Porn Star Blu Kennedy arrested with boyfriend for possessing Child Porn

[caliguy]

When I was 14 I was ready - if opportunity had reared its lovely head, I would have been overjoyed. I would mention, though, that HIV was not an issue back then. When I was 14 I didn't care about driving.

I was ready at 14 also. It didn't rear its head until 15 but it was oh-so-lovely.

As long as it's just two 14 yo's or close in ages. An adult thinking it's a-ok is a whole other matter all together.

[Phil_musc]

But I wasn't attracted to my 14 year old peers then.

[MikeyGMin]

As long as it's just two 14 yo's or close in ages. An adult thinking it's a-ok is a whole other matter all together.

I actually agree. My youngest encounters were with boys my own age. It took a year before I decided they were lacking and started chasing older guys and putting them at legal risk.

[sincitymix]

When I was 14 I was ready - if opportunity had reared its lovely head, I would have been overjoyed. I would mention, though, that HIV was not an issue back then. When I was 14 I didn't care about driving.

i agree. i knew who and what i wanted, at a very young age.

If i had the opportunity i would have been all over the marines, army, and air force guys i was surrounded by.

I guess that explains why my dad said if he ever caught me at the barracks, hed beat my ass

[AndreFuture]

I'm late to this thread but having read it all plus the str8upgayporn item, I'm surprised at the range of opinions here (silly me, I know). But ftm_twink's position (if I understand it correctly) seems to be that we don't have a rational coherent position on sexuality as a part of human existence. (That's probably way too simplified - it's more nuanced than that). I think that is correct. Just last evening I was rummaging around online and read up on the legal business that shut down Mike Dozer's life. In that situation, an underage boy mis-represented himself (actually lied about his age on an online gay dating site) and met up with Dozer. Something like two years later, said boy tells parents who go legal-ballistic. Dozer is arrested and ultimately pleads guilty and is now serving a 17.5 year sentence -or something like that - it might be 25. True the waters are muddied here in that Dozer may not have divulged his HIV status to the boy. But the sentence came back because of the underage aspect, not the failure to disclose point.

 

My point is not that these cases are analogous, but it does seem to reinforce the idea that we have many issues about sex and morality which is only further complicated by balance of power considerations. In Dozer's case, it was pointed out that murderers got less jail time than he did. In Blu's case, what is the age of the children involved? There is a big difference between 9 and 14, IMHO.

 

But why deal with nuance when it's more personally gratifying to suppress another person's sexuality for nearly 2 decades and create a dysfunctional human being at the same time? And then make up straw-men and slippery slopes when an alternate view is presented on an online forum?

[+ Gar1eth]

When I was 14 I was ready - if opportunity had reared its lovely head, I would have been overjoyed. I would mention, though, that HIV was not an issue back then. When I was 14 I didn't care about driving.

 

I was ready at 14 also. It didn't rear its head until 15 but it was oh-so-lovely.

 

i agree. i knew who and what i wanted, at a very young age.

If i had the opportunity i would have been all over the marines, army, and air force guys i was surrounded by.

I guess that explains why my dad said if he ever caught me at the barracks, hed beat my ass

 

The point is not that you felt you were ready. There's a good chance you weren't. We don't (legally) let 14 year olds drink or get married even if they think they are old enough to.

 

I don't know whether any of you are parents. But if you are, how would you feel about your 14 old having sex with a 45 year old-even a 25 year old?

 

Gman

[+ quoththeraven]

I don't think most teens are emotionally ready for sex - at least not het sex - but some of that is due to our screwed up ideas about sex, sexual expression, contraception and gender. I had sex for the first time at 19 and still wasn't ready because of my lack of knowledge and emotional preparedness. And unlike many girls/women, I had a considerate partner who made sure we both enjoyed ourselves.

 

Keep in mind though that age of consent laws are irrelevant here. We're talking about adults viewing, saving and trading photos of kids under 18 in sexual or sexually enticing poses, not about sexual relationships that are at least ostensibly consensual. I have seen very little to suggest that the kind of images that are the subject of child porn investigations are not the result of coercion. Not infrequently the children that appear in them are also the victims of kidnapping or molestation above and beyond the photos and video, and the purpose of such laws are at least in part to provide disincentives for engaging in those other crimes.

 

It's worth asking if penalties for those who merely view and trade images are overly harsh by comparison to penalties for other crimes. On the other hand, there's an argument that without the market such people create, fewer children would be exploited in this fashion and that long sentences serve as a deterrent. (I'm not sure the latter is true.) There's also an element of primal, irrational and hypocritical disgust that fuels widespread support for such penalties, particularly as they apply to photos of older teens, whom society clearly finds sexually desirable but likes to pretend it doesn't. Fun fact: in states with ages of consent below 18, possession or distribution of sexual photos is child porn even though sex between the parties is legal.

 

I guess that puts me all over the map on this one.

[+ Gar1eth]

There's also an element of primal, irrational and hypocritical disgust that fuels widespread support for such penalties, particularly as they apply to photos of older teens, whom society clearly finds sexually desirable but likes to pretend it doesn't.

 

I don't want to look at photos of older teens. But I'm definitely more disgusted by the thought of young children in sexual poses.

 

Gman

[AndreFuture]

But I'm definitely more disgusted by the thought of young children in sexual poses.

 

Gman

Does the thought arouse uncomfortable feelings in you, like shame or guilt?

[+ Gar1eth]

I don't want to look at photos of older teens. But I'm definitely more disgusted by the thought of young children in sexual poses.

 

Gman

 

Does the thought arouse uncomfortable feelings in you, like shame or guilt?

 

Not in the least. I have no attraction to children whatsoever. You may believe me or not as you wish.

 

Gman

[AndreFuture]

Not in the least. I have no attraction to children whatsoever. You may believe me or not as you wish.

 

Gman

I believe you if you say so. Im in no position to probe or project. I like to give others the courtesy I hope they will in turn give me: to not read more into what someone has said, if they stand by what they've said.

 

I was just curious about the source of your discomfort around sex. Like you

, I also have no interest in children (or anyone younger than me, really), but I also don't believe sex to be disgusting or sinful, so the knowledge that people under 18 can be sexual beings doesn't disturb me. If kids want to have sex with each other, that doesn't personally affect me. I'd just hope they have a world that looks out for their sexual interests, rather than suppresses them.

[+ Gar1eth]

I believe you if you say so. Im in no position to probe or project. I like to give others the courtesy I hope they will in turn give me: to not read more into what someone has said, if they stand by what they've said.

 

I was just curious about the source of your discomfort around sex. Like you

, I also have no interest in children (or anyone younger than me, really), but I also don't believe sex to be disgusting or sinful, so the knowledge that people under 18 can be sexual beings doesn't disturb me. If kids want to have sex with each other, that doesn't personally affect me. I'd just hope they have a world that looks out for their sexual interests, rather than suppresses them.

 

I don't really want to continue this. So thank you for the discussion.

 

Gman

[Guest]

Well, obviously the age of the minor makes a difference. Realistically, most 16 and 17 year-old are capable of having sex of their own free will, and most of them probably do at some point. In my opinion, judges should be able to determine whether 16 or 17 year olds' sex was coerced or not, with the help of social workers' interviews (of the minor, alone, among others), and other sources of data. Of course, some situations should always lead to serious time in the state penn regardless of the minor's consent, such as when a teacher has sex with a high school student, or a step-parent with the step-child. However, even in such egregious cases, sometimes the feelings do end up being genuine. I remember reading a story in a newspaper some time back in which a teacher was imprisoned for some 6 or 7 years when she was found to have sex with one of her students. That former student married that teacher soon after she was released. And the current President of the French Republic was a student of his then-teacher when he first got physical with her--and they're now married.

[AndreFuture]

In my opinion, judges should be able to determine whether 16 or 17 year olds' sex was coerced or not, with the help of social workers' interviews (of the minor, alone, among others), and other sources of data.

 

That sounds like a horribly traumatic experience to endure just to get a nut!

 

Even though it's illegal for children to engage in their sexuality (many teens have been prosecuted for child porn because they took nude selfies ), I think the states that have age bracket exceptions (e.g., a 16 yr old is allowed to have sex with someone up to age 18) are a slightly less problematic way of allowing a few youth to explore their sexuality.

[caliguy]

I remember reading a story in a newspaper some time back in which a teacher was imprisoned for some 6 or 7 years when she was found to have sex with one of her students. That former student married that teacher soon after she was released. And the current President of the French Republic was a student of his then-teacher when he first got physical with her--and they're now married.

She actually only got probation initially. However, she kept seeing him and the judge made her serve the remainder of time in Prison.

 

It's a very sexist ruling though. Guarantee if it was a guy he'd get the maximum time. Look at Dozer. His victim was the same age (14) as Letourneau's student. It was no different as in both were mutual. Yet he got 17.5 years and she initially got nothing.

[AndreFuture]

She actually only got probation initially. However, she kept seeing him and the judge made her serve the remainder of time in Prison.

 

It's a very sexist ruling though. Guarantee if it was a guy he'd get the maximum time. Look at Dozer. His victim was the same age (14) as Letourneau's student. It was no different as in both were mutual. Yet he got 17.5 years and she initially got nothing.

That's really messed up. It reminds me of a situation I'd heard about an older woman (maybe also a teacher) having sex with an underage guy and people were congratulating the kid for "scoring". If it wasn't consensual, I can't imagine how damaging that kind of response would be for a victim.

[caliguy]

That's really messed up. It reminds me of a situation I'd heard about an older woman (maybe also a teacher) having sex with an underage guy and people were congratulating the kid for "scoring". If it wasn't consensual, I can't imagine how damaging that kind of response would be for a victim.

Same situation in Letourneau's case. Lot's of high fives. Definitely a double standard. Dozer was also guilty of being a gay man. That old pedo stereotype was front and center.

 

His boyfriend at the time was also charged but committed suicide. I think I'd choose the suicide myself.

[+ MostlyLurking]

It's worth asking if penalties for those who merely view and trade images are overly harsh by comparison to penalties for other crimes. On the other hand, there's an argument that without the market such people create, fewer children would be exploited in this fashion and that long sentences serve as a deterrent. (I'm not sure the latter is true.)

 

Sexual images of underage boys are criminal even if the image is drawn, not photographed - even if there was no model and the image was entirely derived from the artist's imagination.

[+ OliverSaks]

 

Reminds me of (the double standard stuff)

[+ José Soplanucas]

 

Reminds me of (the double standard stuff)

 

+1K

[+ quoththeraven]

That sounds like a horribly traumatic experience to endure just to get a nut!

 

Even though it's illegal for children to engage in their sexuality (many teens have been prosecuted for child porn because they took nude selfies ), I think the states that have age bracket exceptions (e.g., a 16 yr old is allowed to have sex with someone up to age 18) are a slightly less problematic way of allowing a few youth to explore their sexuality.

Those states are less the exception, more the rule. For example, New York, where the age of consent is 17, has a four-year window. And New Jersey's age of consent is 16. But as far as I know 13 is a universal limit below which it's assumed no one has the capacity to consent to sex.

 

Child porn laws should be amended to provide that exchanging photographs with someone with whom a sexual relationship would not constitute statutory rape isn't covered, but there's likely too little political upside for doing it.

[+ quoththeraven]

Sexual images of underage boys are criminal even if the image is drawn, not photographed - even if there was no model and the image was entirely derived from the artist's imagination.

This is only sort of true. The relevant law tracks the legal definition of obscenity, which is applicable irrespective of the age (or apparent age) of the character depicted.

 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A

[Guest]

Thanks for those who remembered that teacher & student's names. Here's their wedding picture.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2179745.1428676333!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/wedding-mary-kay-vili-fualaau.jpg

[Guest]

And here they are with their kids, conceived before she spent her time in the Big House, and Baba Wawa....

[Guest]

It's interesting that both the entertainment industry and teens themselves often sexualize the teens, and that seems to be OK. Dylan Sprayberry was obviously chosen for his sex appeal in the TV series Teen Wolf and often shown shirtless, before he turned 18. Similarly, Canadian singer Shawn Mendes put up a number of sensual shirtless pictures of himself before he turned 18. So did Austin Mahone, and there are many other teens who do this. It seems it's OK for teens or the media to sensualize themselves, but if anyone cops to being attracted to a teen, he's an outrageous pervert. I'm rarely attracted to teens, and I don't think I've ever hired a man under 22, but certain younger men do have a certain appeal. For the record, the youngest of my last five hires was 28....