The Power of B N

[ErikMcAlister]

Well, on being an ass.

 

">I'm reasonably sure he was being facetious.

So you speak for Packy?"

 

I was merely expressing my opinion that his post was meant to be funny. You missed it. As it turns out, I was right, wasn't I?

[Guest zipperzone]

>Of course. You're unable to admit that you might have jumped

>the gun.

>OH... I bet you'll make some not-so-veiled threat against my

>posting privileges (note: they're not rights; we get it!)

>now.... SCARY!

>It must be truly overwhelming to hold such power.

 

Anybody get the feeling that they have been to this party before?

[+ deej]

>I have never demanded that a thread be locked.

 

<cough, cough>

 

Come again?

[Rick Munroe]

When have I demanded or asked that a thread be locked? :o

[Flower]

>Knowing him the thread

>will disappear without a trace to be found

 

 

That's a goodpoint--do YOU know him? From what I see on this whiny, bullshit thread is a bunch of crybabies like yourself and Houston Bonfires who have so much time on their hands they spend it tearing down people they don't know and who have done them no bad turn!

 

Deej's post below TOTALLY DISCREDITS Houston Bonfires' original post, casting a lot of doubt on his veracity all the while making him out an even greater (if that's possible) whiner than I thought when I first read his post. What a crybaby--get over yourself and your cheap restaurant!

 

It'd be one thing if one of you crybabies said you hired BN and were disappointed--that he cheated or didn't provide a good time or whatever, but I don't see that nor have I ever seen that here.

 

All I see here are stupid, negative comments by a few jealous escorts, a bunch of old queens that don't know BN but love to hate him for whatever reason, and a kid that has more time than brains who shows up here all the time, making judgmental remarks for one who professes to be so liberal and above it all, but obviously enjoys the virtual companionship he evidently gets on the MC!

 

Except for deservedly telling a couple of you to fuck off the other day, I haven't seen Benjamin say or do anything negative to or about anyone here, nor has anyone ever said he has--but for some reason you want to tear him down because he is popular--seems a little elementary school to me--no, that's giving you too much credit--preschoolers is how you're acting.

 

Me?--sure I like Benjamin and I consider him a good and dear friend (here we go--post your trite comments), and while I have not before jumped to his defense as one of his regular cheerleaders here, nor am I, this time is different for many reasons. You just don't kick people when they haven't hurt you and especially you don't kick someone when they're down, no matter how you misinterpret their blog, mis-infer their meanings or justify your slams as all's fair against a "public figure" --at least decent people don't, so read between the lines!

[+ deej]

>Anybody get the feeling that they have been to this party

>before?

 

Don't be alarmed. It's just EthanErik asserting his alpha-male-ness again.

[ErikMcAlister]

>From what I see on this whiny, bullshit thread is a bunch of

>crybabies like yourself and Houston Bonfires who have so much

>time on their hands they spend it tearing down people they

>don't know and who have done them no bad turn!

 

Why is failing to drool in ecstatic reverence tearing someone down???

 

>What a

>crybaby--get over yourself and your cheap restaurant!

 

Why the need to change the restaurant in the first place? If you don't like the way some people plan to gather to remember someone, don't join them.

 

>It'd be one thing if one of you crybabies said you hired BN

>and were disappointed--that he cheated or didn't provide a

>good time or whatever, but I don't see that nor have I ever

>seen that here.

 

Nobody is suggesting that he rips his clients off.

 

>All I see here are stupid, negative comments by a few jealous

>escorts

 

Stupid only because you don't agree. As an escort who has posted here, I can promise that the one thing I am NOT is jealous of Mr. Nicholas. I don't ever want to have my head shoved that far up my own ass. There are many ways to escort. Mine works for me.

 

 

>obviously enjoys the virtual companionship he

>evidently gets on the MC!

 

Why do YOU come here?

 

>Except for deservedly telling a couple of you to fuck off the

>other day, I haven't seen Benjamin say or do anything negative

>to or about anyone here

 

Yes he has. He's said that escorts who don't do things his way are not providing quality service.

 

>but

>for some reason you want to tear him down because he is

>popular

 

Not because he's popular, but rather because he's pompous.

 

>preschoolers is how you're

>acting.

 

And this tirade from you--how would you characterize IT?

 

>Me?--sure I like Benjamin

 

You're kidding!

 

>you don't kick someone when they're down

 

It would be wise for those who are "up" not to kick, lest they be kicked while down. Maybe he should continue to insist that his way is the only way for him, while perhaps conceding that others--who don't do things his way--still provide valuable service to their clients.

Regardless, I don't think anyone here (correct me if I'm wrong) wishes anything but the best of outcomes for Ben's mother, though.

[ErikMcAlister]

Careful... people will begin to think you're BofN.

[+ deej]

Your hand is played.

 

Fold 'em if you've got 'em.

[ErikMcAlister]

Care to explain???

[Doug69]

>Jay, you brought this on yourself kiddo.

 

I think you're all being a little too hard on Jay.

 

After all, as he explains on his website, "Ganymede" used to be a mortal whose beauty surpassed all other mortals. For this reason, he was kidnapped by Zeus and forced to serve as the cup-bearer for all of the Gods on Olympus.

 

If it was YOU whose beauty was so great that you got abducted by the God of all Gods because he needed to be around your beauty forever, I'm sure you'd have some emotional trauma from that event and would ask for some slack from other people.

 

Shouldn't we be giving the same considertion to Jay of Ganymede, whose beauty, as he points out, has made him trascend mere mortals and become the object of love from the Gods?

 

It's a burden which I'm sure is quite difficult to bear, and - just out of basic human decency - we should be a little more willing to forgive his petulant, self-righteous bitchy outbursts than we would for actual mortals.

[Doug69]

>From what I see on this whiny, bullshit thread is a bunch of

>crybabies like yourself and Houston Bonfires who have so much

>time on their hands they spend it tearing down people they

>don't know and who have done them no bad turn!

 

>All I see here are stupid, negative comments by a few jealous

>escorts, a bunch of old queens that don't know BN but love to

>hate him for whatever reason, and a kid that has more time

>than brains who shows up here all the time, making judgmental

>remarks for one who professes to be so liberal and above it

>all, but obviously enjoys the virtual companionship he

>evidently gets on the MC!

 

Let us take a moment to pause here, shall we, and notice how Flower writes a long, emotionally distraught post in which he:

 

(a) angrily rails against people who, according to Flower,"have so much time on their hands they spend it tearing down people they don't know and who have done them no bad turn!";

 

(b) only to then, himself, spend the rest of his post viciously "tearing down people (he doesn't) know and who have done (him) no bad turn!"

 

In other words, Flower has come here to preach scorn and anger towards people who criticize certain individuals whom Flower likes on the ground that it's wrong to say bad things about participants here. Then, after Flower is done sermonizing about the evils of saying bad things about people who post here, he proceeds to spit out a litany of extremely angry, personal insults against the people he doesn't like who post here.

 

So, to summarize: it's a terrible, inexcusable sin to say critical things about the people here whom Flower likes (BN). But it's perfectly OK, even justified, for Flower to spew hateful insults at the people here whom Flower dislikes.

 

It's self-evident that this behavior is a form of grotesque hypocrisy, but when it's this extreme, doesn't it also become a form of self-delusion so wild and unrestrained that it really begins to border on some sort of personality disorder?

[Bilbo]

Hi,

I'm one of the two organizers of that particular Houston get together. Also known as one of the two people who showed up at it.

Down here we are sometimes a bit more democratic than is efficient. We spent a week or two trying to hammer out the details on where and when we would meet. I'm sure that we had bored everyone else into probably not coming. One thing we had agreed upon was which restaurant. Then BN suggested another one. Well, knowing that BN is more popular than I am, I reasoned that if we went ahead with his suggestion instead of mine that we might attract more people. BN had said all along that he would attend if he was in state that day. Guess he wasn't. And no-one else around here who loves him decided to come. I won't say that they had advanced warning any more than I did, since I hadn't really expected him to be there.

I felt at the time that he had been a bit high handed in his grief. Along the lines of "I knew Hoo and you two losers didn't." However, the other organizer reassured me that he didn't see any of that in it.

Yes, it did shift us from a more affordable restaurant to one which for me, the head of a struggling chartiable institution, was a bit of a stretch. But, I figured that if it really was where Hoo used to go that that made it worth it to me.

That restaurant has two sides, very split off from each other. One was having a live jazz brunch and the other wasn't. We opted for the jazz. So, maybe we took the wrong side? Because BN had told us that it was a good place for boy watching. All of the other men in the restaurant were married and straight and most of them not all that good looking even for straight men. Were we supposed to be out on the balcony watching the street? Well, probably not on a Sunday morning.

We haven't scheduled a second get together yet. Partly because my confrere (Spelling?) said that he travels a lot and would be out of town for a while, partly becuase I'm in the midst of directing, teching and acting in two plays at once, opening within a week of each other, the first this next Friday. However, we did decide that day that when we do it again we will be moving it back to the location I had originally proposed.

 

Now, just because I allowed BN to kick me around doesn't mean that anyone else does. It doesn't show that he has undue influence around here. It shows, perhaps, that I'm a bit weak as a leader when I'm trying to get people together outside of my dungeon, people I've never met in person. However, it certainly doesn't show that BN or at least the perception of BN has no power around here.

 

I've been around here long enough that I have seen at least three young guys, largely because of their wit, become stars around here. I miss Matt of Vancouver. I'm glad that Munroe is still here. I agree that this is mighty poor timing to be kicking BN. (So perhaps this was bad timing to try to explain what happened with the Houston gathering, but y'all are discussing it, and I was there.)

 

(And I am glad that there are other escorts, like Franco and Juan, and maybe me, who occaisionally steal the show akin to Ustinov in certain movies. Not the star, but who do you watch when they're on screen together?)

[Bilbo]

We swithced from Barnaby's to Ruggle's.

[Guest ReturnOfS]

Oh Benjamin Nicholas? He's a sweetie. :-)

[Guest LG320126]

What a bunch of sick fucks!!!!

[ErikMcAlister]

Yes, yes. Anyone who doesn't fall prostrate at the mere mention of Benjamin's name is a despicably sick fuck. We've been over that.

[ErikMcAlister]

>It doesn't show that he has undue

>influence around here.

>However, it

>certainly doesn't show that BN or at least the perception of

>BN has no power around here.

 

Exactly how many others have gotten threads locked just because they didn't like what was being said about them?

Right... and BN has no undue influence.

[Guest 8mile]

My point excatly. Sometimes it's hard.

 

As Usual

Zachary

[BewareofNick]

>>Anybody get the feeling that they have been to this party

>>before?

>

>Don't be alarmed. It's just EthanErik asserting his

>alpha-male-ness again.

 

Why, deej, I'm touched. I've missed these little spats between you and Ethan.

 

Seriously, though, I hope you've learned your lesson about locking threads at the whim of an escort. I know your intentions were good, but see what it spawned? And they are right about BN's favored son status.

[+ deej]

>Seriously, though, I hope you've learned your lesson about

>locking threads at the whim of an escort. I know your

>intentions were good, but see what it spawned? And they are

>right about BN's favored son status.

 

Actually, no whim was involved. If you came to us with the same reason we'd extend the same courtesy to you. I will NOT apologize for having compassion when it is deserved.

 

There's been a lot of speculation and accusation going on, but little of it is factual and most of it would be funny (to someone who knows the reality) if it wasn't so hurtful.

 

But this is the kind of freedom you guys want. Go ahead. Wallow in the mud.

[Rick Munroe]

Nice to see you got that little cough taken care of, deej. :7

[Guest 8mile]

What's quite funny is that you keep staying how hilarious it is if we actually knew the situation. It's becoming repetitive. Don't blame the public for not understanding when you have no interest of helping them understand.

 

"Trust me when I say, NO NEW TAXES"

 

As Usual

Zachary

[BewareofNick]

I understand BN being upset because of the situation with his mother. My heart goes out to him. I personally have nothing against BN and think he's a hot and sexy guy.

 

The real issue here is the moderators and why certain posters, like BN, are given facored son status. The decision to lock thread was obviously a stupid one. Had you not locked the thread, the other two would not have sprung up. Both threads have taken on a life of their own that most likely would have never occurred on the original thread.

 

The other aspect of these threads is the negativity towards BN by some posters, which was borne out of the fawning reverence of others. The blame for all of this lies squarely at the feet of the moderators and the short sighted decision to lock the original thread.

[Guest ChgoBoy]

>The real issue here is the moderators and why certain posters,

>like BN, are given facored son status. The decision to lock

>thread was obviously a stupid one. Had you not locked the

>thread, the other two would not have sprung up. Both threads

>have taken on a life of their own that most likely would have

>never occurred on the original thread.

 

Well BON, you forget the fact that not only did the thread get locked, They deleted my two posts immediately before and after BN's. (**Glares at Deej**)Legit posts that were not disrespectful or outside of MC rules. They wanted to "clean up" the post and give BN the final word, which I thought was designed for the Review site only. It's one thing to lock a thread, quite another to censor and delete thought.

 

ChgoBoy