PRICE POINT and ALTERNATIVE ADVETISING / lowering rates

[Michael Wayne]

Thanks for the 5 or 6 constructive replies!!!! To all the rest: It is great to see that all yall "MIKEY HATERS" are still out there. As they say , "All publicity is good publicity," so thanks for the buzz and the pub guys. I wish more than 5 guys would have actually addressed the basic premise of what my thread proposed. What is going on is this: We have a group of escorts who have ridiculously high rates (300 plus) who are creating a false sense of busyness and projecting that they are somehow better or in higher demand. This is absolutely NOT TRUE because I talk to these guys all the time when they are sitting home alone dateless on a Saturday night. The reason: yall may be in denial.....but.... it is the apps and the other sites. While there is no formal "Collusion" in person there is a general attempt to drive prices down and the guys who are really busy are the guys willing to come down to market price and compete. For all of you who criticize my writing style I don't care about you. GET LOST! For those five or six of you who are intelligent and are trying to understand the current state of the biz let me continue: I am NOT in denial at all! I know my age and am damn proud of it and of my 23 years experience at the top of this biz. Daddys are IN right now and the clients I ACTUALLY SEE love me and come back. The issue these days is marketing and advertising. That is what my thread was about but instead of actually dealing with the issue some of these jealous petty queens on here just take any opportunity to take a shot at me because they don't like me. They wish they had what I have between their legs and many of them who used to have money to hire but no longer do are jealous of what I have in my bank account!!!!! Lastly, I am semi retired these days and I only escort part time because I am LOADED and give lots of money to my broke family. Thus my threads are not really about me but about those 20 something boys who are gorgeous but are having to take other jobs right now cause so many guys have quit hiring or only hire at a low rate. My threads represent the REAL WORLD not fantasyland....... So this isn't about ME. Escorting is my hobby these days and it is fun to me. It makes me feel young and it keeps me in the gym. It allows me to make real good friends and to meet fascinating people. I escort from a position of POWER meaning I don't need or have to have the clients' money. I am very picky and choosy about who I see. There have been profound changes in this business lately. I am trying to write about these things and I also wanted to point out that the attack on Rentboy did not come from CONSERVATIVES but from the LIBERAL Obama administration so all this talk about being scared of the conservatives is a bit premature. Don't you think???? @ www.rentmen.com/magicmikeydc

[Michael Wayne]

AND NOW YALL KNOW HOW I REALLY FEEL!!!!! Happy New Year from warm, sunny Ft Lauderdale. I've decided I no longer want to be COLD! Paradise............

[AquaNYC]

From this client's POV, I will never try to negotiate a price with my escorts, anymore than I would bargain in a fine restaurant. That is good news and bad news. Good, because I hope it shows respect and appreciation for the tremendous pleasure and care I've received from every escort I've hired. Bad, because I can't and won't go beyond a certain price point in hiring. Beyond $250/ hour generally means keep looking. 2016 was my coming out year and I hired often. I had a fantastic year, but as I review my spending, I realize I can't continue to hire so freely in 2017. I must hire for less, or hire less often. I don't mean to suggest that escorts should lower their rates. When I consider the overhead it takes to provide their services, most escorts rates seem reasonable to me. I simply cannot afford them.

 

I think my solution must be to cut back to one hour sessions, although the luxury of a second hour with him is wonderful. To maximize my potential patronage, I would love to see a really substantial rate break on the second hour and/or for return clients. And, please. I know my budgetary problems are not my escort's concern. I'm just trying to answer @Michael Wayne 's inquiry honestly.

Good point. I appreciate when an escort offers multiple hour pricing or initial hour rate and then slightly lower rates on subsequent hours. I am more prone to schedule multiple hours (more time to enjoy the the post coital cuddling...)

[+ MostlyLurking]

I think my solution must be to cut back to one hour sessions, although the luxury of a second hour with him is wonderful. To maximize my potential patronage, I would love to see a really substantial rate break on the second hour and/or for return clients.

 

I don't understand why it isn't standard practice to offer a big price break on the second hour. A two-hour call is much less demanding for the escort than two one-hour calls, isn't it? If it's an out call, you don't waste more travel time; if it's an in call, you don't have to clean the room an extra time. And it's the second hour when sex may be less urgent and the personal contact can come to the foreground.

[+ MostlyLurking]

Hi Oliver Sax. When a guy is only in town for two days, he's gotta see lots of clients to make the trip worthwhile. Lots of clients in a short time is not a recipe for a wonderful meeting.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I don't understand why it isn't standard practice to offer a big price break on the second hour. A two-hour call is much less demanding for the escort than two one-hour calls, isn't it? If it's an out call, you don't waste more travel time; if it's an in call, you don't have to clean the room an extra time. And it's the second hour when sex may be less urgent and the personal contact can come to the foreground.

 

There are not standard practices in this industry.

[+ MostlyLurking]

Thanks for the 5 or 6 constructive replies!!!! To all the rest: It is great to see that all yall "MIKEY HATERS" are still out there.

 

Fellow clients, take note. I didn't see much in the way of Mikey-hating; I just saw some good-natured kidding. But Mikey saw Mikey-hating. We need to mind our manners carefully if we don't want to drive away escorts.

[bostonman]

When a guy is only in town for two days, he's gotta see lots of clients to make the trip worthwhile. Lots of clients in a short time is not a recipe for a wonderful meeting.

 

Which is why I generally don't even consider guys that are only in my area for a few days. I'd rather meet someone who's more likely to have a more relaxed schedule because they don't have to (pardon the unintentional pun) cram everyone in.

[JTtorretto]

I prefer hiring in the 200-250 range and have had no problem finding hot guys - in NYC. At that price, if the service is good, I will tip really well.

 

What I absolutely won't do is 300, no incall available. Really, if somebody thinks his dick or his boy pussy is worth 300 or more, then at least be able to host in a clean place that is easily accessible. That's part of the service!

 

I would rather have a hot erotic massage for 180-200 than a mediocre escort experience at 300.

 

Somebody mentioned it before, I think it was BVB, but escorts should be more creative with their pricing. Like offering a discount for off-peak time appointments. Or offer a good discount on the 2nd hour. Or discounts to returning customers that you are comfortable with and like to keep as regulars. Somehow, that very rarely happens.

 

On Rentboy I posted a rate of $250 1hr & $400 for 2 hours and had moslty 2hr appts if not longer.

 

Unfortunately, when I've attempted to post my rate in a similar manner on Rentmen, the web interface doesn't seem to support this type of price verbiage.

[+ azdr0710]

On Rentboy I posted a rate of $250 1hr & $400 for 2 hours and had moslty 2hr appts if not longer.

 

Unfortunately, when I've attempted to post my rate in a similar manner on Rentmen, the web interface doesn't seem to support this type of price verbiage.

 

know what you mean.....it's good to know quickly that you have multi-hour rates and you can mention it in the text of your ad in an effort to catch clients before they move on

[Mydavid]

On Rentboy I posted a rate of $250 1hr & $400 for 2 hours and had moslty 2hr appts if not longer.

 

Unfortunately, when I've attempted to post my rate in a similar manner on Rentmen, the web interface doesn't seem to support this type of price verbiage.

You can always write this on your profile. I like escorts with discount for multi hours.

[+ MostlyLurking]

On Rentboy I posted a rate of $250 1hr & $400 for 2 hours and had moslty 2hr appts if not longer.

 

Unfortunately, when I've attempted to post my rate in a similar manner on Rentmen, the web interface doesn't seem to support this type of price verbiage.

There's probably some way to do it. Maybe the administrators would help. (You're paying them enough! You should get good customer service.) In the meantime you can put it in your text. And - as has been mentioned before - you could also put a link to your site, in your signature on this forum.

[gallahadesquire]

We meet at the Outback at 7:30 PM the 2nd Wednesday of each month to discuss ways of minimizing escort fees.

Not any more ... our local OUTBACK has closed for good. Does anyone know if Outback is downsizing?

[+ azdr0710]

[JoshATX]

I like to offer discounts on multiple hour sessions

(1 hour ) $250

(2 hours) $300

(4hours) $500

[+ MasssageGuy]

A reality check is in order on pricing...

 

Canadian Retail Prices Drop As Online Shopping Soars 46.9% In A Year

 

Granted you can't get personal services in a "box" yet, but seriously folks, the big squeeze is on for those of us in the 99%...

 

http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/crop/7360x4912+0+0/resize/524x350!/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/2791c6af6683c0523d2cf065faab3742/205501313/abandoned-shopping-cart-picture-id618640238

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/07/21/canadian-retail-prices-drop-as-online-shopping-soars-46-9-in-a_a_23041416/?utm_hp_ref=ca-homepage

[+ MasssageGuy]

Show me an article concerning service providers, not big box retailers selling toilet paper.

You miss the point... How's your business? What impact do prices have on your volume? Do you only cater to the 1%? 50% of folks in the US live pay check to pay check.

[Rudynate]

You miss the point... How's your business? What impact do prices have on your volume? Do you only cater to the 1%? 50% of folks in the US live pay check to pay check.

 

I doubt whether you can extrapolate the spending habits of men who hire escorts from the spending habits of the 99%. While most may not be in the 1%, they probably have more disposable income than many in the 99%.

[+ MasssageGuy]

I see you don't even bother to donate to this site... Interesting, child....

[LookingAround]

I see you don't even bother to donate to this site... Interesting, child....

Neither do I. So?

[+ Keith30309]

I suspect that the services we are talking about are highly inelastic (that is, the demand for a service is relatively unaffected by its price, compared with some other services). The determinants of price elasticity include ease of substitution (I’ll leave it to your imagination) and proportion of income spent, among other factors that vary widely among individuals on both sides of the equation.

I go see my dentist, even though he charges a premium, because he is very good and makes me feel comfortable. It would take a fairly sizeable increase in his fee for me to not go see him or find another professional. (I think it’s pretty widely recognized that the economics of professional services can’t be directly compared to goods, particularly those that have commodity-like qualities.) This elasticity is different for every individual on both sides of the equation.

 

 

I’ve periodically run numbers for the Atlanta RM profiles (including some Slater-worthy charts and graphs) and the average is about $240/hr. If I want to see Kevin then I REALLY WANT to see Kevin and if he is 20% over or under that number then it’s unlikely to make a difference because I perceive it to be worth it to me (not necessarily anyone else… just to me). If someone new catches my eye then I weigh the cost (particularly if it differs significantly from the average) against the benefit (a largely emotional and unquantifiable element for new-hires) and make a decision.

 

I think repeat visits are a little more easily understood because the unknowns on the benefit side are better defined.

 

 

The bottom line, I think, is if you’ve got what people want and there isn’t a negative emotional reaction to the price (as expressed in so many threads about someone’s shocking, outrageous, insane, ridiculous, cataclysmic rate) then the supply curve will rub up and down against the demand curve and explode in sticky economic happiness.

[mike carey]

We all benefit from the contributions of many members to the discussion here. Some people help Daddy by donating money. Others help all of us immeasurably by their knowledge, be that of escorting, health issues, business procedures, computing or whatever. Personally, I value forum members for all of these things but whether they have contributed financially is not at the top of my list. It's not my place to judge people for the manner in which they contribute to this community.

[MikeyGMin]

I see you don't even bother to donate to this site... Interesting, child....

I have and do make ad hoc donations to the site, but that's between Daddy and me. ( Obviously not now that I'm bringing it up ) One really shouldn't make assumptions based on the medallions.

[Rudynate]

A lot of people here seem to define pro as someone who has the money to place a rentmen ad.

 

 

It's a good start.

[LookingAround]

It's a good start.

You don't know how to have sex or interact with others otherwise?