Ali Gator

I wouldn't tip a Rabbi, either. 

The second one has been posting in RI for the past few weeks. I'm curious, but on Rentmen it looks like he's really pushing his OF page in his ad.  
 
EDIT - it looks like he removed his RentMen ad and is just running this one as of this morning...
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He's there to be your companion during your trip, plain and simple. You have hired him to do so and you're paying all expenses. You are paying for both his time and his presence during your weekend excursion, whether he realizes this or not. BTW, this is usually spelled out in every single Rentmen ad: Payment is for time and companionship ONLY (what may go on between the two of you during that time is agreed upon by two consenting adults). His companionship is being paid for the full weekend - not the time on 'his terms'.
Remember: You are not traveling as friends, this is a business arrangement and money is being spent on him. The agreement is not for just having dinner and sex - it's for him to keep you company.  (If you were traveling with a friend, and the friend was paying his own expenses, then he would have the option to do whatever he feels like for the weekend, and not follow instructions from you).
If you want to lounge by the pool from morning to noon, he should be by your side doing the same thing - not left behind in the hotel room sleeping until noon. You are paying for his time to be with you - not leave you alone. If he wants to go to the gym, fine (I'd want my escort to be in top shape with his clothes off, too!) but agree on the time he leaves and when you expect him back - he's working for YOU. If you want to go to the deck and have lunch at 1 pm, he goes with you (whether he's hungry or not) - he's there to keep you company. You don't allow him to say, 'I'm not hungry. You go have lunch and I'll meet you later." He goes with you and sits at the table with you, whether he eats or not (he can sit and have a lemonade and watch you eat a lobster).
IF the provider has any problems with the above, then he should not have taken the job in the frst place since he can't fulfill the requirements of the position - and yes, this is a weekend job, no matter how you slice and dice it. He's getting paid. At the end of the excursion, if he seems like he wasn't enjoying himself YOU DON'T HIRE HIM AGAIN. Move on to someone else who understands the job.
I'm telling you this now, so I don't have to tell you this again. ☺️

Actually, that did happen (sort of) as I finally met up with him today. Finally. After waiting to hear back from him all week.
As I said earlier this week, I reached out to him via text (I ended up texting him twice) and heard nothing back all week. I left it at that - if he was interested in detailing my car, get back to me. I didn't hear from him, so I left it alone. I assumed he was busy or didn't want to do my car. No big deal.
This morning I was outside and he came across to talk to me as he pulled up in front of his house. He apologized for not getting back to me, and said he was 'visiting friends out of state' so this past week wouldn't have worked. He's around the next few days and gave me a price of $150 for detailing, which (of course) he'd do right in my driveway. I was direct with him on that, and told him I would give it more thought as the price was a little more than I thought I'd need to spend on detailing (again, maybe I'm wrong but I was thinking more $100 plus tip.) He was fine with the answer, and seemed to understand.  At that point, I figured before he turned around and went back home, I should ask him about RM - why not ? I considered all the responses here, and agreed with the fact that he's offering his services and I'm a customer looking for his services. It's called business.
'Before you go - I have one more thing to ask you...' So I told him I saw his ad, and I was interested in an appointment with him. He didn't have much of a reaction except the raised eyebrows, and just said, 'OK - Cool'  I told him I didn't need a response now, and  asked if he thought it would be awkward, and I told him I would understand if he said 'No'. He said, ' Awkward? Not at all.' He asked what I was looking for , I told him, and he said with a smile, 'I promise we'll have a good time. Let's do it! When were you thinking ?'  But before we planned a day and time, I needed to know how much he charged and asked him. He quoted me $350 which (once again) was more than I was expecting or budgeted for these encounters (we all have our $ limits). I didn't ask him to lower the price, but I did tell him that was more than what I usually pay for 'this hobby'.  He smiled and told me he was definitely worth it, and I assured him he probably was - but I couldn't do it at this time. He was understanding and told me if I changed my mind to give him a call and he'd be over. 'Nothing awkward' he assured me. He gave me his 'bro hug' and headed back to his house. It went well, overall. 
So to have him detail my car and have an hour appointment with him would set me back $500 minimum. As much as I'd love to employ him, I simply can't afford him at this time for both or either services. I may regret it in the future, but that's $500 I can spend on more important stuff right now, not a hobby or making my car sparkle.  *sigh*

If you have any doubts, then the most logical action is to skip the thread. It's that easy. Your doubts will be put to rest, and no more concerns about being 'jerked around' (my time is valuable - I don't jerk around others, nor do I participate in threads that are not in my interest).
I'm assuming you're a big boy - make some big boy decisions in your best interest. It will be interesting to see what you choose.   

For me, minimum size is 5' 9".
 
I'm talking height, of course. What's between his legs doesn't matter as much, so long as we're just about eye to eye, lips to lips, nips to nips.

Actually, that did happen (sort of) as I finally met up with him today. Finally. After waiting to hear back from him all week.
As I said earlier this week, I reached out to him via text (I ended up texting him twice) and heard nothing back all week. I left it at that - if he was interested in detailing my car, get back to me. I didn't hear from him, so I left it alone. I assumed he was busy or didn't want to do my car. No big deal.
This morning I was outside and he came across to talk to me as he pulled up in front of his house. He apologized for not getting back to me, and said he was 'visiting friends out of state' so this past week wouldn't have worked. He's around the next few days and gave me a price of $150 for detailing, which (of course) he'd do right in my driveway. I was direct with him on that, and told him I would give it more thought as the price was a little more than I thought I'd need to spend on detailing (again, maybe I'm wrong but I was thinking more $100 plus tip.) He was fine with the answer, and seemed to understand.  At that point, I figured before he turned around and went back home, I should ask him about RM - why not ? I considered all the responses here, and agreed with the fact that he's offering his services and I'm a customer looking for his services. It's called business.
'Before you go - I have one more thing to ask you...' So I told him I saw his ad, and I was interested in an appointment with him. He didn't have much of a reaction except the raised eyebrows, and just said, 'OK - Cool'  I told him I didn't need a response now, and  asked if he thought it would be awkward, and I told him I would understand if he said 'No'. He said, ' Awkward? Not at all.' He asked what I was looking for , I told him, and he said with a smile, 'I promise we'll have a good time. Let's do it! When were you thinking ?'  But before we planned a day and time, I needed to know how much he charged and asked him. He quoted me $350 which (once again) was more than I was expecting or budgeted for these encounters (we all have our $ limits). I didn't ask him to lower the price, but I did tell him that was more than what I usually pay for 'this hobby'.  He smiled and told me he was definitely worth it, and I assured him he probably was - but I couldn't do it at this time. He was understanding and told me if I changed my mind to give him a call and he'd be over. 'Nothing awkward' he assured me. He gave me his 'bro hug' and headed back to his house. It went well, overall. 
So to have him detail my car and have an hour appointment with him would set me back $500 minimum. As much as I'd love to employ him, I simply can't afford him at this time for both or either services. I may regret it in the future, but that's $500 I can spend on more important stuff right now, not a hobby or making my car sparkle.  *sigh*

QUESTION: Is it OK to hire your younger neighbor who is advertising on RM ?
BACKGROUND : About 12 years ago, a family moved into the house diagonally across the street from me. Very nice family, very friendly, originally from PR. They have two sons - the oldest (mid-20s) was getting married (so he wasn't in the new house long), and the youngest 'Nick' was attending a local College. Nick was a young, thin man when I first met him, but you could tell he was going to be a heartbreaker as he got older...and he did. Within a few years, he muscled up and cleaned up as he headed off to find a job in marketing. I always enjoyed catching up with him outside, as he had the most penetrating eyes and beautiful smile. And in the summer, with his shirt off standing three feet away - let's just say my dick noticed him, too. 
He moved to Florida to run a car dealership for his cousin, and I always asked his parents how he was doing (as well as the married son, who became a pharma rep).  He was doing great, though neither son came home much as they both lived in Florida so it was easier for the parents to visit them during the year.
Fast Forward to this morning, I'm outside with my dog and I hear someone call out to me. Who is it but Nick, crossing over from his parent's house in nothing but white shorts. 6 feet, beautifully built chest, gorgeous tanned body, muscular arms and legs. The beautiful smile and dark wavy hair. He gives me a 'bro hug' and I almost faint right there. He tells me he's staying here for a few weeks while he considers buying a used car business up for sale, and intends to relocate here if everything goes well (he would find his own place). He's now 32 and wants to start his own business. I'm not really paying attention as he's talking because I'm studying the light trail of hair on his chest, his nipples, his small tattoo above one nipple, the tattoo on his left calf, his facial scruff, etc. WOW! He then says he's taking 'odd jobs' while he's here to make money, including car washing and car detailing if I'm interested. YES! So he gives me his phone number and I tell him I'll call him this week. WOW! WOW! 
A FEW HOURS LATER: This afternoon I'm perusing RM (I was away from it for about 10 days) and there he is - a visiting escort from Florida, in town for a couple of weeks. (Actually, his ad is listed for Boston, but 'near travel' to my city, which is where he actually is!). It is him : same tattoos, same trail of hair, same chest, etc. NO INCALLS - outcalls only (OK by me!). Different phone # than what he gave me. 
Now I plan on calling him this week to detail my car (I think he said $100, plus I'll tip him). Is it appropriate to talk to him about his RM ad, and say I'm interested ? Do I leave it alone and not risk the chance of making it awkward with a friendly neighbor (of course, he can always refuse the job offer, if he's uncomfortable) ? Oh, what to do ? (I appreciate all answers).

His lack of clients. 

If I'm reading this correctly, the $400 was the price pad by a reviewer (his only review so far).  The time spent was over 2 hours (130 minutes) and the type of appointment he had was 'other'. That may also include the tip the client threw in.
The guy lists $200 for an hour therapeutic, $250 for sensual.  So $400 for 170 minutes described as 'other' (and we know what that means) doesn't sound 'off the charts' to me. 

"The NBA is doing its due diligence amid disturbing allegations surrounding Oklahoma City Thunder player Josh Giddey -- the league just announced it is "looking into" claims he had an inappropriate relationship with a minor.
TMZ Sports has confirmed the Association is aware of the rumors that have spread on social media this week ... with photos and videos alluding to Giddey being intimate with a high school girl.
Giddey was asked about the speculation at Thunder practice on Friday ... and he remained tight-lipped."
 
Damn ! He's cute ! 
 
 
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So your day doesn't begin until 1:00 with him, even though you're ready to start your day 6 hours earlier. He's working for you - he needs to start his day with you at 7 am. This is not an ongoing position, it's one weekend or so. He can make the adjustment.
The situation you describe sounds like he's in charge - and he shouldn't be.
 

He's there to be your companion during your trip, plain and simple. You have hired him to do so and you're paying all expenses. You are paying for both his time and his presence during your weekend excursion, whether he realizes this or not. BTW, this is usually spelled out in every single Rentmen ad: Payment is for time and companionship ONLY (what may go on between the two of you during that time is agreed upon by two consenting adults). His companionship is being paid for the full weekend - not the time on 'his terms'.
Remember: You are not traveling as friends, this is a business arrangement and money is being spent on him. The agreement is not for just having dinner and sex - it's for him to keep you company.  (If you were traveling with a friend, and the friend was paying his own expenses, then he would have the option to do whatever he feels like for the weekend, and not follow instructions from you).
If you want to lounge by the pool from morning to noon, he should be by your side doing the same thing - not left behind in the hotel room sleeping until noon. You are paying for his time to be with you - not leave you alone. If he wants to go to the gym, fine (I'd want my escort to be in top shape with his clothes off, too!) but agree on the time he leaves and when you expect him back - he's working for YOU. If you want to go to the deck and have lunch at 1 pm, he goes with you (whether he's hungry or not) - he's there to keep you company. You don't allow him to say, 'I'm not hungry. You go have lunch and I'll meet you later." He goes with you and sits at the table with you, whether he eats or not (he can sit and have a lemonade and watch you eat a lobster).
IF the provider has any problems with the above, then he should not have taken the job in the frst place since he can't fulfill the requirements of the position - and yes, this is a weekend job, no matter how you slice and dice it. He's getting paid. At the end of the excursion, if he seems like he wasn't enjoying himself YOU DON'T HIRE HIM AGAIN. Move on to someone else who understands the job.
I'm telling you this now, so I don't have to tell you this again. ☺️

Because I wrote a paragraph, not a term paper. No need to list 'all my sources'. 
BTW, no apology from you ? Hate admitting you were wrong ? 

From reading this thread and other  threads about provider / client relationships, something tells me that many clients don't communicate with the provider.
Is it intimidation ? Are clients intimidated by the gorgeous muscle guy on the other end of the phone and afraid to speak up and let them know what they are hiring him for ? (Maybe the provider is using his looks / body purposely to distract or intimidate and take over the dynamics of the arrangement ?)
Is it assumption? Do most clients 'assume' the provider knows what is expected of him during the appointment ?
Is it inexperience? Are most clients not experienced in doing business one-on-one and speaking up for what you need ? (And I mean one-on-one with any guy in business for himself:  providers, trainers, housepainters, landscapers, etc.)
Remember - you are the one with cash in your hands, and they're the ones providing a service which you want. All and any of the above can be overcome, so you take control of any situation.
 

He's there to be your companion during your trip, plain and simple. You have hired him to do so and you're paying all expenses. You are paying for both his time and his presence during your weekend excursion, whether he realizes this or not. BTW, this is usually spelled out in every single Rentmen ad: Payment is for time and companionship ONLY (what may go on between the two of you during that time is agreed upon by two consenting adults). His companionship is being paid for the full weekend - not the time on 'his terms'.
Remember: You are not traveling as friends, this is a business arrangement and money is being spent on him. The agreement is not for just having dinner and sex - it's for him to keep you company.  (If you were traveling with a friend, and the friend was paying his own expenses, then he would have the option to do whatever he feels like for the weekend, and not follow instructions from you).
If you want to lounge by the pool from morning to noon, he should be by your side doing the same thing - not left behind in the hotel room sleeping until noon. You are paying for his time to be with you - not leave you alone. If he wants to go to the gym, fine (I'd want my escort to be in top shape with his clothes off, too!) but agree on the time he leaves and when you expect him back - he's working for YOU. If you want to go to the deck and have lunch at 1 pm, he goes with you (whether he's hungry or not) - he's there to keep you company. You don't allow him to say, 'I'm not hungry. You go have lunch and I'll meet you later." He goes with you and sits at the table with you, whether he eats or not (he can sit and have a lemonade and watch you eat a lobster).
IF the provider has any problems with the above, then he should not have taken the job in the frst place since he can't fulfill the requirements of the position - and yes, this is a weekend job, no matter how you slice and dice it. He's getting paid. At the end of the excursion, if he seems like he wasn't enjoying himself YOU DON'T HIRE HIM AGAIN. Move on to someone else who understands the job.
I'm telling you this now, so I don't have to tell you this again. ☺️

From reading this thread and other  threads about provider / client relationships, something tells me that many clients don't communicate with the provider.
Is it intimidation ? Are clients intimidated by the gorgeous muscle guy on the other end of the phone and afraid to speak up and let them know what they are hiring him for ? (Maybe the provider is using his looks / body purposely to distract or intimidate and take over the dynamics of the arrangement ?)
Is it assumption? Do most clients 'assume' the provider knows what is expected of him during the appointment ?
Is it inexperience? Are most clients not experienced in doing business one-on-one and speaking up for what you need ? (And I mean one-on-one with any guy in business for himself:  providers, trainers, housepainters, landscapers, etc.)
Remember - you are the one with cash in your hands, and they're the ones providing a service which you want. All and any of the above can be overcome, so you take control of any situation.
 

He's there to be your companion during your trip, plain and simple. You have hired him to do so and you're paying all expenses. You are paying for both his time and his presence during your weekend excursion, whether he realizes this or not. BTW, this is usually spelled out in every single Rentmen ad: Payment is for time and companionship ONLY (what may go on between the two of you during that time is agreed upon by two consenting adults). His companionship is being paid for the full weekend - not the time on 'his terms'.
Remember: You are not traveling as friends, this is a business arrangement and money is being spent on him. The agreement is not for just having dinner and sex - it's for him to keep you company.  (If you were traveling with a friend, and the friend was paying his own expenses, then he would have the option to do whatever he feels like for the weekend, and not follow instructions from you).
If you want to lounge by the pool from morning to noon, he should be by your side doing the same thing - not left behind in the hotel room sleeping until noon. You are paying for his time to be with you - not leave you alone. If he wants to go to the gym, fine (I'd want my escort to be in top shape with his clothes off, too!) but agree on the time he leaves and when you expect him back - he's working for YOU. If you want to go to the deck and have lunch at 1 pm, he goes with you (whether he's hungry or not) - he's there to keep you company. You don't allow him to say, 'I'm not hungry. You go have lunch and I'll meet you later." He goes with you and sits at the table with you, whether he eats or not (he can sit and have a lemonade and watch you eat a lobster).
IF the provider has any problems with the above, then he should not have taken the job in the frst place since he can't fulfill the requirements of the position - and yes, this is a weekend job, no matter how you slice and dice it. He's getting paid. At the end of the excursion, if he seems like he wasn't enjoying himself YOU DON'T HIRE HIM AGAIN. Move on to someone else who understands the job.
I'm telling you this now, so I don't have to tell you this again. ☺️

50 years ago on June 20, 1975, the 'summer blockbuster' was born. Universal Pictures released a 'thriller' about a deadly shark coasting along a New England beach town, based on the 1974 best-seller by Peter Benchley. (Benchley was cowriter of the screenplay). The director was a largely unknown young man named Steven Spielberg (who had directed one television movie and one thatrical movie before this), who was soon regarded as one of the greatest directors of all time, with most of his movies gaining the title of 'the greatest movies in history'. 
'Jaws' was filmed off the coast of Martha's Vineyard from May - October, 1974 on a budget of $9M.  It would go on to gross nearly half-billion dollars at the box office, and kept millions of movie-goers from swimming in the ocean waters for years to come. Universal Pictures took a major gamble by doing a 'wide release' that day, releasing it to over 400 theaters and drive-ins around the country (never done to that extreme before). They waited until the first day of summer, and heavily promoted it via television, and print ads (magazines and newspapers) for weeks before it opened. By July 25th, it expanded to 700 screens and then 900 screens by August 15 - unheard of for any movie at the time. 

I agree 100% and said so above. What he did was wrong and disrespectful. What Rosie did was worse. And then she tried to spin it when the media bashed her. IIRC Clay had just did an interview with Walters and his sexuality came up (she asked men 'if they wanted to address the gay rumors' often - including Ricky Martin). He deflected from the question. A few months later Rosie outs him on national TV - Walters' show of all places ? Geez, Rosie.
This was a BIG win for Kelly Ripa, and from that day forward she has yet to speak to Rosie, and Rosie still talks about it - "I saw Kelly Ripa at the Broadway opening of XXX last night. I said 'Hey, Kel, how ya doin?' and she walked right by me. She sure can hold a grudge'.
No Rosie - no grudge.  Kelly just doesn't want to associate with you any more. Can't blame her. 

I don't mind when providers contact me, especially if they are traveling and letting me know their schedule. It's helpful to me and good marketing for them.
 

WOWZA!  He's been a member for two years, just one review and nothing comes up on CoM. Any info on this guy ?
 
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Jussie Smollett syndrome.

If the opportunity was ever real.

@Ali Gator sometimes the unknown is more attractive and captivating than the known.  Now that it is clear your neighbour would have no qualms meeting up with you, is it possible the attraction may have dimmed on your side?  Or, could it be that you have some reservations and concerns that go beyond the donation amount?  Perhaps the possibility of awkwardness exists for you, and you anticipated he would not be open to the arrangement for similar reasons?  In any case, each of us operates according to our own priorities.  I would have no right to judge your decision either way, even if it is for purely financial considerations.  Maybe it's for the best that you remain platonic neighbours.  There's nothing wrong with that.  And nothing wrong with sharing all that you've shared here.