Differing relations with Black escorts?

[Mocha]

I interrupt the original topic of this thread with a special announcement/statement. As some may know, the online escort industry has been bombed. Too early say if it's a nuke, but we need to stick together. And stand up for our rights. Our energy will need to be focused on this going forward, so I don't want smaller issues to distract from the bigger picture.

 

For the time being, as it relates to this topic...I suggest we learn from those who have experienced the plights of marginalization. Let us (as escorts/clients black/white/everybody) go with the same triumph, as those who have in the past; for my rights, your rights, OUR rights. Make it a MILLION MALE ESCORT MARCH!

 

 

Edited March 24, 2018 by Mocha

[+ Keith30309]

[Bearofdistinction]

Maybe they are just finding other careers - or settling down with partners - or just going back to dating = or have an established circle of loyal admirers -- or they just are not advertising on RM and have found alternative ways of marketing themselves

 

--- OR maybe you are right

[Encantomel]

Maybe they are just finding other careers - or settling down with partners - or just going back to dating = or have an established circle of loyal admirers -- or they just are not advertising on RM and have found alternative ways of marketing themselves

 

--- OR maybe you are right

I didn’t retire, just built up a regular client base and stopped paying for advertising.

[YoungAD]

Atleast my hypothesis I should say:

 

But I am finding it somewhat uncanny , as this has been bought to my attention. However, I'm not surprised. As I've said before, I still feel as black escorts/men in the gay sex industry on many levels, just don't get the recognition deserved. And when it is, it's often compared or paired with someone else. Or it takes a certain amount of time/scenes done in porn to earn kudos. Even though both guys may be equally great, equal reviews: But on here, it's the same names being bought up.

 

It's very easy for someone to point out how many guys are listed on Rentmen, or a recent hire. But, speaking of 1 city or 1 person may not accurately portray the bigger overall picture.

 

The other thing is, black men are not supporting black escorts...as much. Much less than when I started for sure. An example, a met another gay black guy locally, not an escort or client. We went out a couple of times, and on two occasions...he would interrupt a conversation to slip a couple dollars in the G-strings of miscellaneous non-black dancers, and start grinding up on them, which just so happened to be featured and exclusive to the party. And for anyone who doesn't frequent gay bars, usually when you're there with someone...it's cordially "assumed" you guys are together, unless explicitly stated. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, but people perceive things...and it's best to preserve the atmosphere of a situation by not being too obvious about it.

 

It wasn't an issue of him paying them versus me (and turns out, he was a real creep and I had to cut that social tie quick). It was more an issue of yet another gay black dude, conforming to the whole idea that your sexual desires are to be constantly fine tuned to seek out non-blacks who are freaks. Meanwhile, he did it in a way to make me feel undesirable in the process, which I can't have that....because why would I let another black dude size me up, to some White go go dancers, when I can be doing so much better for myself, and have? (He later apologized for being a jerk, a week later...but by then I'd already moved on and found me a White guy to go home with instead.)

 

Anyhow...that's more of a deeper aspect and nitty gritty of the underlying things. But ultimately, it's an example of why and how Black escorts aren't being favored enough, even by those amongst us. Again. I'm not saying all. I know there's people out there who do.

 

The other thing I feel, is that more White guys seem to treat us disposable. It's to the point that in my personal life, I've become better accustomed to moving on, and not being surprised when a White guy flakes and disappear and never respond to texts, then see him at the club the next day. But nowadays, it happens more suddenly and more frequently. I generally date more varied, but some of this behavior is moving down to other races too as acceptable.

 

So like when they say, "the apple don't fall too far from the tree"...those same behaviors fall right into the schedules of black escorts, who are dealing with such behaviors from majority White clients. I believe because of that, many (Black) guys are either going on sudden "retirements" or getting into other things.

 

I will go ahead and read through the lines and presume you had a bad week.

[+ DickyF]

So you went to a strip club with a black guy and he gave money to non-black strippers - so your point is he should have given money to black strippers? So what?

And lately you find white guys treat black guys as disposable. You mean over the last couple of months?

I think you extrapolate too much.

[rossthebosssf]

*eye rolls*

[MikeBiDude]

I’m thinking our @Mocha should change his screen name to “Boomerang”?

 

[Walker1]

Sometimes the sky is falling or maybe you are just dreaming?

[Kenny]

If black escorts are indeed retiring at record levels, @latbear4blk will have a coronary.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Are they retiring AND pulling from their escort 401k plan?

 

I mean, the penalties alone...

[Mocha]

I didn’t retire, just built up a regular client base and stopped paying for advertising.

 

I suppose it depends on what someone's needs are. If someone just needs periodic regular arrangements, I can see stopping advertising. Stopping advertising wouldn't work for me, because I don't remain in one city consistently...and even when I do, I still like to have the exposure in case a regular drops off for whatever reason.

[Mocha]

Maybe they are just finding other careers - or settling down with partners - or just going back to dating = or have an established circle of loyal admirers -- or they just are not advertising on RM and have found alternative ways of marketing themselves

 

--- OR maybe you are right

 

That's all possible. Personally, I've been going back to dating as well and am kinda "talking" to someone. But at the same time, I've never actually been in a relationship where someone forced me to retire, or made me feel as if I needed to because we were dating. If they did, they were likely dishonest themselves, and blamed my job as a perfect "out" to cover up their dirty work.

 

I will go ahead and read through the lines and presume you had a bad week.

 

Highly disappointing to be exact. Seems like every since March, things have slowed to a halt...considering I was having one of the best starts to the year ever. Tax refunds must have dried up.

 

So you went to a strip club with a black guy and he gave money to non-black strippers - so your point is he should have given money to black strippers? So what?

And lately you find white guys treat black guys as disposable. You mean over the last couple of months?

I think you extrapolate too much.

 

Lol...speak of the devil. I saw that MOFO last night. Same jerk as before. He actually hit me up out the blue to invite me to come out, but I'd already had some other people in town and the guy I'm "talking to" meeting up with me. Plus he didn't even offer to pay my cover or buy my drink...but yet riding around in a Camaro, that he got in a fender bender in front of the club last night. I was like, that's what he gets for being such a poser.

 

Here's the thing, it was not a "strip club". It's a gay bar. Which happens to occasionally have guys dance for the night. He happens to be an older guy who likes to pretty much tip/hit on strippers all night, but I watched him last night and it's like he doesn't even approach the regular patrons of the club. Despite the fact that there were a plethora of other hot Latin guys all over the club.

 

I personally don't care for majority of go go dancers (I've met some over the years and to me most are faux hoes-look it up on urban dictionary). To me, paying to watch someone dance or swing on a pole would be less satisfying than even paying someone for sex. And why would I spend my time hanging with someone who's going out to meet strippers, instead of mingling with people in the crowd and making connections with people who aren't being paid to be there? Btw, there were/are no blacks strippers at this club. So I can't fault him, but he had mentioned to me already that he only goes for Latin/White guys. And I've learned, it's very hard to stay friends with black guys who are only into non-blacks, UNLESS they are already in a relationship...because the friendship ends up becoming a competition. Most Black guys who are into White/other guys don't like other Black guys in their circle and will drive them off eventually.

 

As for the other part, I'll just say this: despite the fact that majority of our clients are White, the majority of our time-wasters are also White. However, the majority of black callers who contact, tend to be time-wasters. So it's do or die either way. However, in my personal life..I've always found White guys are the most likely to go ghost in a situation. That is, cut things off without warning/explanation when everything seems to be going fine.

 

I personally have stepped away from dating both Black and White guys. As a Black mixed-racial person, sometimes you're not White enough or Black enough to garner the respect you deserve from either side.. I personally stick with Latino guys now. Regrettably, in my current market they make up only about 1/8th of the clients I see...versus out west where it's more like 1/4th my client base.

[Mocha]

If black escorts are indeed retiring at record levels, @latbear4blk will have a coronary.

 

I was being partly facetious, but it was based on some things I've heard over the past couple weeks. I would hope it's anecdotal, and I don't think it's anything in particular with us (I mean clearly not).

 

I'm going to try some other things and perhaps some other markets too. Because it does matter sometimes. Trying to stay positive, but it's definitely making me uneasy.

[Aaron_Bauder]

Whiteness is at the top of the totem pole in American beauty standards: doll experiments with kids 3-5 prove American culture conditions us from childhood to find whites more attractive and desirable than nonwhites. This byproduct of American racism is well known from long ago.

 

That means few black escorts will ever reap the financial success of white escorts of equal attractiveness from escorting alone. A 10/10 white escort may be flown worldwide in private jets often and kept in unbelievable New York & Hollywood Hills apartments and the like. Unless he's also a top porn star, a 10/10 black escort won't ever live like that in this country.

 

Unfair, yes. I was shocked when I found out how well your average white escort does compared to nonwhites. But at this point, my reaction is *shrug.* We are working to build a more inclusive, integrated society where nonwhites won't be devalued. In the meantime, black guys have to be twice as good and work twice as hard to get a fraction of the recognition that a thoroughly average white guy gets. With the possible exception of professional sports, it's true across American culture. In gay culture that means black escorts, black fashion models, black go-go dancers, etc are going to have a tougher time.

 

Until the better future we are fighting for is here, no use in me whining about it.

 

We are at a cultural inflection point on this issue. The success of Black Panther has proven false the industry's standard go-to excuse: "There just isn't a MARKET for blacks, so my representation has to be 99.99% white....I can't have more than one black guy on my model agency's roster because of the MARKET...I *have* to relegate black guys to fetished separate but equal ghetto porn beause the MARKET won't accept black guys as a boy next door type" etc. It's never been about the market. There's a market for anything with enough industry support. It's always been about segregation, who gets support and resources, and who is denied support and resources.

 

There will be a better market for black escorts once American society is more integrated and less insane about race. But we are still three or four decades from the day when a truly hot black guy gets as much attention as a certain horsefaced white twink already can around these parts.

 

And don't even get me started on what Asian boys deal with, good grief.

Edited March 20, 2018 by Aaron_Bauder

[Darknightfag]

I do think there is something to be said about the way that black bodies are treated and valued. The queer community (whatever this means) does have race issues. Given the national climate, it would make sense. I don't know if I can make a jump to retirements so to speak.

[Beancounter]

Are they retiring AND pulling from their escort 401k plan?

 

I mean, the penalties alone...

I haven’t laughed so hard in months. That’s hilarious!

[hypothetically]

I will go ahead and read through the lines and presume you had a bad week.

 

That part.

[Mocha]

Whiteness is at the top of the totem pole in American beauty standards: doll experiments with kids 3-5 prove American culture conditions us from childhood to find whites more attractive and desirable than nonwhites. This byproduct of American racism is well known from long ago.

 

That means few black escorts will ever reap the financial success of white escorts of equal attractiveness from escorting alone. A 10/10 white escort may be flown worldwide in private jets often and kept in unbelievable New York & Hollywood Hills apartments and the like. Unless he's also a top porn star, a 10/10 black escort won't ever live like that in this country.

 

Unfair, yes. I was shocked when I found out how well your average white escort does compared to nonwhites. But at this point, my reaction is *shrug.* We are working to build a more inclusive, integrated society where nonwhites won't be devalued. In the meantime, black guys have to be twice as good and work twice as hard to get a fraction of the recognition that a thoroughly average white guy gets. With the possible exception of professional sports, it's true across American culture. In gay culture that means black escorts, black fashion models, black go-go dancers, etc are going to have a tougher time.

 

Until the better future we are fighting for is here, no use in me whining about it.

 

We are at a cultural inflection point on this issue. The success of Black Panther has proven false the industry's standard go-to excuse: "There just isn't a MARKET for blacks, so my representation has to be 99.99% white....I can't have more than one black guy on my model agency's roster because of the MARKET...I *have* to relegate black guys to fetished separate but equal ghetto porn beause the MARKET won't accept black guys as a boy next door type" etc. It's never been about the market. There's a market for anything with enough industry support. It's always been about segregation, who gets support and resources, and who is denied support and resources.

 

There will be a better market for black escorts once American society is more integrated and less insane about race. But we are still three or four decades from the day when a truly hot black guy gets as much attention as a certain horsefaced white twink already can around these parts.

 

And don't even get me started on what Asian boys deal with, good grief.

 

Bravo, bravo! Succinctly said, and absolutely on point.

 

However, I will pick at a couple of things you said and kind of refute it. I can't say that every or even most White escorts can breeze to the top and make more than a 10/10 black escort who has the industry down pack. I lived in Denver, and crossed a handful of White escorts over a period of 5 years. Most of them weren't even doing half of what I was doing. I had my own place, was traveling and renting top of the line cars for a week or 2 (in addition to my own), and had a steady flow of clients. They were working 9-5 on the side, asking me how I did it, and never got to leave Colorado. Most the White guys were so jealous of me, and a couple tried to convince me I was doing nothing with my life...despite the fact I was living better than them. After awhile, I started to doubt myself...and then the Denver market started becoming more and more saturated, combined with a tumultuous market : I almost hit rock bottom. Left out of there before that happened.

 

I also don't think white is at the top of the totem pole anymore in America. Ever look at craigslist casual encounters (don't)? No matter what city, it never fails: someone is always seeking a big black cock within 5-10 ads. However, white people (and some Latin people too) need to see beyond the cock fantasy, and stop using us as merely play toys to be flaked on or pushed in the corner when they have their fill (pun intended).

 

Also, I've had offers to live in nice apartments and condos as well. In fact, for about a year and a half I had that just last year. But, that stuff comes with a price. Often times with becoming "boyfriends" with clients. I also know another top of the line escort here (white, but shall remain anon) who mentioned he prefers to pay his own travel expenses, versus being flown around all over. I am the same.

 

I think the main obstacle, is 95% of gay White guys are fake and phony and mainly use Black guys for validation. Period. I spent some time analyzing my dating, non-escorting experiences over the last couple years...and come to realize 9 out of 10 White guys I've come across, ended up being completely fake and phony when it came down to it. Comes on strong, but won't hesitate to pretend you don't exist and cut you off once their use for you expires, which can be at any point without warning. I even know one White guy who told me, he stops seeing his black guys after 2 or 3 meets. We somehow ended up good friends, but I told him to stop doing that. At this point, unless it's client relationship related....I keep things with White guys very platonic. Because I already know it'll usually end up being lots of games and faking involved. Versus meeting a black or Latino guy, who will usually be straight forward as to whether or not they like you.

 

The fakest White guys I've met are in: Nashville, Denver, Florida, and Texas. There's some pretty genuine ones in Canada, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, D.C. and (northern) California. Not the fake SoCal ones. But at the same time, its been pretty much all over.

 

This isn't a White bashing post...after all, 80% of our clients are white and personally I often enjoy interactions with gay Whites moreso than gay Blacks. I am saying that despite everyone thinking we are in 2018 and everything is still peachy creamy, there's still some long standing subliminal behaviors that exist...which affects everything from business to dating.

[hypothetically]

Bravo, bravo! Succinctly said, and absolutely on point.

 

However, I will pick at a couple of things you said and kind of refute it. I can't say that every or even most White escorts can breeze to the top and make more than a 10/10 black escort who has the industry down pack. I lived in Denver, and crossed a handful of White escorts over a period of 5 years. Most of them weren't even doing half of what I was doing. I had my own place, was traveling and renting top of the line cars for a week or 2 (in addition to my own), and had a steady flow of clients. They were working 9-5 on the side, asking me how I did it, and never got to leave Colorado. Most the White guys were so jealous of me, and a couple tried to convince me I was doing nothing with my life...despite the fact I was living better than them. After awhile, I started to doubt myself...and then the Denver market started becoming more and more saturated, combined with a tumultuous market : I almost hit rock bottom. Left out of there before that happened.

 

I also don't think white is at the top of the totem pole anymore in America. Ever look at craigslist casual encounters (don't)? No matter what city, it never fails: someone is always seeking a big black cock within 5-10 ads. However, white people (and some Latin people too) need to see beyond the cock fantasy, and stop using us as merely play toys to be flaked on or pushed in the corner when they have their fill (pun intended).

 

Also, I've had offers to live in nice apartments and condos as well. In fact, for about a year and a half I had that just last year. But, that stuff comes with a price. Often times with becoming "boyfriends" with clients. I also know another top of the line escort here (white, but shall remain anon) who mentioned he prefers to pay his own travel expenses, versus being flown around all over. I am the same.

 

I think the main obstacle, is 95% of gay White guys are fake and phony and mainly use Black guys for validation. Period. I spent some time analyzing my dating, non-escorting experiences over the last couple years...and come to realize 9 out of 10 White guys I've come across, ended up being completely fake and phony when it came down to it. Comes on strong, but won't hesitate to pretend you don't exist and cut you off once their use for you expires, which can be at any point without warning. I even know one White guy who told me, he stops seeing his black guys after 2 or 3 meets. We somehow ended up good friends, but I told him to stop doing that. At this point, unless it's client relationship related....I keep things with White guys very platonic. Because I already know it'll usually end up being lots of games and faking involved. Versus meeting a black or Latino guy, who will usually be straight forward as to whether or not they like you.

 

The fakest White guys I've met are in: Nashville, Denver, Florida, and Texas. There's some pretty genuine ones in Canada, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, D.C. and (northern) California. Not the fake SoCal ones. But at the same time, its been pretty much all over.

 

This isn't a White bashing post...after all, 80% of our clients are white and personally I often enjoy interactions with gay Whites moreso than gay Blacks. I am saying that despite everyone thinking we are in 2018 and everything is still peachy creamy, there's still some long standing subliminal behaviors that exist...which affects everything from business to dating.

 

You sound a fucking mess. There is so much generalization in your text that it’s not even worth finishing. This is your experience, no one else’s.

Edited March 21, 2018 by hypothetically

[rossthebosssf]

I always enjoy his use of big words yet he doesn't understand basic grammar, sentence structure or when to use capital letters. If you're trying to sound smarter than you are, please take the time to learn the basics.

[Mocha]

Oh yeah...I came prepared to make some simple minded mofos come with personal attacks, that don't actually address the facts. You know when the name calling comes out, it just further validates the truth.

 

You sound a fucking mess. There is so much generalization in your text that it’s not even worth finishing. This is your experience, no one else’s.

 

Well guess what, if what I'm saying is generalizing then what you're saying is an opinion as well. You sound ignorant as fuck because you're trying to discount my experience (and then rebrand it as a generalization), AS WELL AS the accounts of every other person out there who's experienced the same. Best believe it's not my own experience. But, being that I wouldn't lie to you, examples:

 

There was a black escort/porn star I admired who lives in L.A. He retired. On his rentmen blog, I was dismayed to see he had called out several (non-black) clients throughout rentmen who had flaked on him. Like in very annoying and inconvenient ways. I wasn't dismayed at his calling them out, but rather that someone else was going thru the same thing. I reached out to him and related to him, but he told me "he was on his way to taking his ad down anyway".

 

I had a Black client last year who was robbed of something like $50,000. Who did it? Some White guy whom he let move his things in for him (and apparently he made a copy of the key, and came back later). I warned him...White guys can be sneaky when it comes to Black/White interactions.

 

I had a White guy friend I've known for years, but our friendship finally officially ended last year, after he pulled 1 last phony stunt that I could not forgive.

 

I know another White guy who was dating another White guy, and apparently the guy robbed his ass and left him on the cold Denver streets. I tried to told him...like who does that???

 

It took me until I turned 30; and a uncountable number of experiences, that majority of White guys I come across are going to put on a facade, when it comes to interactions. I look back and feel so foolish for trying to make things work with some of them. I've finally got it. But I don't necessarily understand it. I believe White guys were brought up to be as non-confrontational as possible. That makes them generally friendly and sociable to be around, and less likely to have any problems with in public (though that doesn't apply to all..in fact all thru grade school, the White boys were usually always the ones starting shit with me for no reason). But, when it comes down to getting to know them...they use that same fake, phony, artificial attitude when they want to plan an exit.

 

I think what taught me best, the white guys in Nashville. One was so fake, we went on 2 seemingly decent good dates, then he never texted me again. After that, I seen him at various parties around town about 2-3 times, and he always made it seem like we were all cool and that he'd hit me up again. Never did.

 

It's not just limited to White guys either. A lot of Black/Latino guys have picked up the same bad habits, and followed in suit. That's why I learned to specifically stay away from the Black/Latin types who keep a majority of White company...because they tend to mimic the phony White gay guy personality and take it to a whole new level. White guys tend to have an aura of plasticity in their approach, but when others try to mimic it, they just turn straight up nasty about it. I've learned this on numerous occasions, and after an incident last year in Phoenix where a Black guy I met humiliated and faked me out in front of his White friends: I vowed never again.

 

What's to do? Practice being real. I think some White guys feel they have an obligation to be agreeable to everything, to avoid conflict, rather than just say how they feel. Then later, you wonder what happened. Most times, you'll never know. I also believe with the middle age White guys 30s/40s, if they sense a black guy makes less than them, or think your credit score ain't high enough, they'll be fake for a couple dates and then run. That's why I tend to prefer the older white guys in their 50s and up, as they usually are past all that.

 

But I just don't bother with fake and phony people. Too much energy and wasted time. I give em 1 or 2 strikes, then they start becoming very transparent.

 

Welcome to being a GBM+ a GBM escort in America. Gotta take the bad with the good.

 

I always enjoy his use of big words yet he doesn't understand basic grammar, sentence structure or when to use capital letters. If you're trying to sound smarter than you are, please take the time to learn the basics.

 

Lol..coming from someone who failed to capitalize the first letter of his avatar name nor capitalize the S or F in San Francisco. Sit down; you simple, basic, wanna-be grammatically correct, piece of....work. Enough punctuation for you?

Edited March 22, 2018 by Mocha

[rossthebosssf]

No mystery as to why you have a shortage of clients.

[Mocha]

No mystery as to why you have a shortage of clients.

 

Ok presumptive English teacher, I never mentioned I had a shortage in clients.

[hypothetically]

Oh yeah...I came prepared to make some simple minded mofos come with personal attacks, that don't actually address the facts. You know when the name calling comes out, it just further validates the truth.

 

 

 

Well guess what, if what I'm saying is generalizing then what you're saying is an opinion as well. You sound ignorant as fuck because you're trying to discount my experience (and then rebrand it as a generalization), AS WELL AS the accounts of every other person out there who's experienced the same. Best believe it's not my own experience. But, being that I wouldn't lie to you, examples:

 

There was a black escort/porn star I admired who lives in L.A. He retired. On his rentmen blog, I was dismayed to see he had called out several (non-black) clients throughout rentmen who had flaked on him. Like in very annoying and inconvenient ways. I wasn't dismayed at his calling them out, but rather that someone else was going thru the same thing. I reached out to him and related to him, but he told me "he was on his way to taking his ad down anyway".

 

I had a Black client last year who was robbed of something like $50,000. Who did it? Some White guy whom he let move his things in for him (and apparently he made a copy of the key, and came back later). I warned him...White guys can be sneaky when it comes to Black/White interactions.

 

I had a White guy friend I've known for years, but our friendship finally officially ended last year, after he pulled 1 last phony stunt that I could not forgive.

 

I know another White guy who was dating another White guy, and apparently the guy robbed his ass and left him on the cold Denver streets. I tried to told him...like who does that???

 

It took me until I turned 30; and a uncountable number of experiences, that majority of White guys I come across are going to put on a facade, when it comes to interactions. I look back and feel so foolish for trying to make things work with some of them. I've finally got it. But I don't necessarily understand it. I believe White guys were brought up to be as non-confrontational as possible. That makes them generally friendly and sociable to be around, and less likely to have any problems with in public (though that doesn't apply to all..in fact all thru grade school, the White boys were usually always the ones starting shit with me for no reason). But, when it comes down to getting to know them...they use that same fake, phony, artificial attitude when they want to plan an exit.

 

I think what taught me best, the white guys in Nashville. One was so fake, we went on 2 seemingly decent good dates, then he never texted me again. After that, I seen him at various parties around town about 2-3 times, and he always made it seem like we were all cool and that he'd hit me up again. Never did.

 

It's not just limited to White guys either. A lot of Black/Latino guys have picked up the same bad habits, and followed in suit. That's why I learned to specifically stay away from the Black/Latin types who keep a majority of White company...because they tend to mimic the phony White gay guy personality and take it to a whole new level. White guys tend to have an aura of plasticity in their approach, but when others try to mimic it, they just turn straight up nasty about it. I've learned this on numerous occasions, and after an incident last year in Phoenix where a Black guy I met humiliated and faked me out in front of his White friends: I vowed never again.

 

What's to do? Practice being real. I think some White guys feel they have an obligation to be agreeable to everything, to avoid conflict, rather than just say how they feel. Then later, you wonder what happened. Most times, you'll never know. I also believe with the middle age White guys 30s/40s, if they sense a black guy makes less than them, or think your credit score ain't high enough, they'll be fake for a couple dates and then run. That's why I tend to prefer the older white guys in their 50s and up, as they usually are past all that.

 

But I just don't bother with fake and phony people. Too much energy and wasted time. I give em 1 or 2 strikes, then they start becoming very transparent.

 

Welcome to being a GBM+ a GBM escort in America. Gotta take the bad with the good.

 

 

 

Lol..coming from someone who failed to capitalize the first letter of his avatar name nor capitalize the S or F in San Francisco. Sit down; you simple, basic, wanna-be grammatically correct, piece of....work. Enough punctuation for you?

 

Well now that you’ve provided ALL THESE RECEIPTS, how could I not believe you? Lol, @Mocha, log the fuck out friend.