WARNING: you may fall in love

[MikeBiDude]

Absolutely true. Greatly improved behavior today, overall, compared with back when.

 

The forums were lively then, no question, but you often needed an industrial hazmat suit to endure the vitriol.

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I still feel "Herd mentality" that likes to pile on. Not always just looks, but often when a new post pops up about asking for "411 on this escort..." the first replies are Short little "no thanks!", "red flags", "no way" which in fact are NOT 411/info. Same as when there are multiple replies to a post, one negative comment gets the pile on.

 

Just an observation. Things are pretty civil here...

[LivingnLA]

As my grandma used to say, "if you have nothing nice or helpful to say, shut up or you'll sound like a petty person."

[+ goosh69]

You're gurenteed to get nastygrams if you title the thread with some hyperbole about how great the guy is.

[BSR]

I find unsolicited comments about how unatrractive someone may be to be totally unnecessary.

I disagree. This unique forum's reason for being is to discuss the adult sex biz - escorts, erotic masseurs, strippers, porn stars. I think people should feel free to express their honest opinions. Mind you, if you had a shitty day at work, don't come hear & unload all your frustrations in the form of a nasty post that rips apart a particular sex worker. And for heaven's sake, always keep in mind that the subject of discussion might be reading your comments. Plenty of escorts are active participants in this community, and I'm guessing a few lurkers read the threads but don't post. But within the boundaries of civility, respect, and good old-fashioned common sense, sure, go ahead and say that you don't like a guy and what about him turns you off. I, for one, am here to read the honest opinions of others and to share my own, not to give away participation trophies.

[LivingnLA]

Treat others as you wish to be treated. That's how I was raised, how I try to raise my kids, and wish the world behaved this way, because the lack of civility, compassion, and empathy are part of what's wrong with America.

[pubic_assistance]

I disagree. This unique forum's reason for being is to discuss the adult sex biz - escorts, erotic masseurs, strippers, porn stars. I think people should feel free to express their honest opinions. Mind you, if you had a shitty day at work, don't come hear & unload all your frustrations in the form of a nasty post that rips apart a particular sex worker. And for heaven's sake, always keep in mind that the subject of discussion might be reading your comments. Plenty of escorts are active participants in this community, and I'm guessing a few lurkers read the threads but don't post. But within the boundaries of civility, respect, and good old-fashioned common sense, sure, go ahead and say that you don't like a guy and what about him turns you off. I, for one, am here to read the honest opinions of others and to share my own, not to give away participation trophies.

I agree....it's an opinon forum, not a tea party to sip tea and talk about the weather.

[BSR]

Treat others as you wish to be treated. That's how I was raised, how I try to raise my kids, and wish the world behaved this way, because the lack of civility, compassion, and empathy are part of what's wrong with America.

Wow, I guess this is what happens when a generation of Americans grows up getting participation trophies: an exchange of honest opinions is viewed as "lack of civility, compassion, and empathy."

 

If I were an escort who participated in this forum, or just lurked, I would rather know than not know (prospective) clients' opinions of me and other sex workers. For example, if I were on the fence about getting a tattoo, the very strong anti-tattoo opinions often expressed here might convince me not to. If my ad's pictures were a bit out of date, a snarky comment might get me off me butt to post some new ones. Or a comment about my physique might get me to buckle down and get stricter with my diet + workout sessions. Clients are going to form their opinions of escorts (or masseurs, strippers, porn stars) no matter what, whether they choose to express them here or not. Like I said previously, nobody wants to read an explosion of negativity, and nobody should be subjected to rudeness, bullying, or the like. But since clients are always going to have an opinion, I'd rather know than not know.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Wow, I guess this is what happens when a generation of Americans grows up getting participation trophies: an exchange of honest opinions is viewed as "lack of civility, compassion, and empathy."

 

If I were an escort who participated in this forum, or just lurked, I would rather know than not know (prospective) clients' opinions of me and other sex workers. For example, if I were on the fence about getting a tattoo, the very strong anti-tattoo opinions often expressed here might convince me not to. If my ad's pictures were a bit out of date, a snarky comment might get me off me butt to post some new ones. Or a comment about my physique might get me to buckle down and get stricter with my diet + workout sessions. Clients are going to form their opinions of escorts (or masseurs, strippers, porn stars) no matter what, whether they choose to express them here or not. Like I said previously, nobody wants to read an explosion of negativity, and nobody should be subjected to rudeness, bullying, or the like. But since clients are always going to have an opinion, I'd rather know than not know.

 

Perhaps, just perhaps, very strong opinions about someone's appearance tell more about the judge than about the object.

[BSR]

Perhaps, just perhaps, very strong opinions about someone's appearance tell more about the judge than about the object.

After you vowed never to respond to respond to my posts, I'm glad to see you've started acknowledging me again. Those weeks of banishment were almost more than I could bear.

[LivingnLA]

Wow, I guess this is what happens when a generation of Americans grows up getting participation trophies: an exchange of honest opinions is viewed as "lack of civility, compassion, and empathy."

 

If I were an escort who participated in this forum, or just lurked, I would rather know than not know (prospective) clients' opinions of me and other sex workers. For example, if I were on the fence about getting a tattoo, the very strong anti-tattoo opinions often expressed here might convince me not to. If my ad's pictures were a bit out of date, a snarky comment might get me off me butt to post some new ones. Or a comment about my physique might get me to buckle down and get stricter with my diet + workout sessions. Clients are going to form their opinions of escorts (or masseurs, strippers, porn stars) no matter what, whether they choose to express them here or not. Like I said previously, nobody wants to read an explosion of negativity, and nobody should be subjected to rudeness, bullying, or the like. But since clients are always going to have an opinion, I'd rather know than not know.

 

What's with the seeming obsession with participation trophies by you and others? There are valid psychological reasons for them in certain situations and with certain kids. Please research the science behind teaching and reinforcing commitment, dedication, and process in raising fully functional healthy and well-rounded adults. There are many ways to accomplish these goals and these types of markers are valid if they're handled in the right way. As with all things in life, the details matter.

 

And yes, some of the posted opinions did lack civility, compassion, and empathy. Such as the one deriding the vision of forum members who like the escort in question. Why make fun of fellow forum members in that way? It seemed only like a snide remark with no valuable contribution to the discussion. It's entirely possible to say, "I don't like tattoos" without denigrating someone with many tattoos or the people who like them. It's the use of "I statements" versus accusatory "you statements" and is basic emotional intelligence awareness.

 

Further, this thread wasn't posted by the escort asking for critical feedback. It was posted by a fan of his. Just because the thread title was probably hyperbolic for those who aren't into what this escort offers, doesn't mean we have to be rude. As you rightly point out, the escort might be lurking and reading replies. That is probably why I read the threat as hostile over all. It felt like bitchy gossiping instead of constructive criticism. It would've been entirely different if the escort had posted this asking for feedback about his look and ad.

[+ José Soplanucas]

After you vowed never to respond to respond to my posts, I'm glad to see you've started acknowledging me again. Those weeks of banishment were almost more than I could bear.

[BSR]

What's with the seeming obsession with participation trophies by you and others? There are valid psychological reasons for them in certain situations and with certain kids. Please research the science behind teaching and reinforcing commitment, dedication, and process in raising fully functional healthy and well-rounded adults. There are many ways to accomplish these goals and these types of markers are valid if they're handled in the right way. As with all things in life, the details matter.

 

And yes, some of the posted opinions did lack civility, compassion, and empathy. Such as the one deriding the vision of forum members who like the escort in question. Why make fun of fellow forum members in that way? It seemed only like a snide remark with no valuable contribution to the discussion. It's entirely possible to say, "I don't like tattoos" without denigrating someone with many tattoos or the people who like them. It's the use of "I statements" versus accusatory "you statements" and is basic emotional intelligence awareness.

 

Further, this thread wasn't posted by the escort asking for critical feedback. It was posted by a fan of his. Just because the thread title was probably hyperbolic for those who aren't into what this escort offers, doesn't mean we have to be rude. As you rightly point out, the escort might be lurking and reading replies. That is probably why I read the threat as hostile over all. It felt like bitchy gossiping instead of constructive criticism. It would've been entirely different if the escort had posted this asking for feedback about his look and ad.

I'm a big fan of honesty, and I'd rather people express an honest opinion, even if it's critical, than hear somebody say something nice and polite, even if that's not really what they're thinking.

 

What's my issue with participation trophies? Participation trophies breed snowflakes, and snowflakes hate honesty.

[LivingnLA]

I'm a big fan of honesty, and I'd rather people express an honest opinion, even if it's critical, than hear somebody say something nice and polite, even if that's not really what they're thinking.

 

What's my issue with participation trophies? Participation trophies breed snowflakes, and snowflakes hate honesty.

 

I'm a big fan of honesty too, the difference between us appears to be that I still consider a person as worthy of consideration and respect even when I'm critiquing their work. People don't have to be inconsiderate jerks to be honest. It's entirely possible to be truthful and honest without being an asshole and the bonus is that people are generally more open to listen to feedback when they're treated with respect and compassion.

[BSR]

I'm a big fan of honesty too, the difference between us appears to be that I still consider a person as worthy of consideration and respect even when I'm critiquing their work. People don't have to be inconsiderate jerks to be honest. It's entirely possible to be truthful and honest without being an asshole and the bonus is that people are generally more open to listen to feedback when they're treated with respect and compassion.

I think the difference between us is that I have a much thicker skin. Feel free to retreat to your safe space.

[YoungAD]

Don't get stuck in his looks.

 

This is a looks-based business.

 

And while I find myself usually in disagreement with BSR, this time we are in sync. Kevin's pictures are his resume, and for $250/hr, I expect more. This has nothing to do with his character but rather, his judgment and attention to detail. I would hope that Latbear or some other client would bring this thread to Kevin's attention so that he might take the time to digest such criticism and take the step to up his game.

[hornytwells]

I agree that you should be free to offer opinions, my observation is that it is not particularly useful (or interesting) to say wow I find that guy unattractive without qualifying the remark with details of what it is that you prefer or what turns you on or off in a guy/type. How does that help anyone?

[LivingnLA]

I think the difference between us is that I have a much thicker skin. Feel free to retreat to your safe space.

 

Why attempt little verbal digs? Are they supposed to be funny? The need to belittle others is characteristic of underdeveloped communication skills or psychological issues around adequacy. If the goal is to get a rise out of me, I apologize in advance for not complying. I have not hidden from rude people who pretend rudeness is "honesty" so far in life and I won't be starting today.

[BSR]

Why attempt little verbal digs? Are they supposed to be funny? The need to belittle others is characteristic of underdeveloped communication skills or psychological issues around adequacy. If the goal is to get a rise out of me, I apologize in advance for not complying. I have not hidden from rude people who pretend rudeness is "honesty" so far in life and I won't be starting today.

Snowflakes have no sense of humor.

[Moondance]

latbear4blk, seems to me I remember you recently mentioning a wish to find some new talent, so I was glad hear that's happened, and that you found a fellow who is not only ....

...freaking hot, but what makes him exceptional is his vibe and his personality. This guy is really special, and I am comparing him against a huge pool.

As to all the commentary on looks, well, to each his own, but I doubt if everyone's best encounters have been with guys who are precisely their type, or ideally conform to some laundry list of criteria.

 

More than once, I have ended up damn happy to have gotten beyond an underwhelming first impression to discover a great guy whose sexy vibe and intelligence and sense of fun make him so much hotter than the dull guy with the handsome mug who might more immediately catch my eye.

[MikeBiDude]

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latbear4blk, seems to me I remember you recently mentioning a wish to find some new talent, so I was glad hear that's happened, and that you found a fellow who is not only ....

 

As to all the commentary on looks, well, to each his own, but I doubt if everyone's best encounters have been with guys who are precisely their type, or ideally conform to some laundry list of criteria.

 

More than once, I have ended up damn happy to have gotten beyond an underwhelming first impression to discover a great guy whose sexy vibe and intelligence and sense of fun make him so much hotter than the dull guy with the handsome mug who might more immediately catch my eye.

One thing I learned far too late in my life, was that visiting with young men who were off/not "my type" was extremely rewarding. My eyes still pop out when "my type" goes by on the street or computer display, but I've also opened myself up to those outside my limited type and had LOTS of fun...

[actor61]

The race is unimportant to me - the excess of ink is -- To much ink is a huge turnoff for me!

Me too. People think it enhances physical beauty but I find it negates it. Personal taste, of course.

[LivingnLA]

Snowflakes have no sense of humor.

 

Too true! Snowflakes are one or more frozen water crystals that form around a dust particle, so they are--as far as we know--incapable of sense or humor.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowflake

[LivingnLA]

Me too. People think it enhances physical beauty but I find it negates it. Personal taste, of course.

 

It is always interesting how polarizing things like tattoos can be for some people. For my personal tastes, I find ink on men and women to be appealing unless it's terribly done or poorly placed.

[Rudynate]

It is always interesting how polarizing things like tattoos can be for some people. For my personal tastes, I find ink on men and women to be appealing unless it's terribly done or poorly placed.

 

 

I must like ink on men - I have my fair share of it.

[tanman4u]

I'll come down in favor of tatts in general and of this guy in particular. He sounds and looks pretty damned hot to me. He even says he's looking for legit photgraphers and lord knows there's a tremendous need for better photographers in the escort world.