Apple iOS 10... Should one upgrade now?

[whipped guy]

Has anyone upgraded their iPhone or iPad to iOS 10? I learned my lesson when I upgraded to iOS 8 and ran into all sorts of issues. Apple told me that there was a problem with my iPad and that I needed to do a hard reset to wipe the device totally clean . I refused to follow through with their recommendation. I subsequently went to the Apple Store and noticed that all the iPads on display had the same "defect" and the reason was due to a problem with iOS 8. So much for AppleCare! The "genius" employees in the store even had no clue!

 

In any event, a favorite escort did the iOS 10 upgrade and he says that he hates it. Of course anytime there's a change to the way that something looks or functions it takes a while to get used to it, but if it's an overall change for the better then that makes the transition a bit easier.

 

I am using an iPad mini that is 2-3 years old and an iPhone 5s. Any input or suggestions would be appreciated. I'm all for progress, but I don't want to complicate my life.

[+ Truereview]

I too have a mini and an iPhone. I wait for my mini or iPhone to flag me for the update. My iPhone flagged me about a month ago to upgrade to 10.0.2. I had to get used to the new texting format and the way photos are organized but it was just fine after practicing a bit. I have not updated my mini. I just did a search to see if my mini need tO upgrade and it said it has the latest with some 9.0 something version. I've never experienced an issue with upgrades, but I've noticed that my friends with lots of pics and apps on the apple devices always do. Just a hypothesis but wonder if that is the culprit. I keep mine pretty streamlined and works like a charm. Watch it, I probably just jinxed myself!

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i was forced to by my Iphone to update and I like some of the features but there are a couple things that apple did that I absolutely hate like the slide to unlock is now gone. They appear to have fixed the bugs they were having.

[MikeBiDude]

I've had issues upgrading before....but this time to iOS 10.x.x My iPad(s) and my IPhone 6+ upgraded smoothly.

 

I had to get used to the new texting format and the way photos are organized

 

Yes!

 

I absolutely hate like the slide to unlock is now gone.

 

And, yes!!

[+ Truereview]

...I absolutely hate like the slide to unlock is now gone.

Omg! I've gotten so used to the fingerprint unlock that I didn't even notice the slide-to-unlock went away!

Wow...I'm a creature of habit!

[MikeBiDude]

Omg! I've gotten so used to the fingerprint unlock that I didn't even notice the slide-to-unlock went away!

Wow...I'm a creature of habit!

Fingerprint unlock working smoother for me on new iPad Pro, as well it seems better on upgraded iPhone 6+

[+ ArVaGuy]

Here's a few tips I found helpful after the upgrade. I'm still getting used to some of the changes but overall it's been a positive experience.

 

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-ios-10-settings-change/

[AdamSmith]

As (by profession) a tech industry analyst, I have what is likely the largest remaining pathology in my personal psychology: a wildly unrealistically morbid dread of upgrades.

 

Not whole new product launches, where large glitches frequently and expectedly come with the territory. Rather, incremental upgrades that bring the small but real risk of bricking the devices on which our professional and personal lives have come to depend.

 

I never upgrade my iPhone iOS unless it's necessary to download some app I absolutely can't live without. And those come along about as often as Cretaceous/Tertiary Boundary extinction events.

 

(That the advent of the Anthropocene is bringing about just such an event right now we will let pass without comment.)

[LADoug1]

I upgraded without a problem.

[+ Keith30309]

As (by profession) a tech industry analyst, I have what is likely the largest remaining pathology in my personal psychology: a wildly unrealistically morbid dread of upgrades.

 

Not whole new product launches, where large glitches frequently and expectedly come with the territory. Rather, incremental upgrades that bring the small but real risk of bricking the devices on which our professional and personal lives have come to depend.

 

I never upgrade my iPhone iOS unless it's necessary to download some app I absolutely can't live without. And those come along about as often as Cretaceous/Tertiary Boundary extinction events.

 

I feel the same sense of dread (much less so with Apple than Microsoft) though I can be lured by an enticing feature. It's sort of like that Backpage twink you know that you shouldn't go anywhere near but can't help taking a peek.

 

I had no problems with 10, though it's noteworthy it was quickly followed by 10.0.1 and now 10.0.2.

[+ Truereview]

...Not whole new product launches, where large glitches frequently and expectedly come with the territory. Rather, incremental upgrades that bring the small but real risk of bricking the devices on which our professional and personal lives have come to depend.

Could you elaborate on the risk of bricking devices thru upgrades? I think I understand & agree, but I would benefit from some examples to better understand the risk. Thanks!

[AdamSmith]

Could you elaborate on the risk of bricking devices thru upgrades? I think I understand & agree, but I would benefit from some examples to better understand the risk. Thanks!

Just one example: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/09/13/ios-10-launch-live-how-to-upgrade-to-apples-new-software-and-wha/

 

Googling the topic will turn up many many more.

 

Similarly the loud warnings from Microsoft to BACK UP YOUR DATA before upgrading to Windows 10.

 

Similarly, on my business web site, WordPress is the CMS that I use (that is, installed on my site, not running on their site). From time to time they issue updates to the "theme" that I use (WordPress twenty-fourteen). But each time you install that update, there is a possibility it will wipe out some or all of your posted content. So you are advised to back up your site beforehand. And if the wipe-out occurs, you have to repopulate all the content manually.

 

Most (not all) of these kinds of bricking occurrences can be remedied by restoring the backed-up content. But I don't want to expend the time, energy and patience it takes to do it. I don't have those resources to spare.

 

Despite fiddling around on here all day.

[bostonman]

I upgraded without any problems.

 

But - a few weeks since I did so, and I'm still not at all used to NOT swiping the screen to get to the home screen. It's weird. Shows you how the body really does get conditioned to habitual actions. Otherwise, I can't say I have any complaints.

[+ nycman]

I upgraded. No problems.

 

Minor differences really IMHO....but my phone does seem a little slower.

[AdamSmith]

Minor differences really IMHO....but my phone does seem a little slower.

That's the other problem. The software upgrade is usually heavier than what it replaced, so the device slows down. Eventually that vicious cycle drives you to buy new hardware. Windows updates are probably the worst in that respect.

[MikeBiDude]

Could you elaborate on the risk of bricking devices thru upgrades? I think I understand & agree, but I would benefit from some examples to better understand the risk. Thanks!

An older upgrade a few months ago to iOS 9.x "Bricked" my iPad, but not my iPhone.

 

I recommend hooking/linking the mobile device up to your computer "old style", and backup everything before upgrades. Even perform the upgrade linked up. iCloud is great, and if setup correctly will manage to take care of contacts/calendar etc., but a full backup to your PC/Mac (yes windows users you too can sync and backup) will ultimately restore your device if you brick it.

 

Also, a full back is a clean way to migrate/upgrade when you buy a newer physical device. I recently went from older iPad to iPad 9.7" Pro, and every screen, 99% of settings, network info, etc all migrated my new iPad "looked" just like the old.

[+ Truereview]

An older upgrade a few months ago to iOS 9.x "Bricked" my iPad, but not my iPhone.

 

I recommend hooking/linking the mobile device up to your computer "old style", and backup everything before upgrades. Even perform the upgrade linked up. iCloud is great, and if setup correctly will manage to take care of contacts/calendar etc., but a full backup to your PC/Mac (yes windows users you too can sync and backup) will ultimately restore your device if you brick it.

 

Also, a full back is a clean way to migrate/upgrade when you buy a newer physical device. I recently went from older iPad to iPad 9.7" Pro, and every screen, 99% of setting, network in for, etc all migrated my new iPad "looked" just like the old.

Very informative, thank you! I do a lot of what you mentioned, and I also inventory what I have on my devices and keep a hard copy of info/electronic memories I couldnt live without in my safety deposit box. Yes, I'm old fashioned that way.

Whether it is fortunate or not, there are not that many things I can't live without, but it is comforting to know there is a physical place where priceless info/memories are stored safely - whatever "safe" means these days.

[whipped guy]

An older upgrade a few months ago to iOS 9.x "Bricked" my iPad, but not my iPhone.

 

I recommend hooking/linking the mobile device up to your computer "old style", and backup everything before upgrades. Even perform the upgrade linked up. iCloud is great, and if setup correctly will manage to take care of contacts/calendar etc., but a full backup to your PC/Mac (yes windows users you too can sync and backup) will ultimately restore your device if you brick it.

 

Also, a full back is a clean way to migrate/upgrade when you buy a newer physical device. I recently went from older iPad to iPad 9.7" Pro, and every screen, 99% of settings, network info, etc all migrated my new iPad "looked" just like the old.

Yes! Plus the upgrade when it's installed supposedly takes less space on your device. A couple of years ago a favorite escort attempted to instal an iOS update on his phone the night before we were to meet and did so via wifi. Something went wrong in the process and he lost all of his data and contacts, etc. When he didn't show up on time I called him and he was at the Apple Store trying to get things restored. I guess things were in the cloud or what ever, but if I had not called him he would not have had any way to contact me or get to my place as that info was lost as well. At that point I was his only client of record. All the others were lost. He was mad as hell, but it all worked out perfectly considering the type of session that we would be doing!

[LookingAround]

I upgraded with no problems.

[+ Truereview]

He was mad as hell, but it all worked out perfectly considering the type of session that we would be doing!

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[+ Gar1eth]

My iPhone was stolen last April. I had to get a new one. I lost a bit of data because I wasn't able to back up to iCloud for three weeks before that due to not being near a fast enough wifi, and I didn't have my computer handy. What I found out when I tried to restore my iphone was that I had such a large back up in the cloud, the restore kept getting hung up and wouldn't complete. This occurred using the fastest wifi I could find either the wifi at my local Apple Store (which actually turned out not to be that fast ) or the wifi at a Starbucks. I had to start the process over multiple times. And each time it would fail to complete. My phone would tell me it was still in restore mode. Finally after about a week of trying, the Apple Genius Bar said I should try connecting the phone up to iTunes on my computer. Well at first that didn't work either. The restore on my phone was so screwed up, it made iTunes freeze. Finally through some miracle, I was able to force the phone out of the restore mode using iTunes and was able to restore the majority of my data. But it was close. If that hadn't worked, Apple's only suggestion was to lose all my data and set the phone up as new.

 

Gman

[whipped guy]

My iPhone was stolen last April. I had to get a new one. I lost a bit of data because I wasn't able to back up to iCloud for three weeks before that due to not being near a fast enough wifi, and I didn't have my computer handy. What I found out when I tried to restore my iphone was that I had such a large back up in the cloud, the restore kept getting hung up and wouldn't complete. This occurred using the fastest wifi I could find either the wifi at my local Apple Store (which actually turned out not to be that fast ) or the wifi at a Starbucks. I had to start the process over multiple times. And each time it would fail to complete. My phone would tell me it was still in restore mode. Finally after about a week of trying, the Apple Genius Bar said I should try connecting the phone up to iTunes on my computer. Well at first that didn't work either. The restore on my phone was so screwed up, it made iTunes freeze. Finally through some miracle, I was able to force the phone out of the restore mode using iTunes and was able to restore the majority of my data. But it was close. If that hadn't worked, Apple's only suggestion was to lose all my data and set the phone up as new.

 

Gman

Also, it always helps if you have the most recent version of iTunes...and it seems that there is a new version almost every week. I usually ignore such updates until I am going to do a device update or important backup.

 

Also, regarding the so-called cloud I can only imagine what's up there about me! It boggles the mind!!!!

 

PS: Gman... Happy that you resisted doing the total wipe clean that Apple often recommends as the best fix!

[+ Charlie]

My iPhone was stolen last April. I had to get a new one. I lost a bit of data because I wasn't able to back up to iCloud for three weeks before that due to not being near a fast enough wifi, and I didn't have my computer handy. What I found out when I tried to restore my iphone was that I had such a large back up in the cloud, the restore kept getting hung up and wouldn't complete. This occurred using the fastest wifi I could find either the wifi at my local Apple Store (which actually turned out not to be that fast ) or the wifi at a Starbucks. I had to start the process over multiple times. And each time it would fail to complete. My phone would tell me it was still in restore mode. Finally after about a week of trying, the Apple Genius Bar said I should try connecting the phone up to iTunes on my computer. Well at first that didn't work either. The restore on my phone was so screwed up, it made iTunes freeze. Finally through some miracle, I was able to force the phone out of the restore mode using iTunes and was able to restore the majority of my data. But it was close. If that hadn't worked, Apple's only suggestion was to lose all my data and set the phone up as new.

 

Gman

My philosophy has always been, never store anything you are afraid to lose on any electronic device.

[+ deej]

My philosophy has always been, never store anything you are afraid to lose on any electronic device.

 

There is wisdom in this but I would edit it.

 

My philosophy has always been, never store anything you are afraid to lose only on an electronic device.

 

You can put it on there, but have a more permanent storage method.

[whipped guy]

Thanks! I appreciate all your responses and input. Even though I am getting a prompt every few hours to install iOS 10 I have decided to wait. I will be traveling in a couple of weeks send I can't take the chance that I will not be comfortable with my phone and iPad. Furthermore I got a text last night from the person who I mentioned in my initial post in this thread and after living with iOS 10 for a couple of weeks he said that he still hates it. He mentions that pictures are especially confusing. I will wait until there is more stability in my life and then will decide what course of action to take.

 

Still any other insights or comments would be appreciated as I'm sure Apple will be tweaking things in the near future.

 

Again thanks to all!