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Hello, I have lived in the LA area(I know it is a good market) but I've been here all my life and sick and tired of it. I'd like to move and start fresh elsewhere (NYC) and see more of the world. I've been seeing/hooking-up with older gents almost exclusively for over a year now. It's just what I like, so I might as well make a living out of it. However, I'm unclear about a couple of things.

 

1.) I'm 22, white, 6ft, slim, with a twink body but straight, masculine attitude, well-hung(very thick with good length). Cute face, so I've been told. Kisser, mostly top, but working on bottoming. Do my attributes, namely my body type, put me at a disadvantage considering all the muscled hunks? I understand people have different tastes, but is there a market for my type in the city? Ideally, I would eventually like to earn at least 80K to 90K/year, is this an attainable goal if I'm fully committed?

 

2.) Is an in-call location absolutely essential for maximizing profits? I like saving as much money as possible and investing, so I was considering sharing an apartment and doing outcalls exclusively. If I live on my own, would a studio north of 100th St be an unwise move? The train system makes the area accessible, right? Or is the location itself just a turn-off for clients?

 

3.) (unrelated to NYC) I've read many escorts travel. How is it possible to make more money like this, as opposed to staying in one city, when airfare and hotels are so expensive? Paying rent at a place you're not using, paying for travel in addition to that, and charging the same right just doesn't make sense to me. What am I missing?

 

4.) Not expecting a clear-cut answer here, but how do escorts explain to their friends and families how they can afford the lifestyle they have? I can't think of a believable cover-story. What can I say when they ask what my job is? They know I love in investing, so there's a start, but still working on it.

 

Sorry for so many questions and questions within questions lol. But thank you all for reading them and making an effort to help me. I've been reading this forum without an account, and it's been so informative. You guys are awesome and thanks for everything you do!

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1.) I'm 22, white, 6ft, slim, with a twink body but straight, masculine attitude, well-hung(very thick with good length). Cute face, so I've been told. Kisser, mostly top, but working on bottoming. Do my attributes, namely my body type, put me at a disadvantage considering all the muscled hunks? I understand people have different tastes, but is there a market for my type in the city?

 

There's an ass for every seat. You'll do just fine. Besides, like you say, there is already a good supply of muscle hunks.

 

Ideally, I would eventually like to earn at least 80K to 90K/year, is this an attainable goal if I'm fully committed?

 

You'll be very pleasantly surprised.

 

2.) Is an in-call location absolutely essential for maximizing profits?

 

Yes.

 

I like saving as much money as possible and investing, so I was considering sharing an apartment and doing outcalls exclusively. If I live on my own, would a studio north of 100th St be an unwise move?

 

Penny wise and pound foolish.

 

The train system makes the area accessible, right? Or is the location itself just a turn-off for clients?

 

Extremely few clients would be willing to make that schlep, and you'll be removing yourself from the many "right now" outcalls as well.

 

3.) (unrelated to NYC) I've read many escorts travel. How is it possible to make more money like this, as opposed to staying in one city, when airfare and hotels are so expensive? Paying rent at a place you're not using, paying for travel in addition to that, and charging the same right just doesn't make sense to me. What am I missing?

 

That's actually very related to NYC. Most guys you meet elsewhere eventually make it to NYC, and would like nothing more than to see you in your home city once they've met you in theirs. Any few days in Boston and DC will probably make enough to justify the trip and build your clientele.

 

4.) Not expecting a clear-cut answer here, but how do escorts explain to their friends and families how they can afford the lifestyle they have? I can't think of a believable cover-story. What can I say when they ask what my job is?

 

I'm a hooker.

 

Sorry for so many questions and questions within questions lol. But thank you all for reading them and making an effort to help me. I've been reading this forum without an account, and it's been so informative. You guys are awesome and thanks for everything you do!

 

Not at all. That's what this forum is for.

 

Lastly, you might want to put a link to your ad in your signature here, like I have. (Click on your name in the upper right, then signature.)

 

Kevin Slater

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Wow! Thank you for the prompt and thorough response! I tremendously appreciate it.

 

So, a small studio anywhere below Central Park should be acceptable?

 

Housing is the only thing that really worries me. I know how cutthroat it is too find a good place, and I don't have pay stubs or years of tax returns like many demand.

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Wow! Thank you for the prompt and thorough response! I tremendously appreciate it.

 

So, a small studio anywhere below Central Park should be acceptable?

 

Housing is the only thing that really worries me. I know how cutthroat it is too find a good place, and I don't have pay stubs or years of tax returns like many demand.

 

 

I'd recommend Hells Kitchen, but yes, stay below Central Park.

 

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Hello, I have lived in the LA area(I know it is a good market) but I've been here all my life and sick and tired of it. I'd like to move and start fresh elsewhere (NYC) and see more of the world. I've been seeing/hooking-up with older gents almost exclusively for over a year now. It's just what I like, so I might as well make a living out of it. However, I'm unclear about a couple of things.

 

1.) I'm 22, white, 6ft, slim, with a twink body but straight, masculine attitude, well-hung(very thick with good length). Cute face, so I've been told. Kisser, mostly top, but working on bottoming. Do my attributes, namely my body type, put me at a disadvantage considering all the muscled hunks? I understand people have different tastes, but is there a market for my type in the city? Ideally, I would eventually like to earn at least 80K to 90K/year, is this an attainable goal if I'm fully committed?

 

2.) Is an in-call location absolutely essential for maximizing profits? I like saving as much money as possible and investing, so I was considering sharing an apartment and doing outcalls exclusively. If I live on my own, would a studio north of 100th St be an unwise move? The train system makes the area accessible, right? Or is the location itself just a turn-off for clients?

 

3.) (unrelated to NYC) I've read many escorts travel. How is it possible to make more money like this, as opposed to staying in one city, when airfare and hotels are so expensive? Paying rent at a place you're not using, paying for travel in addition to that, and charging the same right just doesn't make sense to me. What am I missing?

 

4.) Not expecting a clear-cut answer here, but how do escorts explain to their friends and families how they can afford the lifestyle they have? I can't think of a believable cover-story. What can I say when they ask what my job is? They know I love in investing, so there's a start, but still working on it.

 

Sorry for so many questions and questions within questions lol. But thank you all for reading them and making an effort to help me. I've been reading this forum without an account, and it's been so informative. You guys are awesome and thanks for everything you do!

 

New York is not inexpensive, so I wouldn’t get ambitious and hit it to NYC with no back up plan or at the very least dipping your foot in the pool first. I’d suggest you come here and work for a week if your schedule permits and see how receptive the clientele are to you, and if you are comfortable working here. LA clients are not NYC clients. But per Kevin’s point, there’s something for everyone and from what I gather from your description, that’s marketable. Howev, you do have a lot of competition, check the headcount on how many active escorts there are in the city vs where you’re coming from.

 

1) Your goal is fully attainable (eventually) if you are consistent and you travel. Most escorts are not.

 

2) In-calls are imperative to your business, and if you cannot host, find a friend in apps like Hotel Tonight. A place above 100th is not unattractive to clients. It’s not the Bronx. I think Kevin’s suggestion of living in HK from the jump is also ambitious for someone is just starting out escorting. Seek something more affordable until you have some footing and then consider HK or you’ll be right back on a plane to LA.

 

3) Until you have regulars, your appointments may be as reliable as the weather here in NYC. A lot of my fellow escorts who are prominent and have a large following from porn see dry-spells on occasion, simply because of...oversaturation. I think you’ll do very well once you make your debut here but after months/years in the same location, it just may not be as lucrative as traveling from city to city where you can garner a new client base and make more money simply because you’re unfamiliar. Time is money and sitting at home twiddling your thumbs waiting for the phone to ring isn’t going to pay that HK rent.

 

4) be honest. If you’re bold enough to be doing what you do, you should be bold enough to explain the truth. If you’re going to do it....do it. Who cares.

 

I hope I didn’t discourage you or sound negative but I want to be realistic with someone who is new to this. You have a reputation and clientele to build.

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Can one live comfortably in Manhattan on $80-90K/year?

Depends if it is net of taxes.

 

If it is:

Rent for one bedroom apartment: $40,000 per year.

Food, electricity, clothing, subway, etc. Less than $40,000? Sure you can manage to stay well below that.

 

Of course if you go to restaurants, drink and go clubbing regularly, then it will be a struggle.

 

If that is not net of taxes, these $80k are probably not enough to be confortable and also save something every year.

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Most of these have been answered....but I'm a sucker for multi-quotes:

 

Do my attributes, namely my body type, put me at a disadvantage considering all the muscled hunks?

It puts you at a disadvantage...in the "muscled hunk" market.

The real question is is there enough of a market for what you're selling?

Of course that partly depends on your price point and the product you're selling.

Based on your stated stats...I'd say you'll do fine....but of course we need to see PICS!

 

Is an in-call location absolutely essential for maximizing profits?

Yes. Period.

 

If I live on my own, would a studio north of 100th St be an unwise move?

Yes. No sane human is going up there to get laid.

I'm not saying I've never done it...but I wasn't sane.

In fact I'd say north of 59th is going to be a struggle.

 

I can't think of a believable cover-story.

There isn't one.

 

What can I say when they ask what my job is?

The truth shall set you free.....

In the meantime "I'm a trainer, personal assistant, waiter, bartender, actor, model".

That is...you're a typical cute New Yorker in his early 20's trying to survive.

Enjoy it....they were some of the best times of my life!

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My tip to you would be take In Calls. Maybe you save monthly a portion of rent, but compare that number to the amount of clients that could make it up. Imagine a client that primarily books In calls that could be a potential regular, your Out call exclusivity would turn him away.

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Where does your opportunity lie? I almost exclusively travel. I prepay flights 3 months out and hotels 1-2 months out. Yes, this requires thousands of dollars up front to maximize your profits, but it's essential. For me, I have regulars all over the country. Some of these clients book an hour, 2, 3, dinners, ONs, and weekends. Comparing my Net figures from my travel to my local (Utah) income, it's clear I'm making the right choice. I have a mortgage, so your paying rent to an unused apartment is a non issue for me.

 

Keep in mind that airline miles, hotel points, and loyalty for both can be very valuable. My 2017 points will be flying me to London, and Paris in August only using my points balances. Delta has also upgraded my coach ticket to 1st class on 10 of my last 21 flights. Something to keep in mind. @tristanbaldwin sure fares better for upgrades, but he's a damn globetrotter!

 

I'd suggest finding the best deal you can for an apartment you won't share. Location is key, so keep that in mind as well. From there, build up some local clientele. As time goes on, branch out and try out traveling a bit and see if it's for you or not.

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How difficult is it to get a nice Manhattan apartment if one doesn't have verifiable income?

 

That will be impossible. You'd need a guarantor or a lot of cash. Or, someone who knows what you're doing and trusts you to be able to pay the bills, and lets you move in with them.

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Can one live comfortably in Manhattan on $80-90K/year?

 

If that is gross income, after taxes, one can afford to live in Manhattan under these general conditions: you will need a roommate (or 2), or you'll live in a studio in a relatively undesirable location. You'll need to budget and would benefit from making some thrifty choices like cooking at home vs eating out, subway/bus vs taxi. You won't be going on any extravagant vacations or saving tons of money, but you can survive.

 

@JamieDelRey - first, welcome! i hope you'll enjoy the forum. so you know where i'm coming from, i live in nyc. i've lived here for 12+ years and have been escorting for about 3 years. i would take what @hypothetically said seriously. i admire your gumption, but attempting to move to nyc and start escorting is taking on a lot. moving to nyc is difficult - it's fast and expensive and even if you think you're ready for life here, it's still a shock and it takes a year or so to really feel like you've got the hang of things. you'll get lost, food will cost way more than you think. you'll feel lonely, it's loud and there are people everywhere. then, there's starting an escorting business - especially if you want that to be your sole source of income. there are more than 500+ guys here - it takes work, travel, and time to build up a reputation, which is how you keep your business going.

 

i do think it's worth doing some exploring, though. first, i would recommend participating in this forum. it's a great group of people and will help you find answers to questions, and let us get to know who you are. if you don't have an ad, i would suggest making one and linking to it in your signature, like you'll see i did below. then, i would make a trip to nyc - let us know about it in the "escort travel" section, tweet it out, put it on your ad/site/blog/whatever - then come here and see how it all works out.

 

i would love you to succeed and be here one day. i just don't want you to bite of more than you can chew and end up thinking that you failed when you're struggling or can't make rent or don't have clientele. moving to nyc is hard as fuck, but soooo worth it, and totally doable. it's not personal, it's just challenging. same with escorting. if you take your time, work consistently, and keep going, you can totally do it.

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moving to nyc is difficult - it's fast and expensive and even if you think you're ready for life here, it's still a shock and it takes a year or so to really feel like you've got the hang of things. you'll get lost, food will cost way more than you think. you'll feel lonely, it's loud and there are people everywhere.

My god...is it possible to be in love with someone you’ve never met?

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NYC is a difficult market to crack and a rewarding market to succeed in. Anyone who wants to move here to establish themselves as an escort should expect to struggle.

 

I think you have two realistic options unless you’re sitting on a bunch of savings you can use to fund your life until business picks up:

 

1) Minimise your expenses in NYC. This means don’t get your own apartment in Manhattan. Rent a cheap bedroom or a friend’s couch and establish some regular clients before you stick yourself with a huge monthly rent. NYC is expensive as hell and the market is oversaturated. Looks do not guarantee quick success... it takes lots of time and consistency to build a solid client base. You can use apps like Recharge or websites like DayUse to book hotel rooms to host Incalls. Having your own Incall apartment in NYC is living the gay hooker dream, and it’s definitely not amateur territory unless you have a lot of money to invest while your business builds.

 

2) Get a day job. Use the income from your day job to get that dreamy HK studio that’s perfect for Incall. Escort on the side until you have a good amount of clients. Then quit your day job when the time is right. Ta-da! You’re now a full-time escort in NYC...

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Excuse the tardiness of my reply. I was just trying to digest it all.

 

This was a little disappointing to hear, but I was expecting a reality check. As some of you mentioned, I think my best course of action would be to escort in the LA area and travel to NY and other cities, save some money, then move and try to find an incall location.

 

I'm not at all discouraged, but you've made me recognize that it will take longer than I anticipated. Plus, I can be more prepared.

 

And there's something I just have to ask, would a girth of roughly 6.5" repel much of the potential clientele? I don't say this to boast, but there haven't been many people who can take it in my personal life. This concerns me. Searching through this forum, I've noticed they enjoy above average girth, but most have their limits and won't hire someone they can't handle.

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And there's something I just have to ask, would a girth of roughly 6.5" repel much of the potential clientele? I don't say this to boast, but there haven't been many people who can take it in my personal life. This concerns me. Searching through this forum, I've noticed they enjoy above average girth, but most have their limits and won't hire someone they can't handle.

 

Oh honey.

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And there's something I just have to ask, would a girth of roughly 6.5" repel much of the potential clientele?

You realize 1/2 the members of this forum....just passed out...right?

 

We are not barely post-pubescent 20 year olds. We are men. It won't be a problem....trust me.

 

And those that can't handle it...will die trying.....don't worry.

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And there's something I just have to ask, would a girth of roughly 6.5" repel much of the potential clientele? I don't say this to boast, but there haven't been many people who can take it in my personal life. This concerns me. Searching through this forum, I've noticed they enjoy above average girth, but most have their limits and won't hire someone they can't handle.

I assure you if we can't take it in, we'll pay to suck it.

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