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2 hours ago, LAboy said:

This sent me. 😂💀 It is way too early for this.

I honestly don’t know who he is (PrinceCharming). I’ll need to do some research. 🔬 

He was the "Prince Charming" on "Finding Prince Charming," Logo's take on "The Bachelor."

Here are some past threads on him: 

I thought there were more threads about him, but that's all I could find. 

Guess the "lifestyle brand" and candles didn't work out for him.

53 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

Chicagoan here:  Chicago is and always has been in the top 5 (in my lifetime, at least).

It's not considered a second-tier city, even though it's been called 'The Second City' (to NYC).

 

This. 

There are a few "global cities" indices, including the one maintained by The Globalization and World Rankings Research Institute.  New York is rated an "Alpha++" city, while Chicago and LA are rated "Alpha" cities. San Francisco is rated an "Alpha -" city and both DC and Houston are rated "Beta +."  When you look at the number of Fortune 500 companies headquartered in a metro area, New York ranks #1 (65), followed by Chicago (33), Dallas (22), Houston (21), and Minneapolis and San Francisco (18 each). Interestingly, when one looks at the revenue of the largest Fortune 500 in each metro, Dallas comes in at #1 (ExxonMobil), Minneapolis #2 (UnitedHealth Group), San Francisco #3 (McKesson), New York #4 (Verizon), Chicago #5 (WalgreensBootsAlliance), and Houston #6 (Phillips 66).  ExxonMobil and UHG dwarf the rest by a large margin. 

Back to escorting rates, I don't see how an escort could charge $300/hour and survive on escorting alone in NYC. Perhaps as a sideline, but not as a primary source of income. And if a guy can charge less because he is escorting as a sideline, does he want to be the "cut-rate" escort? I think not. I wonder how massage therapists make it without pushing their hands and arms to the absolute limits.

On 4/5/2024 at 10:48 AM, Wanderoz said:

I now see previous posts.

TRIED TO USE EDIT TO DELETE THIS POST, BUT DON'T SEE AN OPTION.

 

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5 hours ago, NJmusclelover said:

He’s in Vegas this week

Not sure how many bookings he can take, given he's in Phoenix 4/24 and 25, Tucson 4/25 and 26, and Vegas 4/26 and 27.

Me too! Haven't met any twins that work together, though.

Re-reading the OP's post I noticed this:

On 4/14/2024 at 9:06 PM, goosh69 said:

...If you buy more videos, you get an [sic] bigger discount for meetings [sic] or I do it for free..."

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Given buying a video is a great way to determine whether the guy is legit, receiving a discount for buying vids/subscribing is actually very enticing.

On 4/16/2024 at 4:26 PM, nycman said:

...At $500 for an overnight, it’s totally cool if you sleep next to me all night long.
At $2,000? We better be fucking like teenagers for 12 hours straight.

Funny you said that, @nycman. I paid $2K for an overnight w/a guy in SF and we did, indeed, end up fucking like teenagers for 12 hours straight. We had met up previously and our little 60-minute session turned into four and a half hours. (I extended the session to three - the extra 90 minutes was on the house, so to speak).

On 1/8/2023 at 7:21 PM, socurious said:

How is it? Do they get to book clients? Would you hire them? If the provider is hot enough I can see many hiring them just to bottom for him. 

"No kissing no giving [the client] oral" is usually not a deterrent for me. I have to feel a connection in order to kiss and I prefer to give than to receive. If a guy doesn't want to kiss, so be it. There are other things we can do and there are plenty of guys who want to kiss.

Yes, OP should have informed the provider that his roommate would be present. A simple "Oh, by the way, my roommate might be home. Don't worry, we are OK with each other having guests." is really all one has to say. No need to be explicit and emphatic. That said, the provider could have handled the situation more gracefully. 

14 hours ago, BuffaloKyle said:

I'm highly allergic to cats and dogs so I always ask if someone has a pet on the rare occasion I'm not hosting or going to a hotel to meet a provider. If someone ever shows up either as a client or provider to your place and you have a pet it's nice to mention it but it should be on them to ask if they are that allergic like I am. Never let them make it seem like your fault for not mentioning it.

I have two cats and ALWAYS tell providers about them 1) in case they are allergic and 2) in case small furry creatures darting out of the way might freak them out. 2) rarely happens because the minute an interloper comes into my place one goes under the sofa and the other goes into the closet. However, a guy who is becoming a regular did have an encounter with one of the boys that scared the begeebers out of him. He was about to take a shower and I was adjusting the water for him. Unknown to me, one of the cats was in the bathtub and ran out when I opened the curtain. In the cat's haste to leave he wrapped his tail around the guy's leg, which startled the guy. Turns out when the guy was a little kid he was fishing, and a snake wrapped itself around his leg. Ever since, he has been afraid of snakes. His first, admittedly irrational, reaction was to think the cat's tail was a snake. 

After the shower they made amends, and he ended up grabbing the stick toy and started playing with the cat.

On 2/27/2024 at 6:43 PM, Simon Suraci said:

He’s been around San Diego for years posting various ads under Patrick and a few other names. Never met him in person, so take the following with a big grain of salt.

My impression from a few years ago reaching out to him was that he is kinda rude and unfriendly. Standoffish, aloof. Got a bad vibe so never met. Very limited in what he will and won’t do. Strict vegan if I remember correctly, although I suppose that’s irrelevant. Good looking all around. Shame he isn’t offering to do much of anything in person with the body shots he advertises in his ads. My impression is you can look but cannot touch. Seems weird, like pick a lane: be erotic and lean into it, or offer therapeutic only and advertise as such. He keeps deleting and making new ads which is always a red flag in my book. Just my take. Curious: have others had positive experiences?

I hired him about seven Patricks, er, years ago from his RM ad. Not a bad session, but not amazing, either. He told me about his limitations a few times and mentioned being vegan several times. IIRC I sucked his dick and ate his ass, which made him shoot a huge load. He was pretty nice with me, but again this was in the 2017 timeframe when he had just moved to San Diego. Although he was fine with me, he did have a superior attitude about himself when talking about other people. It was more amusing than anything.

Note that I have opted NOT to hire him on subsequent trips.

When my first contact is via text it reads something like this:

"Hi [insert escort name here if they listed it in their ad]. I saw your RM profile and am interested in a potential meeting. LMK when is a good time to text."

When he replies that he can text I tell him what I get into and ask his thoughts.

If he replies affirmatively, I ask if he would share his rate. And then I book or not book.

I usually give 15 to 30 minutes, depending on how far he is coming from. 

On 4/12/2024 at 5:43 PM, Tallmenlover said:

Seems to be a bit of a red flag that no one from this forum has met them before. Maybe I'll go with another guy. Any recommendations in Toronto? I'm considering the below.

Not really. This forum's membership skews toward the US. It is also a very small segment of the population.

16 hours ago, Muscle Lover 2 said:

Back to Countryboyz, I am major interested as well.   Also enough to jump on a plane just for them.    Seen all I care to see in Toronto outside of some hot men.

They have an expired ad under TheJockandBear, which links to their Twitter profile. The Twitter profile has current pics and links to their OF.

Couple of things:

• Ali_greekbody lists his height as being 5'9", while Muscle_dadd lists his as being 5'6", so not the same stats unless Ali_greekbody recently changed his.
• Muscle_dadd's headline reads "PNP MUSCLE PAPI." Kissing or no kissing, he's into PNP. 

5 hours ago, ThroatCummer said:

Alright, I am going to go against my general rule and reply: 

I've hired him fairly recently. My advice would be to find someone else. He is hot, yes. Great body, handsome face, all of the above. 

But he's not a great escort. He's only concerned about himself and what he wants. He just doesn't give off the "comfortable" vibe and not for nothing, I can get comfortable with almost anyone in the world.  

Pass and move on.... 

I'm sorry you had a not-so-great experience but do thank you for taking one for the team and reporting back. 

3 hours ago, Bokomaru said:

Cloudy is usually a term referencing smoking crystal meth.

Next.  

That was exactly what I thought when I saw the title of this thread.

On 4/10/2024 at 3:43 AM, borgerback said:

Gents, 

Difficult to believe he's been around since 2019 and none of you big muscle interest guys have seen him or commented, so I'm believing there's been a name change.  At any rate, he's going to be in LA in May and (curiously) has '#bondage' in his profile . . . 

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I haven't hired him but have purchased a custom video from him. The price was extremely reasonable (approx. half of what many OF guys charge), the vid exceeded my expectations, and he created/sent it very promptly. If I was able to get to LA while he is in town I would absolutely hire him.

13 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

This is sorta becoming a norm for RM.

I'd suggest people don't be shocked when they get this kind of message.

Although I'm not a fan of being required to subscribe to a provider's OF, when a provider has one, I usually subscribe first to get an idea of the provider's current look.

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3 hours ago, Harryinny said:

Quite clear what he offers!

Someone listened to this song and took its message to heart!

Getting back to the topic, he's now on my list for when I visit NYC!

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2 hours ago, borgerback said:

I see what I'm interested in and my good sense (and closer reading) goes right out the window . . . 

I was about to add him to my buddylist when I saw his hashtags.

He listed PNP as an interest and specifies the hashtags "party" and "pnp." 

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