Escort to client transition

[escortrod]

I’m curious, have any of the members of this forum made the transition from renting to hiring?

 

 

I’m not quite there myself, and not sure if I ever will hire. That said a couple of my clients used to escort, and at least one still does so.

 

For those who have made the jump has your experience of renting influenced how you interact with escorts you hire?

[big-n-tall]

I know a few working guys who have hired escorts while still being escorts themselves.

 

Of the ones I know who have retired, I don't know if any of them hire. A few have families so I doubt it. One escort retiree was a porn star with a lot of porn star friends... I think he easily gets sex without hiring.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I know a few working guys who have hired escorts while still being escorts themselves.

 

Of the ones I know who have retired, I don't know if any of them hire. A few have families so I doubt it. One escort retiree was a porn star with a lot of porn star friends... I think he easily gets sex without hiring.

 

I do not think hiring has always to do with not having access to for free sex. I know it has never been the case for me and for many others.

Edited January 5, 2018 by latbear4blk

[BaronArtz]

Rod - I would encourage you to do it. It is a smart way to check out the competition and learn a few things. What are they doing well? What could they have done better? Enjoy!

[escortrod]

Rod - I would encourage you to do it. It is a smart way to check out the competition and learn a few things. What are they doing well? What could they have done better? Enjoy!

Hmm. I would consider it, but I'm rarely into guys around my own age, so I'd end up hiring somebody who isn't direct competition, or going through the motions with somebody I wasn't interested in. Not sure I want to pay for that privilege.

[+ José Soplanucas]

If I was a professional I would pay to play with someone who can teach me, or who can partner with me on exploring new skills. Let's say I have been providing a BFE vanilla service, and I want to explore something more kinky, I would look for someone who would be a good match to do that. I think it is better than experimenting with a client, although in the right circumstances there is nothing wrong about using a client as a lab rat if I have his consent.

[escortrod]

If I was a professional I would pay to play with someone who can teach me, or who can partner with me on exploring new skills. Let's say I have been providing a BFE vanilla service, and I want to explore something more kinky, I would look for someone who would be a good match to do that. I think it is better than experimenting with a client, although in the right circumstances there is nothing wrong about using a client as a lab rat if I have his consent.

Those are skills that I can explore without paying, though, without 'experimenting' on a client. With people that I'm attracted to and therefore more likely to engage with, at that. Or in the specific case of kinks there are some very good classes and workshops I could attend, rather than hiring another escort who may or may not be proficient.

 

(As it happens I've been into BDSM for most of the time I have been sexually active, and so am pretty proficient in bondage and other associated activities. I've done a few duos with other kinky escorts selected by clients, and been horrified by their lack of skill, and some of the risks they took with the client, which I would not allow them to take with me).

[+ José Soplanucas]

Those are skills that I can explore without paying, though, without 'experimenting' on a client. With people that I'm attracted to and therefore more likely to engage with, at that. Or in the specific case of kinks there are some very good classes and workshops I could attend, rather than hiring another escort who may or may not be proficient.

 

(As it happens I've been into BDSM for most of the time I have been sexually active, and so am pretty proficient in bondage and other associated activities. I've done a few duos with other kinky escorts selected by clients, and been horrified by their lack of skill, and some of the risks they took with the client, which I would not allow them to take with me).

 

Of course. I was just imagining a professional with a reputed expertise that could be a good hire to mentor you in any developing skills. And I was suggesting it just as one of the many potential reasons why a professional would hire a colleague.

[Rudynate]

Hmm. I would consider it, but I'm rarely into guys around my own age, so I'd end up hiring somebody who isn't direct competition, or going through the motions with somebody I wasn't interested in. Not sure I want to pay for that privilege.

 

The only reason to hire is because you want to. If you want to tell yourself that your hiring to check out the competiton, fine, but, in reality, if you ever do it, it will because you want to. And its pretty fucking great to think it over, select just the guy for you, hire him and let him make you happy. Sex for hire is different from unpaid sex. I have a partner - we have sex several times a month. I have FBs that I get together with from time to time without paying. But I still hire. It's a singular experience.

[LaffingBear]

Do what makes you feel good.

 

Don't think of it as transition, but expanding your pleasure.

 

To use extreme hypotheticals.... why shouldn't an S&M disciplinarian escort hire someone to read him fairy tales while painting his toenails?

 

Pursue happiness.

[BluDay]

If I was a professional I would pay to play with someone who can teach me

 

My bet is that if an escort wanted to practice or get some training, there would be a good number of clients posting here who would volunteer to donate their time - no fees necessary

[escortrod]

Do what makes you feel good.

 

Don't think of it as transition, but expanding your pleasure.

 

To use extreme hypotheticals.... why shouldn't an S&M disciplinarian escort hire someone to read him fairy tales while painting his toenails?

 

Pursue happiness.

To be honest I was specifically interested in the experiences of those who had made the jump, and whether their past experience had changed how they treat escorts. The thread just shifted a little.

[escortrod]

@escortrod just curious if you were to hire name some guys you would hire, we need links

what would you do with them and whats ur type

Ha. I don’t have a handy list I’m afraid, and I’m not sure there are many guys of my type who actually escort. Obviously there will be some, but I rarely spot them.

[big-n-tall]

I do not think hiring has always to do with not having access to for free sex. I know it has never been the case for me and for many others.

 

What are you on about? I never said that it did.

 

Please don’t make assumptions about a remark I made about one particular escort and imply something else from what you thought you read. It does both of us a disservice.

 

I do agree that hiring isn’t necessarily about having access to sex (free or otherwise), but that has nothing to do with what Rod asked and definitely not what I wrote.

[+ José Soplanucas]

What are you on about? I never said that it did.

 

Please don’t make assumptions about a remark I made about one particular escort and imply something else from what you thought you read. It does both of us a disservice.

 

I do agree that hiring isn’t necessarily about having access to sex (free or otherwise), but that has nothing to do with what Rod asked and definitely not what I wrote.

 

I did not make any general assumption. I was making my remark addressing specifically your last comment "...I think he easily gets sex without hiring". In the context of your post, you seem to imply that only someone who does not get easily sex without hiring would hire for sex.

[big-n-tall]

I did not make any general assumption. I was making my remark addressing specifically your last comment "...I think he easily gets sex without hiring". In the context of your post, you seem to imply that only someone who does not get easily sex without hiring would hire for sex.

 

I didn’t imply anything. You assumed I was talking about people in general when I made a comment about a particular retired porn star escort with porn friends. Your assumption... based on what you thought I implied, was that I was speaking about clients (in general) and why they hire. I spoke about one particular guy I know.

 

If you wish to continue to assume I implied something I didn’t... that is your prerogative. I won’t further argue about what I know I wrote.

 

Sorry @escortrod for sidetracking your topic.

Edited January 5, 2018 by big-n-tall

[+ José Soplanucas]

I didn’t imply anything. You assumed I was talking about people in general when I made a comment about a particular retired porn star escort with porn friends. Your assumption... based on what you thought I implied, was that I was speaking about clients (in general) and why they hire. I spoke about one particular guy I know.

 

If you wish to continue to assume I implied something I didn’t... that is your prerogative. I won’t further argue about what I know I wrote.

 

Sorry @escortrod for sidetracking your topic.

 

Maybe you need a drink? Or a joint?

[big-n-tall]

Maybe you need a drink? Or a joint?

 

Nope, perfectly fine. ...but thanks for being so dismissive. You all have a good night.

 

Carry on then folks.

[nate_sf]

For those who have made the jump has your experience of renting influenced how you interact with escorts you hire?

 

Yes definitely. I think the most significant thing has been knowing how the hire is arranged, structured, that I can ask for what I want, etc., which I've learned by being hired myself.

 

As @Rudynate mentions, the reason to hire is because you want to. Or as I would tell clients, you hire "who you want, for what you want, when you want it." Most significantly, you know they'll show up and will be professional, so you know you'll have a good time. It's great to be able to pick out a guy you're really attracted to, get to meet him, touch him, and just have a lot of fun.

 

I did some hiring when I was still escorting, and that created some wierdness in deciding whether or not to tell the guy I was also an escort. I wrote some blog posts about them at the time here and here. But now that I'm retired for the most part I usually don't make any mention of it.

[Cyd_StVincent]

I've been hired by several escorts - people who provide sexual care and attention focused on others want the opportunity to be selfish sometimes and what better way to experience than then hiring yourself?