Porn Star Blu Kennedy arrested with boyfriend for possessing Child Porn

[InterestingGuy]

Former porn star Blu Kennedy and his boyfriend were arrested for child porn:

 

http://str8upgayporn.com/former-gay-porn-star-blu-kennedy-arrested-for-possession-of-hundreds-of-files-of-child-porn/

 

Do you think the boyfriend will get a harsher sentence because he traded it as well?

[+ WmClarke]

Do you think the boyfriend will get a harsher sentence because he traded it as well?

Yes. And deservedly so.

[BasketBaller]

Whenever I read about yet another celebrity/teacher/coach/Scoutmaster arresting for possession of child pornography I have the same reaction-- I don't get it. I understand that there are those who call even the most vanilla gay sex "perverted," and likewise for kinky straight sex. So I know one's turn-ons can't really be explained or understood by those who don't share them. But, putting on my dad hat here, I can't imagine what's appealing about exploiting children this way. I've posted before that I am not even comfortable with attraction to guys my sons' age, which would be legal but too disquieting for me to pursue. So the notion of collecting stuff like this, whose illegality hits the news every few days it seems, mystifies me. And truth to tell, saddens and sickens me.

[AndreFuture]

Whenever I read about yet another celebrity/teacher/coach/Scoutmaster arresting for possession of child pornography I have the same reaction-- I don't get it. I understand that there are those who call even the most vanilla gay sex "perverted," and likewise for kinky straight sex. So I know one's turn-ons can't really be explained or understood by those who don't share them. But, putting on my dad hat here, I can't imagine what's appealing about exploiting children this way. I've posted before that I am not even comfortable with attraction to guys my sons' age, which would be legal but too disquieting for me to pursue. So the notion of collecting stuff like this, whose illegality hits the news every few days it seems, mystifies me. And truth to tell, saddens and sickens me.

I don't get the appeal either, but then again, I also don't understand why our (U.S.) society is so sexually dysfunctional and violent. If we had healthy concepts of sex and sexuality, children wouldn't be "dirtied" or "robbed" of their "innocence" simply because we allow them to be full sexual beings in their own right; adults wouldn't have to sneak off to have sexual relations with people of disparate ages; consent wouldn't be a buzz word because everyone would know what it meant— I could go on. As it is now, sex is a vile/violent thing in our society and used to enact violence against more vulnerable people, such as children. So, we see that belief reflected in our laws and in how people sexually interact with each other , especially along power imbalances.

[RM]

Why on earth would anyone use a work wifi to upload any sexual content?

[rvwnsd]

Several children exploited and a psychiatrist's career ruined. What the hell are these people thinking?

[+ quoththeraven]

Why on earth would anyone use a work wifi to upload any sexual content?

'Tis a puzzlement. I thought the same thing too.

[mike carey]

Why on earth would anyone use a work wifi to upload any sexual content?

'Tis a puzzlement. I thought the same thing too.

An overweening sense of entitlement, and confidence that they are completely untouchable.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Why on earth would anyone use a work wifi to upload any sexual content?

 

It happens pretty often. Specially now with the proliferation of VPN apps.

[+ sync]

From assaulting children, to a myriad of financial frauds, to manipulating national elections, it seems every day that goes by renders a vivid validation of Mary Shelly's Frankenstein warning for us to control technology and not let technology control us.

[+ Gar1eth]

If we had healthy concepts of sex and sexuality, children wouldn't be "dirtied" or "robbed" of their "innocence" simply because we allow them to be full sexual beings in their own right; s

I'll have to vehemently disagree. That's the point. Children are not and should not be considered to be sexual beings/objects. That sounds like a position NAMBLA would take to me.

 

I know there might be people on this Forum who when young were attracted to older men (when I say young I mean 16 to 17 or younger). And if not on this Forum, I've definitely met adults through the apps who tell me that as pre-legal age teenagers they liked and met older men. Now being adults they tell me that it caused them no problem. But in my mind that still doesn't make it right. What about all the children it might have damaged? There is too much of an imbalance of power in an adult and a pre-legal age child.

 

Gman

[AndreFuture]

I'll have to vehemently disagree. That's the point. Children are not and should not be considered to be sexual beings/objects.

 

You're entitled to your opinion. But this opinion, which is quite entrenched in society, ended up robbing me of a fundamental part of my humanity that I had to work extremely hard to restore. That is unethical and downright dangerous.

 

I was born a human being, and have been one my entire life. Being that I am human, I am also a sexual creature, a social creature, and these traits didn't magically pop up at 11:59 on my 17th year of life.

 

I had a relatively healthy social space in which to develop before and up to this time because the society I was raised in recognized this human aspect and chose to facilitate its healthy growth and development rather that suppress it. I got to interact with people of all ages and learn and see modeled appropriate and inappropriate ways of social interaction. I was encouraged to talk about these kinds of human-human interactions among peers, with trusted adults, and I grew for the better.

 

Conversely, I had little to no sexual space in which to develop. I was not encouraged to properly explore or understand my own sexuality, I was given extremely limited opportunities to see healthy functional sexual interactions modeled. I was not encouraged to talk about these kinds of human-human interactions among peers or trusted adults (though of course, (mis)information would be spread through whispered voices among peers).

 

I suppose the logic of this approach towards sex is if you suppress a natural trait for 18 years, label it as damaging, dirty, vile, shameful, violent, sinful, and just all around problematic, you'll wind up with well-adjusted, informed, sexually mature adults who know and understand healthy, consensual ways of sexually engaging with other people.

 

Clearly this approach has worked out well for us.

[mike carey]

@Gar1eth I took [uSER=12528]@FTM_Twink[/uSER]'s post differently, as he has just explained, keeping sexuality under wraps for children puts it off limits for reasonable discussions (apart from the sexualised imagery used in advertising and exemplified by the bizarre child 'beauty pageants' incolving JonBenet Ramsey). The taboo means that abusers can use the idea that discussion of anything sexual is off limits to convince their victims that they, the victims, are somehow culpable.

 

A separate but related problem, to my mind, is that the denigration of sex in general and the view that gay sex is somehow perverted, and the unwillingness to discuss consent in any meaningful way paints all sex as somehow dirty and not a subject for discussion in polite society. Demeaning all sex in this way serves to blur what would otherwise be a clear line between consensual sex between adults and anything involving minors. As long as sex is seen as some sort of evil, people like Nambla can claim that what they are talking about is a distinction between levels of evil, not for what it is, evil that is absolute.

[SuenosAmor]

Bad decisions. The vast majority of adults who are into kiddie porn were sexually abused as children. How severe the outcome will depend on how old the victim was at the start of the abuse and how long it continued. Not condoning what these guys did at all, but I understand.

[buckguy]

The wifi is probably monitored and I would guess that the monitoring was what tipped off law enforcement. There's always someone who argues about Puritanical attitudes, etc. and hijacks the conversation but I think it boils down to this------institutional wifi systems usually let people know that monitoring occurs and an environment where someone a lot of info around consent, status of minors, etc. occurs should be a clue that the institution might care about something like this.

[AndreFuture]

@Gar1eth I took [uSER=12528]@FTM_Twink[/uSER]'s post differently, as he has just explained, keeping sexuality under wraps for children puts it off limits for reasonable discussions (apart from the sexualised imagery used in advertising and exemplified by the bizarre child 'beauty pageants' incolving JonBenet Ramsey). The taboo means that abusers can use the idea that discussion of anything sexual is off limits to convince their victims that they, the victims, are somehow culpable.

 

A separate but related problem, to my mind, is that the denigration of sex in general and the view that gay sex is somehow perverted, and the unwillingness to discuss consent in any meaningful way paints all sex as somehow dirty and not a subject for discussion in polite society. Demeaning all sex in this way serves to blur what would otherwise be a clear line between consensual sex between adults and anything involving minors. As long as sex is seen as some sort of evil, people like Nambla can claim that what they are talking about is a distinction between levels of evil, not for what it is, evil that is absolute.

I personally don't care about adults and their sexual access to children, and I'm not sexually interested in children. I care about healthy sexuality in general, and the damage that comes from depriving people from an early age about this fundamental aspect of themselves.

 

Though I probably would have enjoyed a relationship with an adult if I had the opportunity. It might explain why I have a thing for daddies now...hmm.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I personally don't care about adults and their sexual access to children, and I'm not sexually interested in children. I care about healthy sexuality in general, and the damage that comes from depriving people from an early age about this fundamental aspect of themselves.

 

Though I probably would have enjoyed a relationship with an adult if I had the opportunity. It might explain why I have a thing for daddies now...hmm.

 

I love you for being brave enough to confront this tabu. I'm not. I agree 100% with you, but every time I see in the forums the moralist talking points I choose to shut up. I do not think we are ready for a rational discussion about this topic.

[MikeyGMin]

I know there might be people on this Forum who when young were attracted to older men (when I say young I mean 16 to 17 or younger).

I'm one of them. I have mentioned before that I was an extremely predatory teenager when it came to men in their mid to late twenties. They were great experiences for me and something I treasure to this day. While I put these men at risk legally, they were in no way perverts because they succumbed to the blatant advances of someone in their late teens.

 

Although I highly doubt these two men in question were collecting and trading pictures of almost legal young men and that's a very different situation.

[AndreFuture]

I love you for being brave enough to confront this tabu. I'm not. I agree 100% with you, but every time I see in the forums the moralist talking points I choose to shut up. I do not think we are ready for a rational discussion about this topic.

I don't think we'll ever be ready, to be honest. (But I also didn't think Trump would be president, so who can predict the future?)

 

We're kinda starting to touch on this with recent efforts to address issues like toxic masculinity, rape culture, and consent, but I believe most of those are the symptoms of sexual dysfunction, and not the root cause.

[+ quoththeraven]

Bad decisions. The vast majority of adults who are into kiddie porn were sexually abused as children. How severe the outcome will depend on how old the victim was at the start of the abuse and how long it continued. Not condoning what these guys did at all, but I understand.

There are some people who are only sexually attracted to children. They are not disproportionately abuse victims and mandatory reporting laws make it difficult to give them therapeutic support because of the fear of prosecution if it comes out that a client revealed such a proclivity as opposed to actual abuse. The vast majority of practices resolve this in favor of mandatory reporting when the proclivity is revealed, which also ends any possibility of trust or treatment.

 

How this interacts with child porn is unclear. It may be that the taboo and power dynamics are more important than the singularity of attraction.

[marylander1940]

Former porn star Blu Kennedy and his boyfriend were arrested for child porn:

 

http://str8upgayporn.com/former-gay-porn-star-blu-kennedy-arrested-for-possession-of-hundreds-of-files-of-child-porn/

 

Do you think the boyfriend will get a harsher sentence because he traded it as well?

 

WTF... sick!

 

There are some people who are only sexually attracted to children. They are not disproportionately abuse victims and mandatory reporting laws make it difficult to give them therapeutic support because of the fear of prosecution if it comes out that a client revealed such a proclivity as opposed to actual abuse. The vast majority of practices resolve this in favor of mandatory reporting when the proclivity is revealed, which also ends any possibility of trust or treatment.

 

How this interacts with child porn is unclear. It may be that the taboo and power dynamics are more important than the singularity of attraction.

 

@quoththeraven thank you for your analysis, I wonder if meth had something to do with this too. Some folks just can't think about actions/possible consequences when it comes to sex while on meth, is like the idea of breaking a taboo keeps dragging them.

 

I've met Blu years ago and he had a lot of attitude, beyond trailer park.

[+ Gar1eth]

I'm one of them. I have mentioned before that I was an extremely predatory teenager when it came to men in their mid to late twenties. They were great experiences for me and something I treasure to this day. While I put these men at risk legally, they were in no way perverts because they succumbed to the blatant advances of someone in their late teens.

 

Although I highly doubt these two men in question were collecting and trading pictures of almost legal young men and that's a very different situation.

 

It's one thing for a mid-20 year old and a 17 year old than a 17 and a 50 year old. But even then the imbalance of power It would be too easy for the older guy to take advantage. Why do I get the feeling that this kind of sex might lead to a higher percentage of barebacking?

 

And say if you are exactly right, @MikeyGMin, that it caused no psychological harm to you, what about the fact that it's probably not good for a majority of younger guys who experience it? Shouldn't it remain illegal for them rather than the few for whom it is ok?

 

Gman

[+ quoththeraven]

I love you for being brave enough to confront this tabu. I'm not. I agree 100% with you, but every time I see in the forums the moralist talking points I choose to shut up. I do not think we are ready for a rational discussion about this topic.

It's not just a matter of rationality but harm prevention. It's difficult if not impossible from the outside to distinguish between those relationships that are healthy and those that constitute sexual abuse, teens are not good judges of that, and the adults are self-interested. Hence the legal line-drawing.

 

Personally I think preventing lifelong psychological trauma to kids at the hands of adults is a compelling reason even if the ratio isn't 100%. You are also forgetting that the age of consent varies, not every adult/minor relationship is criminalized (relationships with an age gap of less than x number of years are often exempted from such laws) unless the adult is in a position of trust and authority (like a teacher) or the child is under the age of 13, and most such relationships never result in charges anyway.

 

I would be more inclined to agree with your characterization of the discussion as lacking in rationality if you acknowledged and discussed the extensive psychological research on this subject. To not acknowledge (or seemingly care) about the potential for harm is also irrational.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

If guilty, let's hope they spend a long, long time rotting in a cell

[AndreFuture]

I think a significant amount of the danger in sexual relations between adults and children comes from the illegality. Kind of like the dangers of prostitution come from the fact that it's illegal and pushed underground. If kids could have open and honest conversations about their sexuality, there would be less opportunity for them to be preyed upon.

 

Yet, there are also huge amounts of power imbalances between adult men and women. But those relationships aren't illegal (though, IMHO they probably should be!) I've seen and know about way too many toxic hetero relationships throughout human history that women were coerced into because they're "supposed to" and (any) hetero marriage is The Moral™ relationship.

 

In both children-adults and men-women relationships there's power differentials, AND an external coercive pressure (to either abstain (child-adult) or succumb (man-woman)). The underlying problem with both cases is society dictating what is an appropriate sexual relationship for people, but not actually accounting for the wants and needs of individuals.