Some frustrating things about this pastime

[Man Crush Morris]

I've got the ich lately, and I'm going through my typical ritual.

 

I'm in nyc, and it seems to me that of all places, this should be one of the easiest to find a guy suited to my tastes for a quick no hassles romp. Ideally, check a website catalog, go through numerous guys my taste, pick one, make a call, and be running in an hour or so.

 

Turns out, it's not. Admittedly, I have a particular taste but it's nothing outrageous or impossible. In fact it's very conventional. The fact is, if I were searching for a female escort to my taste, I'd find dozens quickly and be good to go in an hour.

 

But a hot guy? Lots of dead ends. Lots of fakes. I go through a couple of hundred ads, maybe four or five appeal to me, and either they look obviously suspect or a little research reveals that they're a dead end.

 

I'd think it would be so much easier, even given the illegal nature of things (as that doesn't slow down female escorts).

 

Sucks.

[+ BigRic]

Can you can elaborate on what you mean by "dead end" please? After you've found your "four or five [who] appeal to [you]," what are the most common issues that lead to no booking?

[Mocha]

I'm in nyc, and it seems to me that of all places, this should be one of the easiest to find a guy suited to my tastes for a quick no hassles romp.

 

But a hot guy? Lots of dead ends. Lots of fakes. I'd think it would be so much easier, even given the illegal nature of things (as that doesn't slow down female escorts).

 

Sucks.

 

It may be similar to what some may think of escort's luck. That a mega-market should be easy. Being quasi-legal is what facilitates some of the dead ends and fakes. Not everybody is going to be non-shady in a still black market kinda biz. It's like trying to buy marijuana in Georgia versus buying in Colorado. One is legal and safe, the other would likely be illegal and sketchy. It's sketchy because it's illegal. Quality, not quantity.

 

But like sexy bigRic asked, I too am curious about some of the specific frustrations occurring. I'm sure I could certainly answer those as I deal with them all the time.

[BaronArtz]

The fact is, if I were searching for a female escort to my taste, I'd find dozens quickly and be good to go in an hour.

 

 

I hear from somebody's opinion I totally trust that there are countless fakes, psychos, no-shows, druggies and assorted other problematic FEMALE escorts in New York City. If indeed you were searching for a female escort, you would have exactly the same problems as you seem to have locating a male escort of your liking.

[Man Crush Morris]

Can you can elaborate on what you mean by "dead end" please? After you've found your "four or five [who] appeal to [you]," what are the most common issues that lead to no booking?

 

Sure. Despite being attracted to the pics in the ads, a little research reveals that the pics are not of the provider or inaccurate. Or the posted feedback is lukewarm or negative. Or there's no feedback, which isn't worth taking a chance for me.

[Man Crush Morris]

I hear from somebody's opinion I totally trust that there are countless fakes, psychos, no-shows, druggies and assorted other problematic FEMALE escorts in New York City. If indeed you were searching for a female escort, you would have exactly the same problems as you seem to have locating a male escort of your liking.

Actually, over the years I've hired both females and males. That's not my experience at all.

 

Narrowing down candidates and researching usually leads to good experiences. The issue with the women isn't dead ends do much as price.

 

There's many more female escorts than men in nyc that I find attractive and have delivered. Some of it is just personal taste physically, I understand that. But I can find a skilled, attractive female to my taste much easier. That's my experience.

[marylander1940]

I've got the ich lately, and I'm going through my typical ritual.

 

I'm in nyc, and it seems to me that of all places, this should be one of the easiest to find a guy suited to my tastes for a quick no hassles romp. Ideally, check a website catalog, go through numerous guys my taste, pick one, make a call, and be running in an hour or so.

 

Turns out, it's not. Admittedly, I have a particular taste but it's nothing outrageous or impossible. In fact it's very conventional. The fact is, if I were searching for a female escort to my taste, I'd find dozens quickly and be good to go in an hour.

 

But a hot guy? Lots of dead ends. Lots of fakes. I go through a couple of hundred ads, maybe four or five appeal to me, and either they look obviously suspect or a little research reveals that they're a dead end.

 

I'd think it would be so much easier, even given the illegal nature of things (as that doesn't slow down female escorts).

 

Sucks.

https://rentmen.com/gay-escorts/newyork/

 

582 guys!

[marylander1940]

I hear from somebody's opinion I totally trust that there are countless fakes, psychos, no-shows, druggies and assorted other problematic FEMALE escorts in New York City. If indeed you were searching for a female escort, you would have exactly the same problems as you seem to have locating a male escort of your liking.

 

Exactly!

 

Besides modeling, prostitution and porno are the only professions where women make more money.

 

C'mon you @Man Crush Morris should be able to find what you want in NYC of all possible places...

[coriolis888]

I hear from somebody's opinion I totally trust that there are countless fakes, psychos, no-shows, druggies and assorted other problematic FEMALE escorts in New York City. If indeed you were searching for a female escort, you would have exactly the same problems as you seem to have locating a male escort of your liking.

 

 

There is no question that this is correct.

 

Not only would you encounter similar problems that you have when searching for a male escort, you have to add in the potential of the female escort having a manager (pimp) of sorts.

[+ quoththeraven]

It is amazing to me how hardly anybody seems willing to take OP at his word.

[Juan Vancouver]

It is amazing to me how hardly anybody seems willing to take OP at his word.

 

I totally hear you and yet re-reading the original post it does sound as if the scenario he paints is kind of unlikely.

 

I would be very curious what are the specs of the escorts for which he looks.

[TruthBTold]

In general, are there more (reputable) female escort agencies than male escort agencies? Just asking.

[Man Crush Morris]

In general, are there more (reputable) female escort agencies than male escort agencies? Just asking.

Yes, I'd say so.

[Man Crush Morris]

I totally hear you and yet re-reading the original post it does sound as if the scenario he paints is kind of unlikely.

 

I would be very curious what are the specs of the escorts for which he looks.

The type of man I find sexy isn't particularly unconventional. I like younger guys, early thirties and younger. Dark hair, olive skin. Fitness model build around the 200lbs mark. Masculine. Top. Turn offs include numerous tattoos, or a non clean cut demeanor. They have to be handsome to me, and admittedly that's a but harder to articulate. My actual tastes as to activities are pretty vanilla, nothing controversial there. They need to host incall.

 

Of 550+men on RM in nyc, I can often narrow it down to a small handful, but then a little research reveals that most are fakes or not particularly reliable.

 

Hiring a woman to my tastes is much easier.

 

I don't think a guy that fits my tastes is asking for too much in a city like NYC. Maybe my taste in men is just too narrow.

[Rudynate]

It is amazing to me how hardly anybody seems willing to take OP at his word.

Only a couple have responded.

[Rudynate]

I don't think the OP's predicament is unique to this business. Try to find a contractor, for example, for a smallish job, when the economy is flush and there's lots of work. Everybody you call is busy, or they give you an absurdly high bid, or they don't show up when they say they will, or they're unlicensed, or they're flakes. It's a question of supply and demand.

 

If I were looking for a female escort, it would surprise me if I didn't encounter exactly the frustrations that I encounter when looking for a male escort.

[+ Truereview]

@Man Crush Morris , I think the key word in your post is the word pastime. I call it hobby.

 

I had a conversation with a fellow client a few years back that helped me with my frustration. When I escorted, I took myself as a professional and acted as such. My clients really appreciated my punctuality, my truth in advertising, my ability to deliver, yadda, yadda. Years later as a client, I became frustrated bc the "pros" I met were not delivering as to what I expected out of the profession. So I was bemoaning this with my bud. He asked me 3 questions: is the act legal? Is the industry regulated? Is it decriminalized? Of course, bc I live in the US, all my answers were "no." He then said, stop treating this as a profession and begin treating it more like a hobby. You are no longer an escort, you are a client. You see, in a pastime or hobby, it is not the collectible/prey/tools of the hobby that's important. In a hobby, what matters is the pursuit, which includes the successes, failures, lessons learned, and yes, the frustrations. That reframing did not completely do away with my occasional frustration, but it did help me view this pastime of ours in a brand new, more fun light. May the hobby keep bringing you joy! -TR

[+ Eric Hassan]

The type of man I find sexy isn't particularly unconventional. I like younger guys, early thirties and younger. Dark hair, olive skin. Fitness model build around the 200lbs mark. Masculine. Top. Turn offs include numerous tattoos, or a non clean cut demeanor. They have to be handsome to me, and admittedly that's a but harder to articulate. My actual tastes as to activities are pretty vanilla, nothing controversial there. They need to host incall.

 

Of 550+men on RM in nyc, I can often narrow it down to a small handful, but then a little research reveals that most are fakes or not particularly reliable.

 

Hiring a woman to my tastes is much easier.

 

I don't think a guy that fits my tastes is asking for too much in a city like NYC. Maybe my taste in men is just too narrow.

 

I don't think the OP's predicament is unique to this business. Try to find a contractor, for example, for a smallish job, when the economy is flush and there's lots of work. Everybody you call is busy, or they give you an absurdly high bid, or they don't show up when they say they will, or they're unlicensed, or they're flakes. It's a question of supply and demand.

 

If I were looking for a female escort, it would surprise me if I didn't encounter exactly the frustrations that I encounter when looking for a male escort.

 

Out of curiosity, I took the details you listed and did a search on RM. I looked for escorts between 20yo and 34yo, who weigh between 190-225, are white/Latin/Arab/Mediterranean, whose "style" is muscle man, jock, or guy next door, and are listed as tops. This narrowed the 585 escorts in the NYC area to 21. A cursory glance of those 21 - ruling out guys with lots of tattoos - and it's about 10. That's a relatively small sample given the number of listed escorts and that's before you do some research to see if you find them attractive and they have a demeanor/personality that you find attractive.

 

I did the same search in SF and found the field of 286 escorts narrowed to 8. Chicago - 140 escorts down to 5. I did not rule out guys with tattoos so this number may be lower in these cities.

 

I would not think that finding a guy to your tastes would be difficult in NYC, but it appears the reality is - and this doesn't seem to be unique to NYC - that guys who match your type are not escorts. Or, they're not advertising on RM. I suspect this isn't just simply an issue of supply and demand as we think about it. I don't think that if the business gets slow, you'll suddenly find more guys that match your preferences. I live in NYC and when I walk around, I would say that the number of guys who would be a match for you would be somewhere around 2-3% of the guys I see. Of the 585 escorts listed in NYC, the 10 that seem as if they might be good matches for you are 1.7% of the population.

 

I completely understand your frustration. Your tastes are for a very small sample of the general population whether you look at the general public or RM. That sucks and it's just plain old reality. That leaves 2 options for you - either you stick to your preferences and realize you might have to do a lot of work to find a good match and that a good match might be very few and far between, or you could try expanding your interests and see if you might be able to find someone who doesn't quite match your current criteria, but maybe can be a great connection and fun time anyway. Either way, I wish you the best!

[+ Truereview]

Out of curiosity, I took the details you listed and did a search on RM. I looked for escorts between 20yo and 34yo, who weigh between 190-225, are white/Latin/Arab/Mediterranean, whose "style" is muscle man, jock, or guy next door, and are listed as tops. This narrowed the 585 escorts in the NYC area to 21. A cursory glance of those 21 - ruling out guys with lots of tattoos - and it's about 10. That's a relatively small sample given the number of listed escorts and that's before you do some research to see if you find them attractive and they have a demeanor/personality that you find attractive.

 

I did the same search in SF and found the field of 286 escorts narrowed to 8. Chicago - 140 escorts down to 5. I did not rule out guys with tattoos so this number may be lower in these cities.

 

I would not think that finding a guy to your tastes would be difficult in NYC, but it appears the reality is - and this doesn't seem to be unique to NYC - that guys who match your type are not escorts. Or, they're not advertising on RM. I suspect this isn't just simply an issue of supply and demand as we think about it. I don't think that if the business gets slow, you'll suddenly find more guys that match your preferences. I live in NYC and when I walk around, I would say that the number of guys who would be a match for you would be somewhere around 2-3% of the guys I see. Of the 585 escorts listed in NYC, the 10 that seem as if they might be good matches for you are 1.7% of the population.

 

I completely understand your frustration. Your tastes are for a very small sample of the general population whether you look at the general public or RM. That sucks and it's just plain old reality. That leaves 2 options for you - either you stick to your preferences and realize you might have to do a lot of work to find a good match and that a good match might be very few and far between, or you could try expanding your interests and see if you might be able to find someone who doesn't quite match your current criteria, but maybe can be a great connection and fun time anyway. Either way, I wish you the best!

Well done research, my man! And I would venture to say that the hunt for a unicorn is best done as a hobby than to expect the unicorn will don a horn and behave like a tame beast!

[BaronArtz]

In general, are there more (reputable) female escort agencies than male escort agencies? Just asking.

 

I am not aware of any male escort agencies operating in NYC. So the number would be zero. Say the number of female escort agencies is X. Since X/O = infinity, there are infinitely more female escort agencies in NYC. Only because you asked.

[Meo]

The type of man I find sexy isn't particularly unconventional. I like younger guys, early thirties and younger. Dark hair, olive skin. Fitness model build around the 200lbs mark. Masculine. Top. Turn offs include numerous tattoos, or a non clean cut demeanor. They have to be handsome to me, and admittedly that's a but harder to articulate. My actual tastes as to activities are pretty vanilla, nothing controversial there. They need to host incall.

 

Of 550+men on RM in nyc, I can often narrow it down to a small handful, but then a little research reveals that most are fakes or not particularly reliable.

 

If you think about this statistically, every "need to/have to" is a circle within a Venn diagram that may or may not overlap with another circle, and you are seeking multiple overlaps that will narrow a target down quite a bit. Age, hair color, skin tone, weight are all mutually exclusive sets to some degree, then throw in reliability/realness and the bull's eye might contract by half or more. It seems more likely that you will find a very few members of a single ideal type here on this whole forum than than you will land a perfect bull's eye in even the largest cities. Even ideal types within the same bull's eye may vary quite a bit.

[Despardo]

I am not aware of any male escort agencies operating in NYC. So the number would be zero. Say the number of female escort agencies is X. Since X/O = infinity, there are infinitely more female escort agencies in NYC. Only because you asked.

My memory of math (I majored in it for a while) is that one cannot have zero as a denominator. Am I being too literal here?

[Despardo]

The type of man I find sexy isn't particularly unconventional. I like younger guys, early thirties and younger. Dark hair, olive skin. Fitness model build around the 200lbs mark. Masculine. Top. Turn offs include numerous tattoos, or a non clean cut demeanor. They have to be handsome to me, and admittedly that's a but harder to articulate. My actual tastes as to activities are pretty vanilla, nothing controversial there. They need to host incall.

 

Of 550+men on RM in nyc, I can often narrow it down to a small handful, but then a little research reveals that most are fakes or not particularly reliable.

 

Hiring a woman to my tastes is much easier.

 

I don't think a guy that fits my tastes is asking for too much in a city like NYC. Maybe my taste in men is just too narrow.

 

OK, you are looking for under 30, olive skin, no or minimal tattoos, fitness model, able to host, dark hair, top, in the neighborhood of 200 lbs., clean cut, in NYC. I looked at Rent.men and without setting any criteria at all other than NYC, found the following guys all on the first page!

 

https://rent.men/CUBANOENLIMA

 

https://rent.men/HotMediterranean

 

https://rent.men/ValentinoX

 

https://rent.men/DRIVERX

 

https://rent.men/THIAGO_vix

 

https://rent.men/muscledtommy

 

https://rent.men/HUNG_FREAK

 

https://rent.men/Avidar

 

Am I missing something regarding your particular criteria? And here is another possibility who just appeared in a separate thread:

 

https://rentmen.com/ErikWest

[MikeyGMin]

The type of man I find sexy isn't particularly unconventional. I like younger guys, early thirties and younger. Dark hair, olive skin. Fitness model build around the 200lbs mark. Masculine. Top. Turn offs include numerous tattoos, or a non clean cut demeanor.

 

While not unconventional, these are very specific. Ink is very popular with muscle boys and facial hair is in style. Add the hair and skin tone and you are looking at a pretty small subset.

[RandyC]

I feel the Ops pain! I had similar, very narrow tastes (white, blond, blue eyes, smooth, clean shaven, muscular build, etc.) which ruled out most men. Thankfully, as I get older my tastes are broadening. I am still not really attracted to skinny, twinkish, clearly out of shape, or very effeminate guys but everything else is on the table or, should I say, in the sack.