Not sure how to handle this situation?

[Michael Paul]

I mentioned this in another thread about ' Over Nighters" I have been in a texting conversion with a potiential client since beginning of June. He lives out of state and was going to travel to have an overnight visit with me. Due to some surgery I had planned, he decided to wait until I had recovered. Well we continued to text all this time. Mostly sexual in nature as well as private stuff about our lives. Last week he told me that he has found someone he wanted to settle down with now. Which is great, this guy is someone from his past. He told me that he was still going to be able to see guys on the side. So seeing me would not an issue. I found out on Monday that I had to go back in for surgery to fix a problem that had developed. I let him know that day that was having surgery again. It was done yesterday 8-11-17.... I know it's complicated story.

 

My situation: The client has now told me that he does want to meet me and take me out to dinner, but nothing "fun" would happen. I don't know what to do at this point, because I have invested time in our texting . Trying to keep him interested in our overnight stay together. I mean long conversations over a 2 month time frame. My question is ... Do I just go out to dinner and expect nothing for the time we spent together on this dinner date or do I still treat this as a dinner date with a client?

[+ José Soplanucas]

This is a dinner date with a client. You have already invested enough out of the clock time on this guy.

If you had exchanged just a couple of texts, I would understand sharing a dinner out of the clock as an investment for your overnight contract. However, this seems to be a different case, you make it sound like you have been chatting for a long time, on a very personal and intimate level.

Time to start cashing.

[craigville beach]

if you schedule allows and it is on the clock, go on the dinner date. you never know what may develop and at least: your on the clock and getting good meal.

[+ sync]

Do I just go out to dinner and expect nothing for the time we spent together on this dinner date or do I still treat this as a dinner date with a client?

 

It is an interesting situation. My take would be to maintain the escort-client arrangement, and also keep him interested in an overnight stay, you might convey to the gentleman that because there will be no "fun" you will discount your hourly rate.

 

I hope things go well for the both you.

[mike carey]

My situation: The client has now told me that he does want to meet me and take me out to dinner, but nothing "fun" would happen. I don't know what to do at this point, because I have invested time in our texting . Trying to keep him interested in our overnight stay together. I mean long conversations over a 2 month time frame. My question is ... Do I just go out to dinner and expect nothing for the time we spent together on this dinner date or do I still treat this as a dinner date with a client?

The way I read this is that he is not expecting the time to be on the clock, rather that he just wants to buy you dinner. If he hasn't mentioned a fee for your time, I doubt he is thinking about that. I may be wrong, but it's something you need to clarify (if it matters to you). He may not have considered that paying for your time as well as the meal cost was even a thing, he may just think that buying you a meal is a nice gesture after all the chat time you've had. If he is travelling to buy you dinner, in his mind he is already spending a fair amount of money for an 'act of good faith'.

 

As has already has been said, if you can clarify the arrangements and payments to your mutual satisfaction it will likely strengthen the link you have.

[Whitman]

DICTIONARY

 

(the law of) diminishing returns

 

noun: law of diminishing returns: used to refer to a point at which the level of profits or benefits gained is less than the amount of money or energy invested.

[+ Topseed]

The time you've invested is a "sunk cost". It's gone. Go out for dinner with me if you wish, but this is not a path to recovering your time, imo.

[wklucas]

For better or worse, you are simply one of the "strangest" escort contributors to these forums ever.

[+ nycman]

I wouldn't expect a dinner with "no fun" to be on the clock.

 

However, I would have made that clear in my initial dinner offer.

 

"I'm sorry we haven't been able to work out getting together.

I'm in town next week and I'd love to take you out to dinner off the clock.

If not, no worries. Let me know either way. -nycman"

 

Communication is key. I don't think asking an escort to dinner off the clock

is rude or offensive. Conversely, if he's offended that you expect dinner with

no fun to be on the clock, then he's playing in the wrong sandbox.

[Guest]

oh no honey what is you doing

over 2 months texting back and forth without meeting

if I'm texting for someone longer than a week to set something up, I just tell them after that week to text me when they are able to set up a meet up, for situations like the one you wrote. All that time spent for just dinner, I wouldn't go to the dinner and stop the communication, your an escort not a date correct.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

You are selling your time: Whether it's of an adult nature or otherwise, you should expect to be paid accordingly.

 

You're not dating this gentleman: Are you in the business of giving away your company for free?

[gallahadesquire]

Sigh. You are professional. You are being paid for your time.

 

There's one guy around here who I'd gladly pay for his time just to be with him, but he's exceptional.

 

Maybe a lower fee, but he really should be paying you. My 2¢.

[wklucas]

You are selling your time: Whether it's of an adult nature or otherwise, you should expect to be paid accordingly.

 

You're not dating this gentleman: Are you in the business of giving away your company for free?

 

Sadly, your advice might be going to a guy who really can't afford to pass on a simple free meal offer.

[+ VictorPowers]

Dinner date with a client. I'd communicate that to him as well that it's you're e levitation to be compensated for your time. It's my opinion he only "downgraded" from an ON to a couple hours at dinner. No need to overthink it. Great job keeping in contact for so long.

[+ VictorPowers]

oh no honey what is you doing

over 2 months texting back and forth without meeting

if I'm texting for someone longer than a week to set something up, I just tell them after that week to text me when they are able to set up a meet up, for situations like the one you wrote. All that time spent for just dinner, I wouldn't go to the dinner and stop the communication, your an escort not a date correct.

I disagree. Investing a bit of time with the right clients can generate long lasting relationships. It's easier to keep a customer than find a new one.

[Guest]

I disagree. Investing a bit of time with the right clients can generate long lasting relationships. It's easier to keep a customer than find a new one.

 

a bit of time isn't over 2 months papi....

an escort shouldnt put so much time in making a client meet them, if a client truly wants to see you he will, I'm afraid he is stringing the op along and not valueing his time, hence why he only wants to take him to dinner after all this time, knowing he's an escort

[nate_sf]

Depends on whether you want dinner. If you accept, you should be OK with a scenario where you enjoy dinner with this person who you've been communicating for some time and presumably would enjoy their company, but that the promised overnight would not materialize in the future.

 

My gut (from experience) tells me, if the invitation for a off-the-clock platonic dinner is accepted, the overnight will never happen. If you're still hoping the overnight will happen, politely decline and say that you'll look forward to enjoying dinner together as part of the overnight appointment in the future.

[+ VictorPowers]

Well every client may have their own personal motives. Any good Escort should have a 6th sense for who is real and who is a time waster. In the end, we all handle our business differently. I live in an area where there is a very thin market for providers. If I receive some interest from a potential in a city I frequent, I will keep in contact to meet. It works in my best interest to do that, since clients don't just pour into SLC often.

[nate_sf]

For better or worse, you are simply one of the "strangest" escort contributors to these forums ever.

 

I say for better! I really enjoy Michael's posts and am glad to have him participating here in the forums.

[Kevin Slater]

It would have been wise to cut all this off months ago. Barring that, you could have asked for a booking deposit. The client didn't get you in this situation, you did.

 

Lastly, the likelihood of a booking actually happening is inversely proportional to the amount of communication beforehand. Why would he pay now when he's been getting cyber sex for free all these months?

 

Kevin Slater

[Mount N Do]

I disagree. Investing a bit of time with the right clients can generate long lasting relationships. It's easier to keep a customer than find a new one.

Excellent strategy Mr. Powers. Good business practice too. There's an escort I wish you could mentor. Spends so much time looking for the stars, he loses the moon.

[Deadlift1]

I'm with Mike Carey and Kevin Slater. This guy has entered the friend zone. You're screwed.

[Michael Paul]

Hey Guys..OP here ...First off I want to Thank all of you for your excellent advice. (With the exception of one.) Me being new to the escorting business, I have a lot to learn. In looking back , I should have told this client, that once I am healed from my surgery we can begin to discuss our time together. I just thought if I had not stayed in touch I could have lost a potentially well paying client. Which is why I choose to stay in touch. @VictorPowers ... you mention this as well.

I have reached out to this client again, but on a Escort bases about his proposed dinner as well as the time I invested in him. I am currently waiting to see if he replies, if at all. I know it is my fault @Kevin Slater . Like I said I have a lot to learn.... @nate_sf , thanks for what you said about me joining the forum.

Thanks to all of you.

[BaronArtz]

The client didn't get you in this situation, you did.

 

 

That is indeed the gist of it. The overnight appointment could have happened a long time ago, but you kept stalling the client because of your series of surgeries. That is not the client's fault. If anything, this client has been very patient with you. As a client, I would have moved on to someone who is actually available. You are not the only escort in Atlanta ...

 

Have you not been able to see any clients at all during the last 2 months? Consider taking down your ad. Not everybody is as patient as this client.

 

Hope you recover soon.

[mike carey]

You are not the only escort in Atlanta ...

Quite so, but as Michael said, the overnight required the prospective client to travel, so his location in Atlanta is irrelevant. There must have been something else about Michael in particular that prompted the client to continue the discussion.