat since I prefer a more deep tissue sports style massage, but I can recommend him for a good long, unrushed sensual massage session. For extras, PM me. His apartment is ok, nothing special, pretty basic. He does photography on the side.

I posted this rimming guide to the Face Sitting Session forum in response to a request there, but I realized this may be the most appropriate place to put it. I love rimming and consider myself a pro. You’re welcome, in advance. Here’s my short little rimming pocket guide 😆 Is there a gay man’s cosmo mag I can write shit like this for? I’m thinking article title: “21 tips to drive his hole wild”, or something like that. Rimming 101 1. Cleanliness. Be sure the rimmee is clean and prepared so there’s no anxiety about it. If either of you prefer natural, musky, sweaty, or not cleaned out at all, have good communication beforehand to get on the same page. 2. Foreplay. Get warmed up and build up some anticipation. Do not rush. Kiss, touch, oral (cocks), nipples, stimulate erogenous zones, neck, ears, pits, whatever gets both of you going. 3. Control. The rimmer should initiate rimming. Move your partner’s body, even throw him around a bit if you like. Indicate with your body language that his hole is yours and you’re taking it. Assuming you’ve both worked out some mutual consent beforehand. 4. Position. Some enjoy doggie style or 69 style rimming. These are fine to mix it up, but they offer less access and a suboptimal angle. You’re fighting to get in there to the best places. The first and primary position I recommend is with the rimmee on their back, at the edge of a bed or comfortable horizontal surface. A sling works well too. The important thing is both of you are comfortable, and the rimmer’s body is lower than the rimmee’s. Don’t strain your neck getting low. Raise your partner to a comfortable level and consider bolstering their pelvis with a pillow. You’re going to be in this position for a while and you don’t want to be preoccupied with fucking up your neck. You might also consider a knee pillow or something to cushion your knees. 5. Do not neglect his balls. Start with the taint and scrotum, and return to them periodically. Take advantage of how sensitive his scrotum is right off the bat and apply light pressure with your tongue, almost like running your fingertips over his body. This will drive him crazy. Run your tongue all the way up to the side of his cock and around each side of his scrotum. Then run down the taint and back up the middle of the scrotum. At points, return to this technique throughout the rimming session. It feels better and better the more turned on he gets. Vary the pressure at times, using your whole tongue with heavier pressure, and then medium, then light. Vary with using just the tip of your tongue. 6. Avoid over stimulating the opening or going inside too deep or too often. A lot of men just shove their tongue directly into the opening and try to worm their way inside. Do NOT do this. Rimming is a dance, a tease, and an extended buildup of pleasure. It’s all about anticipation, not arrival. By all means you can do the worm move, but use it sparingly, as a surprise, an accent, a flourish, not the main thing. It quickly gets repetitive and boring on its own, and you tend to overstimulate that way. 7. Magic button. This is the secret to mindblowing rimming sessions. For spatial reference, he’s lying on his back now, and you’re kneeling in front of him. Men have a very sensitive point above their opening, at the base of their taint. You can find it by running your tongue above their opening and finding some muscles running just to either side of it in a downward V shape. For those of you familiar with finding a clitoris, it’s not that far removed of a process, except there’s nothing sticking out to draw out. You have to find it buried within the tissue, almost like giving a deep tissue massage. (Damn, I’m good at my job!) The button is at the top of that V point, close to the outer edge of sensitive skin surrounding the hole, but still within it. It’s not inside the opening. Go above the opening. It takes a lot of practice finding the button. Don’t be discouraged. Practice, practice, practice. 8. Once you’ve found the magic button, press with the tip of your tongue into it. Vary your pressure from heavy to light. Maintain firm pressure, then release, then barely touch it. Switch up your stimulation techniques. Tickle it, tease it. Try everything you can to stimulate in just a little different way, and keep changing it. Vary your patterns and switch it up. The button is a powerful sensation point, but just like the glans penis, it’s not everything. Come back to it regularly but please keep a balance of stimulating ALL the areas around his hole. Do not overstimulate any one spot. That is KEY to your success. 9. Use your breath. Suck in air slowly, and then rapidly. Concentrate it in a small opening in your lips, or over your whole open mouth, and everything in between. When you suck in air, it cools the surface of his skin. It’s quite stimulating, especially when combined with other techniques at the same time or one right after the other. Similarly, slowly exhaling warm air will stimulate him in a little different way. The contrast between warm and cool is mesmerizing. Controlled breathing can even be part of your tantric practice if you want to incorporate it with your rimming skills. You can almost go into a trance. 10. Use your hair. If you have a beard, use it to your advantage. Push your chin up into the bowl of his hole and run it up and over across the taint and onto his balls. Use this technique periodically and return to it here and there. If your facial hair is particularly coarse, soften it with beard oil and conditioning products. Nobody wants steel wool on their asshole. If you have stubble, be VERY careful. It’s a hazard with rimming because you can get carried away in the moment and scratch him inadvertently. It really hurts. Stubble can be nice when used in a controlled way, but generally does not feel good on sensitive skin, especially for extended periods. If your chin is smooth or freshly shaven, use it similarly as mentioned above. It’s a different sensation but equally good to provide some variety. If you have long hair on your head, incorporate that stimulation into your routine. 11. Use your nose. Yup, that’s right. Don’t laugh, it’s seriously a great technique. Run your nose up and down, all over. Do the same breath techniques already mentioned, but through your nostrils. Press your nose directly into his opening. You don’t need to fuck him this way, just use pressure. It’s kind of like frottage in that way. Use your nose as a way to provide more and varied pressure everywhere, including the taint. Come back to using your nose here and there, but not for a long time at a stretch. As with any of these tips, do a little bit of everything. See what drives him crazy, see what sticks. Then withhold it from him and surprise him with it later…so much so that he squeals and begs! 12. Use your tongue. Obviously. What is not so obvious is to maintain variety. Use your whole broad tongue up from the ass crack all the way over his hole, up over his taint, past his balls, and lick his cock. Then try medium pressure, or less tongue contact, or just the tip, or light contact. Try slow, like VERY slow. That drives him nuts. Occasionally go faster, but not for the majority or for a long stretch. Too many men try to go too fast for too long. It’s too fucking much! Just calm down and take your time. It’s not a race. Please avoid: tickling and swaying with the tip of your tongue the way Eastern European porn actors kiss. It’s annoying. Be more intentional. Get more creative. 13. Involve his cheeks. Lightly bite or lick his ass cheeks. Use your hands. Rub your beard or chin against them. The hole is not everything. Cheek play provides more variety and more stimulation. 14. Hold his legs. Check in regularly. Sometimes he needs a break for his legs. Rimming can’t go forever otherwise he’s too raw. Find the right limit for you both, and don’t be afraid to move on to something else and come back to rimming later. Often rimming is foreplay leading to penetration, but it’s a worthwhile activity on it’s own. 15. Spread his cheeks. But not the whole time. Use this technique as another form of variety. The sensation is slightly different when you do this. Even better with the contrast of not doing it and then returning to it later. 16. Vary your motions. Try spelling something with letters across his hole, or whatever it takes to get you to avoid making the same dull motions over and over. Avoid too much monotony. Every 30 seconds change at least one item from the above list, by adding, changing, or taking away. Variety is paramount to your success. 17. Stimulate his cock. Rimming is about his hole, not his cock. However, feel free to add a little cock stimulation, a little lick, a little stroke, a little brush. This can be pretty sexy and gives more variety. If he’s hard, you might consider stroking him. If he’s soft, don’t worry, it’s completely normal and more typical for him to be flaccid. He can still be extremely turned on in this state, so do not take that as an indication of your success. His breathing, moaning, arching, verbal affirmations, and so on also tell you you’re both on your way to bliss. 18. Ditch the underwear. It’s sexy beforehand, but you need full access. Not just jockstrap level openness. You need the whole damn buffet on display to work your magic. Use all the tools in your box and use the whole box laid out in front of you, not just one corner. And if the box is only half open, rip off whatever is in your way and proceed with passion. 19. Most importantly, love what you do. If you’re not into it, it shows. [good] Rimming is not for everyone, certainly not the faint of heart. If you’re not into it, please save your partner the annoyance of performing a half-assed rim job, pun intended. 20. When he begs you to fuck him, you know you’re doing something right. 21. Advanced technique ***approach with extreme caution***: Biting the magic button. If and only if, and when you master the magic button, experiment with biting it. By that, I mean in a very controlled way. Softly. Think of the way you might nibble on someone’s earlobe, or maybe their nipples, but not hard like some guys enjoy their nipples tortured. Please do not attempt without consent, or without mastering the magic button. If you are not sure you have, you most definitely have not mastered the magic button. It takes a long time and lots of practice to even find it, much less master it. If you manage to do all of that, then consider experimenting with some light, controlled biting. It places pressure in a concentrated point where extreme pleasure is centered. Do not do this for an extended time. Only a little nip for a few seconds here and there. That’s all you need. It’s the cherry on top, not a scoop below.

@liubit Here’s my short little rimming pocket guide 😆 Is there a gay man’s cosmo mag I can write shit like this for? I’m thinking article title: “21 tips to drive his hole wild”, or something like that. Rimming 101 1. Cleanliness. Be sure the rimmee is clean and prepared so there’s no anxiety about it. If either of you prefer natural, musky, sweaty, or not cleaned out at all, have good communication beforehand to get on the same page. 2. Foreplay. Get warmed up and build up some anticipation. Do not rush. Kiss, touch, oral (cocks), nipples, stimulate erogenous zones, neck, ears, pits, whatever gets both of you going. 3. Control. The rimmer should initiate rimming. Move your partner’s body, even throw him around a bit if you like. Indicate with your body language that his hole is yours and you’re taking it. Assuming you’ve both worked out some mutual consent beforehand. 4. Position. Some enjoy doggie style rimming. This is fine to mix it up, but it offers less access and a suboptimal angle. You’re fighting to get in there to the best places. The first and primarily position I recommend is with the rimmee in their back, at the edge of a bed or comfortable horizontal surface. A sling works well too. The important thing is both of you are comfortable, and the rimmer’s body is lower than the rimmee’s. Don’t strain your neck getting low. Raise your partner to a comfortable level and consider bolstering their pelvis with a pillow. You’re going to be in this position for a while and you don’t want to be preoccupied with fucking up your neck. You might also consider a knee pillow or something to cushion your knees. 5. Do not neglect his balls. Start with the taint and scrotum, and return to them periodically. Take advantage of how sensitive his scrotum is right off the bat and apply light pressure with your tongue, almost like running your fingertips over his body. This will drive him crazy. Run your tongue all the way up to the side of his cock and around each side of his scrotum. Then run down the taint and back up the middle of the scrotum. At points, return to this technique throughout the rimming session. It feels better and better the more turned on he gets. Vary the pressure at times, using your whole tongue with heavier pressure, and then medium, then light. Vary with using just the tip of your tongue. 6. Avoid over stimulating the opening or going inside too deep or too often. A lot of men just shove their tongue directly into the opening and try to worm their way inside. Do NOT do this. Rimming is a dance, a tease, and an extended buildup of pleasure. It’s all about anticipation, not arrival. By all means you can do the worm move, but use it sparingly, as a surprise, an accent, a flourish, not the main thing. It quickly gets repetitive and boring on its own, and you tend to overstimulate that way. 7. Magic button. This is the secret to mindblowing rimming sessions. For spatial reference, he’s lying on his back now, and you’re kneeling in front of him. Men have a very sensitive point above their opening, at the base of their taint. You can find it by running your tongue above their opening and finding some muscles running just to either side of it in a downward V shape. For those of you familiar with finding a clitoris, it’s not that far removed of a process, except there’s nothing sticking out to draw out. You have to find it buried within the tissue, almost like giving a deep tissue massage. (Damn, I’m good at my job!) The button is at the top of that V point, close to the outer edge of sensitive skin surrounding the hole, but still within it. It’s not inside the opening. Go above the opening. It takes a lot of practice finding the button. Don’t be discouraged. Practice, practice, practice. 8. Once you’ve found the magic button, press with the tip of your tongue into it. Vary your pressure from heavy to light. Maintain firm pressure, then release, then barely touch it. Switch up your stimulation techniques. Tickle it, tease it. Try everything you can to stimulate in just a little different way, and keep changing it. Vary your patterns and switch it up. The button is a powerful sensation point, but just like the glans penis, it’s not everything. Come back to it regularly but please keep a balance of stimulating ALL the areas around his hole. Do not overstimulate any one spot. That is KEY to your success. 9. Use your breath. Suck in air slowly, and then rapidly. Concentrate it in a small opening in your lips, or over your whole open mouth, and everything in between. When you suck in air, it cools the surface of his skin. It’s quite stimulating, especially when combined with other techniques at the same time or one right after the other. Similarly, slowly exhaling warm air will stimulate him in a little different way. The contrast between warm and cool is mesmerizing. Controlled breathing can even be part of your tantric practice if you want to incorporate it with your rimming skills. You can almost go into a trance. 10. Use your hair. If you have a beard, use it to your advantage. Push your chin up into the bowl of his hole and run it up and over across the taint and onto their balls. Use this technique periodically and return to it here and there. If your facial hair is particularly coarse, soften it with beard oil and conditioning products. Nobody wants steel wool on their asshole. If you have stubble, be VERY careful. It’s a hazard with rimming because you can get carried away in the moment and scratch him inadvertently. It really hurts. Stubble can be nice when used in a controlled way, but generally does not feel good on sensitive skin, especially for extended periods. If your chin is smooth or freshly shaven, use it similarly as mentioned above. It’s a different sensation but equally good to provide some variety. If you have long hair on your head, incorporate that stimulation into your routine. 11. Use your nose. Yup, that’s right. Don’t laugh, it’s seriously a great technique. Run your nose up and down, all over. Do the same breath techniques already mentioned, but through your nostrils. Press your nose directly into his opening. You don’t need to fuck him this way, just use pressure. It’s kind of like frottage in that way. Use your nose as a way to provide more and varied pressure everywhere, including the taint. Come back to the nose here and there, but not for a long time at a stretch. As with any of these tips, do a little bit of everything. See what drives him crazy, see what sticks. Then withhold it from him and surprise him with it later…so much so that he squeals and begs! 12. Use your tongue. Obviously. What is not so obvious is to maintain variety. Use your whole broad tongue up from the ass crack all the way over his hole, up over his taint, past his balls, and lick his cock. Then try medium pressure, or less tongue contact, or just the tip, or light contact. Try slow, like VERY slow. That drives him nuts. Occasionally go faster, but not for the majority or for a long stretch. Too many men try to go too fast for too long. It’s too fucking much! Just calm down and take your time. It’s not a race. Please avoid: tickling and swaying with the tip of your tongue the way Eastern European porn actors kiss. It’s annoying. Be more intentional. Get more creative. 13. Involve his cheeks. Lightly bite or lick his ass cheeks. Rub your beard or chin again them. The hole is not everything. Cheek play provides more variety and more stimulation. 14. Hold his legs. Check in regularly. Sometimes he needs a break for his legs. Rimming can’t go forever otherwise he’s too raw. Find the right limit for you both, and don’t be afraid to move on to something else and come back to rimming later. Often rimming is foreplay leading to penetration, but it’s a worthwhile activity on it’s own. 15. Spread his cheeks. But not the whole time. Use this technique as another form of variety. The sensation is slightly different when you do this. Even better with the contrast of not doing it and then returning to it later. 16. Vary your motions. Try spelling something with letters across his hole, or whatever it takes to get you to avoid making the same dull motions over and over. Avoid too much monotony. Every 30 seconds change at least one item from the above list, by adding, changing, or taking away. Variety is paramount to your success. 17. Stimulate his cock. Rimming is about his hole, not his cock. However, feel free to add a little cock stimulation, a little lick, a little stroke, a little brush. This can be pretty sexy and gives more variety. If he’s hard, you might consider stroking him. If he’s soft, don’t worry, it’s completely normal and more typical for him to be flaccid. He can still be extremely turned on in this state, so do not take that as an indication of your success. His breathing, moaning, arching, verbal affirmations, and so on also tell you you’re both on your way to bliss. 18. Ditch the underwear. It’s sexy beforehand, but you need full access. Not just jockstrap level openness. You need the whole damn buffet on display to work your magic. Use all the tools in your box and use the whole box laid out in front of you, not just one corner. And if the box is only half open, rip off whatever is in your way and proceed with passion. 19. Most importantly, love what you do. If you’re not into it, it shows. [good] Rimming is not for everyone, certainly not the faint of heart. If you’re not into it, please just save your partner the annoyance of performing a half-assed rim job, pun intended. 20. When he begs you to fuck him, you know you’re doing something right. 21. Advanced technique ***approach with extreme caution*** Biting the magic button. If and only if, and when you master the magic button, experiment with biting it. By that I mean in a very controlled way. Softly. Think of the way you might nibble on someone’s earlobe, or maybe their nipples, but not hard like some guys enjoy their nipples tortured. Please do not attempt without consent, or without mastering the magic button. If you are not sure you have, you most definitely have not mastered the magic button. It takes a long time and lots of practice to even find it, much less master it. If you manage to do all of that, then consider experimenting with some light, controlled biting. It places pressure in a concentrated point where extreme pleasure is centered. Do not do this for an extended time. Only a little nip for a few seconds here and there. That’s all you need. It’s the cherry on top, not a scoop below.

Dare I say with plenty of confidence and receipts to match: I’m an expert rimmer and I love it. It’s my best talent…and I’m good at a lot of things! I’ve made some men cum that way before, even hands free from time to time. Understood that face sitting can be more than, or different than, just rimming. Also, it’s a specific position for rimming. My best position is with the receiver on their back, on the edge of a bed or other comfortable surface, preferably with a pillow to bolster their pelvis upward. Some may prefer dirty, ripe, or go more into scat territory. Not yucking those yums, but it’s just not for me. Clean makes for an uninhibited, mindblowing session. When receiving myself, I am particular. You have to know what you’re doing and it’s quite uncommon that someone actually does. Most of the time it’s meh. Or often uncomfortable, boring, or just…bad. Love all the hot pics. Sexy!

I’ve never had a pedicure. Curious to try. I use a pumice stone on my feet and trim/file toenails myself with decent results. Never felt the urge to paint my nails, but not opposed either. Some of my clients get pedicures and/or paint their nails. Having a man do it would be hot, but then I consider how much hard work it is and that this is anything but sexy for him. It’s easy for me to imagine considering my own job. I can’t believe some of them hunch over for so long on a regular basis. No wonder one of them is a client of mine. He’s also Vietnamese. He initiated more with me on the table and then out of nowhere bit me down there. Like, hard. It made me bleed. Had to pause the session for a bandaid and resumed. He felt bad, decided to end it early and pay me. Haven’t heard from him again. Poor thing hasn’t had much experience. In light of all this, I don’t care about gender when getting a pedicure. One day I will try it out.

Agree. Special is a must see show. Very well done, endearing, funny.

I listened to this one in audio format. Very good. Some real heartbreaking stuff in there. Love the Scottish accents and phrases.

Some of my best clients are regulars. Not just because they’re giving me lots of business, of course, but the quality of the interactions. It’s great getting to know someone and keep up with their life and interests. I care a great deal about them and likewise them for me. Those are the special few I really like. I regularly get therapeutic deep tissue massages. Especially because I’m so hard on my body giving them myself. When I find a good masseur who actually listens to my needs and has the skills to address them, they’re worth their weight in gold. My current guy is a big bear type, so that says a lot! I stick with a good one for a long time, usually until one of us moves. That said, I do some market research hiring other masseurs from time to time. Variety is nice. I do it to spark new collaborations, learn new things, and as a backup when my regular is unavailable or I am traveling.

Money is more important to me, because it offers freedom. I lucked out because I enjoy my second career as much as my first, and now I make a realistic living that is no longer essentially paycheck to paycheck. I’m an architect. I worked full time for a decade out of college. I started doing massage because I couldn’t afford some of the things I needed. Then that grew into a serious part time job. Now, many years later it’s my full time gig. I love my work in both fields, but my business exploded after moving to TX and I couldn’t manage both anymore. I make twice as much as my architecture job, and as of 2022 it payed decently. Not like a doctor or lawyer, even though architects go through all the same rigor of state licensing, long degrees, and a multiple year intern process. It’s unfortunate we are so underpaid relative to our value. I would probably stay in the field full time if I made more. Eventually I will go back to design work part time. For now, I’m investing my extra income in a farm, currently rehabbing a neglected avocado grove and expanding the operations. That will be a great supplement to carry through into retirement. I’m passionate about architecture. Knew as a tween that’s what I wanted to do. And I did it. Determined which elite college I wanted to get into and studied my ass off, did not do sports or other activities to make sure I got good grades, took SAT prep courses, the works. I’m not particularly smart, but I am dedicated, hardworking, and focused. My extra curricular activity in high school was working at a civil engineering firm for a few hours after school each day running plans to building departments, printing / reprographics, delivering mail, etc. My dream school accepted me and I worked really hard for the next 5 years, actually 6 - I took an extra year because the engineering courses were so damn hard. The economy was awful during the Great Recession so I worked at a nonprofit and an engineering firm for a while until I found a job in my field.

Correct. I get the basic plan since I advertise massage and only get a few clients here and there from it. RentMen is typically for escort services, so fewer clients seek me out on that platform but they do. If my primary service was escorting, the revenue would justify me investing in an upgraded plan and I would do it.

This is the same guy as AlexNov, previous thread link below. Red flag that he keeps changing his name and cities (unless he’s just traveling?) I got a 4-hand massage from him a few years ago in San Diego with his porn star bf at the time. No massage skills whatsoever, but very attractive. Limited English language, in case that’s important to you, maybe isn’t. YMMV for escort services - I did not hire him for more than massage.

There is no clear-cut, definitive answer to this; it’s different for everyone. I recommend asking for exactly what you want and see who provides it. Or simply hire any of the vetted masseurs with positive comments from other clients posted here on company of men and see what they do. Evaluate a few and keep hiring the providers who best fit your needs.

Wow, what a lively discussion topic! Better communication on both sides would certainly help. If a provider is going to respond at all, he can do the polite thing and explain his minimum session length is X for Y dollars. He did, but in a very blunt way. In this case, I can see why a provider wouldn’t be bothered to respond at all to an off putting request like this, especially if they are in high demand. The industry by and large just doesn’t work the way this client wants. Exceptions on minimum one hour appointments (and good reasons for why that is) are already noted in the thread, but those are exactly that - exceptions. I don’t really care if the client is lying. Bargaining behavior, intentional or otherwise, is a huge red flag. Same thing with begging, asking for pity, inviting the provider into the client’s personal drama, and so on. Still, a good provider will take the high road and give a clear, firm, if not polite, response. I’m not perfectly patient or polite 100% of the time, but I try my best to be professional, straightforward, and courteous…even to a client I’m quite positive I will never see, based on their approach. Sometimes they don’t like the answer. Tough. Clients are paying for experiences, not time. It’s a bit different for massage than escorting, but the concept is the same. If it’s a bad experience that lasted the agreed upon time, the client is still not happy, but they must pay the agreed upon fee. If it’s a good experience and the client decides they want to wrap up early, that’s fine! They still pay the agreed upon fee. The time is more about having boundaries. I watch the clock to manage my time so that I can honor the next client booked right afterward, or any other commitment I have. If I have no hard commitments right after the session and going longer is actually giving more value to the client, I don’t mind going over. I’d rather give the client maximum value and therefore maximum reason to return, refer, review, or tip. By the way, I offer 30 min massages, but they are not full body. People book them here and there. I have a college student client who can’t afford much but loves to see me. He books 30 mins to fit his budget. I massage him and during the session I coach him on techniques to curb his premature ejaculation issues.

Anyone interested in hiring me to tag along for a portion of their stay? And/or massage services? Would be great to meet many of you and chat poolside wearing nothing but a smile and sunscreen. I could use help applying sunscreen.

No, not at all 😊

That’s really messed up. I’m sorry he took advantage of you. It’s commonplace the whole bait-and-switch, then try to extort you in person routine. Many don’t give a massage for the whole time, say 10, 15, 30 mins tops, much less a quality massage. Or even a massage at all! Thank you for reporting him here. He won’t last long if he’s treating people this way. For every one of you, there are probably a handful of others who give in to the extortion tactics, sadly. Otherwise there wouldn’t be a motive or market for this kind of provider behavior. Eventually it will catch up to him, it always does. He’s not a masseur. From his RM profile: “Fitness Model & Content Creator” Be wary of ads like this. They are MODELS, not masseurs. That’s the service, not massage. You’re paying to be in close proximity to someone pretty and/or an influencer somewhat “famous” (not really). He’s similar to a stripper in that sense, except these guys don’t dance or even create a fun atmosphere. He’s used to being put on a pedestal online for his content creation which he curates no doubt together with other hotties. It’s a narcissistic echo chamber. Nothing wrong with creating content and getting paid for it. But there’s a great deal wrong with marketing yourself as a masseur and offering nothing resembling that service, and extortion for promised but not provided services to boot. Seems a stretch to say he doesn’t do xyz. His profile has hole flexing videos for crying out loud! Apparently everything is on offer, but probably only for outrageous prices, I’m sure. Any idea what he was charging for typical escort services? If you’re in San Diego again, come see me. I will give you a high quality massage, be upfront about everything, and follow through on it. No games, no guesswork, no pressured upselling nonsense. FYI I’m moving back there in a few months, in August 2023.

Lol! When this comes up, it’s usually the client who wants to be the little Dutch boy, or some version of it. I keep an open mind…and an open wallet for those that want to pay for exactly what they want!

Posting links to existing related posts: helpful. Scrolling past something you’re uninterested in viewing: go for it! Bemoaning someone using the forums for their intended purpose: not helpful.

Not unusual at all. Very common. Most are too embarrassed to ask. Not every provider offers this, so it’s good to know. Be polite and respectful when asking. Most clients love it even if they don’t ask for it. Only a few truly don’t like it. A lot would like it a lot but they are not clean or prepared for prostate play and so most masseurs won’t go there if they can tell that’s the case. As always, the masseur has to read the room, and the client should definitely indicate verbally or physically that they like something or don’t like it so we don’t waste your session time on stuff you don’t enjoy. Many of my clients have either never had their prostate massaged before or never had it done properly, so they wrongly believe they don’t like it at all or are apprehensive to try it. So many total tops, straight guys, first timers and the like turn into voracious bottoms under my care 😜 🍑 😊. It’s quite common for someone to have a “happy middle” while face down, in addition to, or instead of a HE. Sometimes two happy middles! Something in the air or maybe it’s just my talent! After so many years of experience and consistency therein, I’ve concluded the latter… So yes, I encourage the question, and at least for me it’s a YES (but please be clean for Christ’s sake). I have purpose built shower attachment equipment for anyone who needs it. No excuses. I walk you through everything you need to do for an efficient, thorough, pleasant and healthy preparation experience. And you don’t have to keep the equipment at home - perfect for your discretion and/or convenience. As for other unusual requests, I concede on a case by case basis. Push-ups, no problem. Wear a particular piece of underwear, jock, etc., no big deal. For things requiring a lot of me outside the session like getting underwear dirty and ripe over a few days, I can’t do that. I have to be clean for other clients. If you want me to work out right before, I can’t guarantee my schedule allows for it. If a client books right before you, I’m working, not turning down that opportunity to earn. Any other unusual requests?

Thanks @MikeBiDude. I’ve tinkered with the driving focus feature with limited success in the past. Doesn’t always work, not sure why. Hoping there was some other way I haven’t found yet, but alas probably none yet to date. Appreciate the response! Thank you as well to @mike careyand @Rod Hagen. The trouble with the driving focus method is that it only auto-replies to existing contacts in your phone, not new random numbers. The people I really need the auto reply for is new clients not yet in my phone. They don’t know what to expect, and the auto reply reassures them I will get back asap. Existing clients know I’m reliable and will get back in a timely manner, so it’s not as necessary to auto reply to them. 🤷‍♂️

@MikeBiDude @mike carey @Rod Hagen Do any of you know how to set up auto text replies on an iPhone? I would use this feature to indicate I am working and will get back to someone asap after my current appointment ends, usually within 1-2 hours.

@TectonicThrust you’re welcome! It sounds like you are simply trying to convey in images what might be difficult to put into words to request directly of your provider. It seems like you’re wanting to express the elements you want included rather than reenact the video frame by frame. We deal with this stuff every day. We know what men like and we read body language to figure out what particular buttons to push for each one, because everyone is a little bit different. We can’t read minds though. Far and away, the best way to get those elements you want is to ask for them directly. Use words like rimming, fingering, prostate massage, jerk me off, stimulate my nipples, edge me, and so on and so forth. You can get more descriptive as needed, but really that’s all we need to know. It may be awkward or uncomfortable, but it’s not a big deal. We’re adults. We want you to be happy and therefore be more likely to return, tip, review, and refer. The best way to give you what you want is to know what you want, and for that you have to tell us. The video is not necessarily a bad thing considering your intent. I would caveat by explaining I like “x” or can you include “y”? And then point out specific things. That way we’re not interpreting that you want a reenactment of the whole porn style massage. You could use the video to help you talk through the elements you want to incorporate. If that helps you find the words, go for it. If your provider doesn’t offer a particular thing, better to know that upfront. Likewise if he does offer it, but possibly for an extra fee, or under his escort rate, best to work that out before you begin. It may be included, but now he knows just what to do to please you. Ask for what you want. It’s not as scary or complicated as you might imagine. We’re professionals. We won’t clutch our pearls.

So. Many. Opinions. Where do I even begin? 1. This is NOT a massage. It’s an escort session based around a massage “scene”. If your provider is charging regular massage rates for this, you’re getting discount sex work. Good for you. Bad for me because it places an expectation on the rest of us to provide discount sex work. Therefore, I do not recommend sending a video to your masseur, unless he is also an escort. If the video is what you want, that’s fine, just pay an escort an escort rate to do it. Inspector Clouseau is to a detective what a porn performer is to an actual skilled massage provider. 2. You’re settling for less. By sticking to a porn script, you’re missing out on some really good legit massages that are worth the fee AND in many cases still provide some of the same erotic elements on top of that, depending on the provider. There’s no massage skill here; it’s literally running his hands across the client’s body with no pressure and 5 mins later playing with his hole, with more sexual play to follow until you’re done. There’s nothing therapeutic going on here. 3. Unrealistic scope. The whole massage is 30 mins including the porn interview intro. Most massages are an hour or more to cover each area of the body. Many masseurs do exactly this kind of 30 min rub and tug routine and charge you for an hour. There’s a market for it and it sounds like you definitely are that market. That’s why we have so many guys advertising with no skill and charging the same or sometimes more than guys with quite a lot of skill. Nothing wrong with that when you know exactly what you’re getting and paying sex work rates for it, but please do not expect every provider to follow a porn script. This stuff is made for cameras, depicting fantasy, and getting off. It’s one of a genre videos that portray with gross inaccuracy what happens during a good legit massage, even a good erotic oriented massage. You deserve so much better for your coin! 4. Routine has little structure. Masseurs have a routine they adjust sightly based on client needs. We carefully craft our routines to cover your whole body, fit within the timeframe, and give you maximum therapeutic benefits. It’s best to tell your massage therapist in person exactly what you want, both erotic preferences and regular therapeutic things like sciatic pain, sore hamstrings, etc., so we can adjust and pace accordingly before the massage begins. Saying so in person leaves no record should a legal issue arise. Clients are coy about asking directly for what they want, so I understand that is a big ask. Still best if you can manage it. I would be hard pressed to abandon my entire routine, watch a video and try to recreate it. It’s forcing life to imitate art, and the art is a fantasy version of real life. Why not enjoy the source inspiration material from real life? It’s so much better. 5. More exciting not knowing. Part of the fun is not always knowing exactly what will happen, when, how, and so on. To each their own on that point. If you know exactly what you’re getting, there’s merit to that approach too. I recommend telling your masseur what elements you want, and not making him scrap his whole base routine to copy someone else’s script. 6. The rest of these are just peeves I’m sure nobody here cares about, but I’ll mention them anyway: 7. Baby oil is an amateur, common porn trope. Slathering it on, pouring repeatedly from the bottle and so on. There is no need for so much oil. This is not how we work. A good therapist will use quality products, and in the appropriate amount. 8. That table is way too low. To give appropriate pressure, I would have to bend and hunch over for an hour or more at a stretch, multiple times a day. That would wreck my back and put me out of work. PSA to other masseurs out there: use the right height for your body and work style. Your back will thank you. 9. Massage therapists and masseurs are not “masseuses”. This is the feminine form. Opinions vary on what massage therapists want to be called. A lot of us in the gay massage industry call ourselves masseurs, which includes untrained folks. Others may prefer massage practitioner or certified massage therapist, depending on norms and laws in their local jurisdiction, and training status. In any case, please stop using the feminine form. I never correct clients, but take it from me, being called a ‘masseuse’ is annoying and off putting, maybe even offensive to some. 10. Very, very few people on our tables look like the guys in these massage porn videos. Remember that when you fantasize your masseur will react the exact same way to your body as the actors playing the masseur roles do in these videos. If he does, tip him well. That’s some damn good acting.

^THIS. I get so many messages from potential clients exactly like those examples from @Jamie21. The client inquires and then ghosts. Some of them do the same thing weeks or months later, and ghost again. Sometimes multiple times. I still respond politely and in a timely manner, every time, because it’s my job. Dealing with this stuff is part of the work, and not letting the frustration get to me. A lot of providers just don’t have the patience for it.