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most of my friends are early 60s & late 50s - I’ve never heard the conversation about younger gays being unappreciative or anything similar.  Or, the work & pain speech.  I don’t know anyone who thinks they’re owed something by the younger generations - it’s not even a thought 
 

FYI: Psychotherapy is covered under most health insurance policies.
 

Per hour, most therapists are cheaper than an escort. 

If studies are correct, the average is 5.17 inches erect and 95% of men fall into the 4-6" range.  Only 1% are longer than 7 inches.  It seems like a lot of the guys must measure from their navels.  

I was referring to Carter Jay (DesnudoMassa).   I haven't met StraightBoyJ.  

@pubic_assistance I didn't want to bring this up again, but based on past posts, you have no place in the gay community, and definitely no right to speak about it. Right now, your actions (if not substance) are pretty much the same as a closeted gay guy whose only contact with the community is when you commit adultery on your wife.
I don't know of many gays who feel "owed" by young people...except by not being treated badly. I don't ask for any recognition, but I do ask not to be insulted by young gays simply for walking into a room while being old.
And I don't know how you raised your kids, but as a financially-secure adult with elderly parents, I gladly perform my filial duties, whether it's visiting them, helping them out, or just being there for them. I'm capable of gratitude.

I was not in my 20s in the 70s but I was very grateful to my predecessors who fought for that first nondiscrimination laws, who founded GMHC and ACT UP, who created and entire culture and when I was in high school and college were bearing the brunt of the AIDS crisis.
 
Honestly, it’s even more disrespectful for young queers today to lack appreciation when the information is so readily available. And the rising tide of anti-queer fascism is cutting our rights off left and right in many states. So the kids should wake up before they find themselves in a pre-Stonewall situation just like we’re in a post-Roe situation. 

As my posts here indicate, I tend to have an aversion to the attitude held by many younger providers. I'm hiring them less and less, and only when I have a good expectation that they'll act more responsible.
I could go into "grumpy old man" mode, and repeat everything about how younger providers tend to be entitled, arrogant, overpriced, and irresponsible, not to mention their inability to follow a schedule.
However, as an openly gay man, the biggest attitude factor is that gay youth nowadays have a lot more privileges, acceptance, and opportunities than I and other older gays did at that age. So I see a lot of them as selfish ingrates who don't recognize how much work and pain older gay men had to go through to create the society they enjoy now. And selfish, uneducated ingratitude will make me lose a hard-on faster than anything.

This is a terrible analogy. First, lots of queer men from every generation have raised children. Several of my friends (Gen Xers) have children, biological, step and adopted. Second, younger people in a marginalized community should be grateful to their forbearers. Should African Americans take MLK for granted? 
Third, me and most of my friends are very grateful to our parents for what they did for us. Sure, we had bratty moments as teenagers but as an adult - whether you're a parent or not - you realize how much your parent(s) provided you with love, security, mentoring, etc. 
Lastly. as a non-parent, I see a lot of parents in my generation doing an absolutely shit job and raising little entitled narcissists. That's not "natural." That's just bad parenting. 

I’ve been told to go fuck myself many times.  If only I were younger. 

The Carter Jay he references in the Youtube video is this guy:  
DesnudoMassa - Pornstar Performer, Rentboy, Gay Massage in Midland, MI | RentMen
RENTMEN.EU Pornstar Performer & Rentboy in Midland, MI - DesnudoMassa: Carter Jay I've met him.   Wow...quite a mess.  One of my worst hires and I walked out.  
 

The Carter Jay he references in the Youtube video is this guy:  
DesnudoMassa - Pornstar Performer, Rentboy, Gay Massage in Midland, MI | RentMen
RENTMEN.EU Pornstar Performer & Rentboy in Midland, MI - DesnudoMassa: Carter Jay I've met him.   Wow...quite a mess.  One of my worst hires and I walked out.  
 

What does 'clean-cut' mean again?

FYI: His partner is BortSampson and they do play together.
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RENTMEN.EU Pornstar Performer & Rentboy in Denver, CO - BortSampson: Easygoing, passionate and kind  

Sorry to hear about your experience.  It sounds like something has definitely changed with him.  I've known him for many years and used to see him quite often.  He was always a power bottom in the past but seems like he is mainly/only a top now.  As you experienced as well, the last couple of times I saw him his hygiene was was not good.  The last time was horrible and so I quite seeing him.   I understand certain things can happen but that wasn't the case here.  This was literally not cleaning at all between clients.  

Met him in NYC and he was kinda unfriendly in communication and then fell asleep during session (at 7pm)
reached out in SF for a redo.  He was again unenthusiastic in text and then quoted me $500 (when he was only $400 in nyc).  
 
Me: i appreciate your hustle but that price hike is not cool
him: That's standard price in nyc my friend
 
NEXT….

He’s right. I guess I’m one of the ‘older’ guys in the business - in the daddy category. There’s no shortage of younger guys wanting a daddy experience, and prepared to hire for it. There’s also plenty of older guys looking for things that older providers can provide that younger guys can’t or won’t do, such as intimacy, being empathetic and actually turning up on time not being hung over or high and treating their client as a person rather than just another punter (apologies to those younger guys in the business who are professional- I don’t mean to stereotype, younger reliable guys do exist but are not easy to find in the crowd!)
That’s the other thing. There’s loads of younger guys doing sex work, with a wide range of quality. There’s far fewer older guys, and those who are doing it have stuck around at it because they’re good. People hire for all sorts of reasons and age is not necessarily a factor that matters for many of those reasons. 
 

I don't operate from a decision that I'm not attracted to men my age - I could be attracted to a man my age.   In actual fact, though, I don't encounter many men my own age that I'm sexually attracted to.  I was at a party a couple of months ago, and a man my own age hit on me in a very obvious way.  I was flattered, but he didn't do anything for me - no aversion, though.  

I thought 70 was the new 50. 

Looks like his rate is back to $180, which is acceptable in my book. When he was down in FL several months ago it was $200, so I skipped as a matter of principle. Yes, I'll tip generously, but the base rate has to be sensible and anchored in the fact that I can still get professional therapeutic massage for $100-120.

I have been with gay men (providers and not) who were mechanical in bed and bi guys who were great in bed and vice versa. 

I blame them.

I don’t blame any escort who does not want to kiss. I rarely kiss people & would never agree to kiss just anyone. YUCK! 

Wait is this true?  There are adults who don't know they can get STDs when they stop using condoms? They, what, slept through every health class ever? 

People talk themselves in circles about providers who don't kiss.
They don't kiss because they'd rather not be doing what they're doing.
I have neither patience nor sympathy for providers who don't kiss and yet expect to stay in the game.