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I had an escort tell me I was way to muscular for him. That did it. I immediately stopped going to gym, ate spaghetti until I was unconscious and had ice cream fed to me intravenously. Soon enough, I was the man you see before you now. No more rejections for being too muscly or too good looking. Most escorts simply murmur just loud enough for me to hear: "Oh good, he has lost that hideously perfect body.
I tipped the scale at 230 and then tipped it back to weigh the rest of me.
At some point we have to grow up and realize that we are not Vin Marco. Most of us are droolers I am sure the droolees are glad we are out there.

Thanks for your responses! I emailed the escort and he assured me that he's ok with it, and that the experience is for me to relax and enjoy myself. I'll let you all know how it goes.

Questions regarding escorts reactions to client’s age, ethnicity, and weight are constantly coming up on this site. The solution is really quite simple. At an early stage of communication with an escort upload him regarding age, physical appearance, activity level and sexual likes and dislikes. I always provide this information to an escort I’m interest in hiring and conclude by asking him to contact me if none of the information is a problem for him. I’m 75 and if the guy I’m communicating with doesn’t want to play with someone my age he simply doesn’t have to respond -- this has happened ONLY once and at that time I was in my 60’s.
 
The ABSOLUTE KEY to having a successful get together with any escort is ALWAYS honest COMMUNICATION.

That night !!???
 
 

I loved the rope and I hated it at the same time. I couldn't for the life of me climb that thing, but I sure did enjoy watching the hot jocks in my class do it. It was a spectacular view from below.

New questions:
1 - is it normal for grindr guys to give hickeys in the heat of the moment?
2 - how do you hide a hickey from your husband?

I am fully reconciled with Grinder today!
 
I’ll let you guess why.
 
That ATM emoji works.

Paying for sex is illegal. But taking a page from the Trump playbook what if after the client and escort have sex the client hands the escort the money and says "I'm not paying you for sex. I'm paying not to tell anyone that we had sex.". Would that work?

Though I've been a steady regular at the gym for years with no more than a 3 week hiatus, I did find what helped for me was to leave the big conglomerate warehouse gyms, and switch to a smaller gym. But not local, small gyms because I travel and need to be able to access the same gym all over America. Small in size, but national in coverage. The Walgreens and CVS of gyms.
 
I started at Bally, they were bought out by 24 Hour fitness. I now go to Anytime fitness, and I love them. Planet fitness is okay, but they're not everywhere like Anytime fitness. There's been times I would pull off the interstate in the middle of nowhere, and sure enough there was an Anytime fitness. I didn't have that freedom with 24 hour fitness.
 
Granted, their weights aren't as expansive as 24 hour, LA fitness, and maybe Golds...but who needs all that? I'm am escort/masseur...not training for the NFL. I get the workout I need, plus it forces me to specialize on muscle groups, and stay in the gym no longer than 90 minutes, versus being tempted to do long, overtraining workouts with every machine at my disposal.
 
I wish gyms were a bit more cruisey friendly though. I know some people who can make it work for them, but I usually end up hitting on the wrong people and feeling dumb and embarrassed in the process, so I rarely ever do it anymore. I’ve exchanged numbers with guys several times from the gym, only for them to not realize I was hitting on them and never saw them again lol. Couple of times I’ve run into guys from the gym at the gay bars...and the gyms weren’t even gay nor did they give off a vibe lol.
 
I did meet a client tell me recently (he's MWM to a woman and has kids) that one of his fuck buddies happened to be a Black dude who showed him his dick in the shower at his gym. Some people are just good at that kind of thing, but I'd feel a bit thirsty and perverted. I rather stick to gay bars, apps, and escort sites for my sexual ventures.

You're the pro in the room, he's just there to relax and have fun. If you notice the first hour has ended and it looks like things aren't wrapping up, it's the pro's job to say something like "would you like to go for a second hour?".
 
Kevin Slater

Oh, right, clearly the now 60-something woman who told me this was disgusted by it at the time. It was, much like with Levine, a cult-like following with a very famous virtuoso with a forceful personality and pride in his sexual prowess. The combination of that hero-worship and the ethos of the sexual revolution was toxic.
 
In music conservatories, student/teacher sexual relationships were not something the majority of faculty participated in, but there certainly were plenty. Most were with graduate students, and most of the faculty were men getting or already divorced.
 
And then there were the stories about students running into faculty and staff at the baths back in the pre-AIDS days, which is kind of like, I suppose, what happens now on Grindr (faculty/staff and students encountering each other).

Every Shave With Olive Oil?
 
Nope, but I've douched with Popeye.
 
Kevin Slater

Exactly! Look, I’m a client. I pay for an escort’s time. Usually what I want to do with most of that time ... well, it isn’t talking.
 
There are a lot of people I do business with that I enjoy working with, but you’d have to pay me to have lunch or dinner with them.
 
In any professional relationship, two people may connect and decide to share a meal. Sometimes escorts will accept a meal after a session, and in those cases it would be because the escort actually enjoys being with the client outside of that work zone.
 
A meal off the clock before a first session? Doubt that ever happens, or if it does, only rarely.

I have to stop skimming these boards. I got all excited because I thought it said "Large Hardon Collider." ;(

Thank you for posting this. Absolutely brilliant...

I want to take that professor to dinner! Beautifully written response to ignorance.

At my previous job I worked with a guy who was notorious for very long emails. Nice guy, good at his job, but could never write concisely. The "not reading past the first few lines" attitude is even worse at my current job, I have to work extra hard on my emails here.

I work in classical music. I studied at Juilliard in the 1970s--there were tons of rumors about him then.
 
Back in the aftermath of the sexual revolution, there was nothing like today's clarity regarding power imbalances. Sexual relationships between teachers and students were not the norm, but certainly a widespread phenomenon that was pretty much accepted. Blair Tindall's book "Mozart in the Jungle," the inspiration for the Amazon series, describes how pervasive this was at the North Carolina School of the Arts, where she attended high school, as well as in New York conservatories. (In NC, there were plenty of affairs between faculty and high school students, no rules against it, and a very, very low age of consent.)
 
So we just rolled our eyes, I think, and of course most of us only heard gossip. And we'd hear gossip about all sorts of people, some of which we knew wasn't true.
 
Those 60s/70s ideas of sexual freedom blinded a lot of people to damage we now recognize as a culture. I remember that in the late 70s, anyway, NAMBLA (the "North American Man/Boy Love Association," I think) was an accepted part of some gay pride parades and part of the movement. Some people thought that minors should have the freedom to have sexual relationships with older men.
 
I doubt I could name all the big-name musicians who taught at major conservatories who had sexual relations with their students, and at the time everyone more or less accepted it as just the way it was. There was a famous virtuoso at one big midwestern university whose female students were, one of them later told me, like a kind of harem for him. And the young women, or some of them, competed to be the one he slept with.
 
Our standards have changed so much!
 
Meanwhile, Levine's chickens have come home to roost. And the idea that people at the Met didn't know anything, and didn't somehow enable all this, just seems absurd to me. Everyone in the classical music/opera profession was sure all sorts of stuff was going on.

In “Ask an Escort,” there was a recent thread about an email sent by a prospective client to an escort. The escort thought it was overly long and shared it with another client who thought it was ridiculous/humorous, and shared it with us. As part of the long ensuing discussion, I mentioned that I work in academia and that I wish more of the emails and memos I read were as short as the anxiously verbose email that prompted the discussion.
 
Here’s an example of what I was referring to. It’s an exchange betweeen anonymous law school students who objected to a professor wearing a #blacklivesmatter shirt and their (white) professor.
 
http://www.pajiba.com/miscellaneous/law-professor-absolutely-destroys-student-letter-protesting-her-wearing-a-black-lives-matter-tshirt.php#.Wptx3urH2gk.facebook

In “Ask an Escort,” there was a recent thread about an email sent by a prospective client to an escort. The escort thought it was overly long and shared it with another client who thought it was ridiculous/humorous, and shared it with us. As part of the long ensuing discussion, I mentioned that I work in academia and that I wish more of the emails and memos I read were as short as the anxiously verbose email that prompted the discussion.
 
Here’s an example of what I was referring to. It’s an exchange betweeen anonymous law school students who objected to a professor wearing a #blacklivesmatter shirt and their (white) professor.
 
http://www.pajiba.com/miscellaneous/law-professor-absolutely-destroys-student-letter-protesting-her-wearing-a-black-lives-matter-tshirt.php#.Wptx3urH2gk.facebook

I read the whole thing. I'm in love with that professor.

In “Ask an Escort,” there was a recent thread about an email sent by a prospective client to an escort. The escort thought it was overly long and shared it with another client who thought it was ridiculous/humorous, and shared it with us. As part of the long ensuing discussion, I mentioned that I work in academia and that I wish more of the emails and memos I read were as short as the anxiously verbose email that prompted the discussion.
 
Here’s an example of what I was referring to. It’s an exchange betweeen anonymous law school students who objected to a professor wearing a #blacklivesmatter shirt and their (white) professor.
 
http://www.pajiba.com/miscellaneous/law-professor-absolutely-destroys-student-letter-protesting-her-wearing-a-black-lives-matter-tshirt.php#.Wptx3urH2gk.facebook

It's a lot more complicated if you studying for an advance degree, and the sexual relationship is with someone who will be questioning you on your thesis.

When I lived in NYC in the 1970s and 80s, I knew a number of people with connections at Lincoln Center, and heard lots of stories about the administration of the Met repeatedly having to bail Levine out from sexual escapades, including arrests in public men's rooms. I find the declarations of the current administration that they knew nothing until recently completely unbelievable.

I work in classical music. I studied at Juilliard in the 1970s--there were tons of rumors about him then.
 
Back in the aftermath of the sexual revolution, there was nothing like today's clarity regarding power imbalances. Sexual relationships between teachers and students were not the norm, but certainly a widespread phenomenon that was pretty much accepted. Blair Tindall's book "Mozart in the Jungle," the inspiration for the Amazon series, describes how pervasive this was at the North Carolina School of the Arts, where she attended high school, as well as in New York conservatories. (In NC, there were plenty of affairs between faculty and high school students, no rules against it, and a very, very low age of consent.)
 
So we just rolled our eyes, I think, and of course most of us only heard gossip. And we'd hear gossip about all sorts of people, some of which we knew wasn't true.
 
Those 60s/70s ideas of sexual freedom blinded a lot of people to damage we now recognize as a culture. I remember that in the late 70s, anyway, NAMBLA (the "North American Man/Boy Love Association," I think) was an accepted part of some gay pride parades and part of the movement. Some people thought that minors should have the freedom to have sexual relationships with older men.
 
I doubt I could name all the big-name musicians who taught at major conservatories who had sexual relations with their students, and at the time everyone more or less accepted it as just the way it was. There was a famous virtuoso at one big midwestern university whose female students were, one of them later told me, like a kind of harem for him. And the young women, or some of them, competed to be the one he slept with.
 
Our standards have changed so much!
 
Meanwhile, Levine's chickens have come home to roost. And the idea that people at the Met didn't know anything, and didn't somehow enable all this, just seems absurd to me. Everyone in the classical music/opera profession was sure all sorts of stuff was going on.