Turn off or the nature of the business?

[MartyB]

I reached out to an escort here in NYC profile looks great and decent reviews (didn't look here for reviews or comments) and got down to basics with him. When I inquired about his rate it was $400 for the hour in call. I said that was high for me and he went down to $350 told him highest I go is $300 but don't like to haggle..He came and said ok just confirm the date & time. I'm a great negotiator.... or he will take what he can get? At first I thought I should take advantage but then I didn't like the concept that his rate was so easily swayed..Am I wrong? Thanks guys

[wklucas]

I would never balk or come back with a counteroffer on a 1 hour rate.....the escort is getting his requested pricing & in return, I'll wholly / fully expect to receive everything that I'm seeking / hiring....

If I'm interested in the guy, his asking price (within reason) is likely going to be fine.....If it's more than I want to pay, I'll politely end the contact.....if the guy quickly comes back with saying something lower, I walk, errrr run away even faster....I give him 1 chance to make a good first impression.....

For my own reasons, even with first-time hires for me, I'm almost always looking to book 2 hours.....it's nice when 2 hours gets something discounted from his hourly but it's not a dealbreaker by any means if the guy does not discount on his own - some do (the smarter ones, in my opinion) / some just don't. I'm ok with that.

[biggerbilly]

I wonder if his rate would have been $400 back when you could post rates. Before you could get a general idea of what the average rate was. Now, I wouldn’t be surprised if guys are testing out how much they can get. A year ago I would not bother bargaining. But now I’m a lot more open, as long as the escort is the first to lower there rate.

[sexymonk]

I reached out to an escort here in NYC profile looks great and decent reviews (didn't look here for reviews or comments) and got down to basics with him. When I inquired about his rate it was $400 for the hour in call. I said that was high for me and he went down to $350 told him highest I go is $300 but don't like to haggle..He came and said ok just confirm the date & time. I'm a great negotiator.... or he will take what he can get? At first I thought I should take advantage but then I didn't like the concept that his rate was so easily swayed..Am I wrong? Thanks guys

Haggling with price of an escort and later the escort reducing it is not good! I think strong business moral and ethics is needed by them to succeed!

[+ poolboy48220]

I will rarely negotiate. If a guy offers to drop his price, I'm going to wonder if it means a corresponding drop in service.

[Rod Hagen]

When I was young, haggling annoyed the shit out of me. Now, while I haven't changed my rate in 19 years, I understand it doesn't hurt me to hear them out, nor does it hurt me to say no.

[MartyB]

I would never balk or come back with a counteroffer on a 1 hour rate.....the escort is getting his requested pricing & in return, I'll wholly / fully expect to receive everything that I'm seeking / hiring....

If I'm interested in the guy, his asking price (within reason) is likely going to be fine.....If it's more than I want to pay, I'll politely end the contact.....if the guy quickly comes back with saying something lower, I walk, errrr run away even faster....I give him 1 chance to make a good first impression.....

For my own reasons, even with first-time hires for me, I'm almost always looking to book 2 hours.....it's nice when 2 hours gets something discounted from his hourly but it's not a dealbreaker by any means if the guy does not discount on his own - some do (the smarter ones, in my opinion) / some just don't. I'm ok with that.

I was polite but dropping a rate by 100 for an hour within like 30 seconds sent me a red flag. If he can get it all power to him.

[Cliff]

I never ask an escort to lower his price. I just don’t want to deal with negotiating. If his price is more than I care to pay, I simply move on because I’m sure to spot another shiny new penny about a minute later. That’s just my two cents. Or one cent.

[LJNYC83]

Out of curiosity, why does it bother anybody who said it does if a provider is willing to lower their rate to make the deal, for lack of a better term? I get the mentality from the provider POV in a way.

 

I’ve lowered my rate for some clients when they’ve asked me to, as long as it’s not drastically lower from my norm (I only charge $200 an hour, which I think is pretty low here in NYC but since I’m new and there’s so many available escorts in the market). Now I’ll say I’ve ended conversations with guys who asked for me to only take half my rate and were speaking to me in a very rude way. But somebody who is speaking to me nicely and asking me to shave a few bucks off, and may turn into a regular customer? I’m willing to work with that.

[+ Charlie]

I have always assumed that a good escort asks what he believes he is worth, and if he is willing to accept less than that, then he will probably produce less than his best experience.

[LaffingBear]

I'm also in the school of "don't haggle" as a client.

 

If its for more than one hour, I will try to tell them what I want so they can set an informed rate... I'll say yes or no.

 

There are no absolutes when trying to interpret emotional reactions. On some level, if the interaction proceeds:

• "My rate is $350."
  
• "Sorry, I won't pay that."
  
• "Well, I can do $300."
  
• "No thanks"
  
• "How about $250?".......
  

Now we're in used car sales territory. He didnt set his rate at $350.... he took a shot. Maybe it can go even lower. Or maybe he's really desperate, what am I getting into?

 

So, I politely decline if the rate is unacceptable to me, and avoid negotiations and all of the imagined reactions and reasons that go with them.

 

Plus, when purchasing mark-downs, there's always the possibility it's an irregular.

[MartyB]

I'm also in the school of "don't haggle" as a client.

 

If its for more than one hour, I will try to tell them what I want so they can set an informed rate... I'll say yes or no.

 

There are no absolutes when trying to interpret emotional reactions. On some level, if the interaction proceeds:

• "My rate is $350."
  
• "Sorry, I won't pay that."
  
• "Well, I can do $300."
  
• "No thanks"
  
• "How about $250?".......
  

Now we're in used car sales territory. He didnt set his rate at $350.... he took a shot. Maybe it can go even lower. Or maybe he's really desperate, what am I getting into?

 

So, I politely decline if the rate is unacceptable to me, and avoid negotiations and all of the imagined reactions and reasons that go with them.

 

Plus, when purchasing mark-downs, there's always the possibility it's an irregular.

I was polite but when an escort drops 100 for an hour in about 1 minute the urge to jump on it (I do mean literally lol) was there but then my "head " reaction went the other way. Not an absolute by any stretch.

[MartyB]

Out of curiosity, why does it bother anybody who said it does if a provider is willing to lower their rate to make the deal, for lack of a better term? I get the mentality from the provider POV in a way.

 

I’ve lowered my rate for some clients when they’ve asked me to, as long as it’s not drastically lower from my norm (I only charge $200 an hour, which I think is pretty low here in NYC but since I’m new and there’s so many available escorts in the market). Now I’ll say I’ve ended conversations with guys who asked for me to only take half my rate and were speaking to me in a very rude way. But somebody who is speaking to me nicely and asking me to shave a few bucks off, and may turn into a regular customer? I’m willing to work with that.

It doesn't bother it's just a bit of a red flag to drop that much off an hours rate? Good luck by the way in this market your hot and sound like a class act. Xoxo

[RyanDean]

If it was the only redflag, I would probably proceed. But that's in the context of this new reality with no posted rates.

 

I don't haggle, and hate having to broach the subject. (It was so much easier to say "going off your terms as posted today on RM"...) I will say "that's a bit more than I was anticipating -- sorry" and then wait to see what the gent says but I won't make a counteroffer...

[+ freecahill1965]

I do not negotiate. I ask them to look in my RM to see if we are a match. If so, I ask them to send me their rates. If it is to high, I just move on.

[tradehunter]

I reached out to an escort here in NYC profile looks great and decent reviews (didn't look here for reviews or comments) and got down to basics with him. When I inquired about his rate it was $400 for the hour in call. I said that was high for me and he went down to $350 told him highest I go is $300 but don't like to haggle..He came and said ok just confirm the date & time. I'm a great negotiator.... or he will take what he can get? At first I thought I should take advantage but then I didn't like the concept that his rate was so easily swayed..Am I wrong? Thanks guys

 

400 hr is on the higher end. .However it depends on what you are getting. If he is topping that is more than reasonable. If it is just muscle worship and or oral worship its a little pricier. However its much easier to negotiate longer hours and overnights especially if you are on the vanilla side. Maybe he lowered your rate and plans to lower the service so check to see what it includes.

[+ newatthis]

I wonder if his rate would have been $400 back when you could post rates. Before you could get a general idea of what the average rate was. Now, I wouldn’t be surprised if guys are testing out how much they can get. A year ago I would not bother bargaining. But now I’m a lot more open, as long as the escort is the first to lower there rate.

Interesting take on the situation which hadn't occurred to me.

[MartyB]

Interesting take on the situation which hadn't occurred to me.

Without rates posted for hiring New escorts this will be the case. It is central to all of this.

[MikeBiDude]

I’m ok with some negotiation of the rate. In a way, I do it every time....because I’m usually discussing/negotiating a longer 90-120 minute visit, but not at the initial hourly rate. There is nothing wrong with mentioning “that’s more than I usually hire for...” and see the response. In negotiating anything worst they can say is “no”.

 

I will *often* negotiate when working with guys from Grindr and Seeking Arrangements, a very large percentage of these guys don’t understand their “market”. But they can be a LOT of fun

[nsguy45]

If I got an escort to reduce his hourly rate and we hooked up, I feel our time together would be tainted due to the haggling over price. I would feel that he was not giving 100% out of resentment. I've had escorts lower their initially requested rate by over $100.00 just by my commenting that their rate was rather high. To me, that makes for a bad impression by the escort and I would pass on hiring him.

[BluDay]

If it was the only redflag, I would probably proceed. But that's in the context of this new reality with no posted rates.

 

As much as I personally dislike haggling, since there is no widely available place to see rates, I think this is an escort trying to find what the market will bear. As @RyanDean says, if it's the only red flag, it's him working for business. In the current times, I expect it more often. Since rates aren't posted any more, if I ask a provider a rate, I'd reply back if it were too high. When rates were posted, I wouldn't even ask.

[+ VictorPowers]

When I was young, haggling annoyed the shit out of me. Now, while I haven't changed my rate in 19 years, I understand it doesn't hurt me to hear them out, nor does it hurt me to say no.

There's haggling that I'll definitely listen to. I like to be flexible in all areas with my clients. Typically my hour is my hour though, with very few exceptions there.

[img2ciya]

I don't haggle over the price either - massage or "full service". I feel like I could be compromising the level of service being offered if I get the guy to give me a discount.

I also hate a la carte pricing. I had a guy in Barcelona who all of a sudden wanted X Euros more for this and Y Euros for that while we were already in the middle of the session! That annoyed the hell out of me.

 

Back to the haggling though - there's a guy in NYC (Winny) who will haggle quite a bit. I haven't met him but the reviews here and elsewhere make me very glad I haven't. From poor service to outdated pics, he's a prime example of why one shouldn't haggle. If they are worth the price, they won't haggle. It's up to you to decide if you want to spend that much. Fortunately, there are places like this and DR where we can shares reviews!

[LJNYC83]

It doesn't bother it's just a bit of a red flag to drop that much off an hours rate? Good luck by the way in this market your hot and sound like a class act. Xoxo

 

Thank you! I think I’ve done well in my first two months. Hopefully it only keeps going up from here!

[sexymonk]

I never ask an escort to lower his price. I just don’t want to deal with negotiating. If his price is more than I care to pay, I simply move on because I’m sure to spot another shiny new penny about a minute later. That’s just my two cents. Or one cent.

I can't agree enough with you! To get a taste and for fun contact Brody

https://rentmen.eu/Sexy_Brody

His 1 hour rate is 800. For fun I told him that 800 is very low and that others take 1000-1200 per hour. He should ask for that amount! Lol