Reluctant Daddy Posted September 7, 2016 Author Posted September 7, 2016 I wonder if the request for a pic is to see whether or not your worthy of being their client?
BaronArtz Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 What is the problem many of you seem to have with sending pics? I have no problem with that. If for some reason he won't 'do' me because of the way I look, let's clarify that right away - before I spend time and money to go over to his place and have a so-so experience. I had an escort in LA ask my name/age/occupation. The question about occupation surprised me more than anything. Really? Hey, I work in a bank. What else do you want to know? + V-Vhitner, LookingAround, tennisjock and 1 other 4
Reluctant Daddy Posted September 7, 2016 Author Posted September 7, 2016 What is the problem many of you seem to have with sending pics? I have a problem because I'm not sure where that pic may end up or how it may be used. I don't need the hassle and embarrassment of appearing on someone's tumblr blog or twitter feed as the sad old man trying to hire a 19 year old. I'm upfront when I contact an escort - my age, the fact that I'm not in shape, and that I'm not an attractive man. I think that should give them enough to help them with their decision. JamahlBrandon, LADoug1, + DickyF and 3 others 6
BaronArtz Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 I have a problem because I'm not sure where that pic may end up or how it may be used. I don't need the hassle and embarrassment of appearing on someone's tumblr blog or twitter feed as the sad old man trying to hire a 19 year old. I'm upfront when I contact an escort - my age, the fact that I'm not in shape, and that I'm not an attractive man. I think that should give them enough to help them with their decision. In 25+ years of hiring escorts, I have never seen that happen. Besides, that would be the END of somebody's career as an escort.
Meo Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 Besides, that would be the END of somebody's career as an escort. Would it? Because there seem to be not infrequent threads about a very very few workers who do this and still get hired because the next guy doesn't know. "Photo civility" is declining it seems to me. Johnny Manziel registered for his first classes back at Texas A&M and a classmate was tweeting a screenshot of Manziel's discussion board post almost as soon as he posted it. Hospital and nursing home employees are regularly reprimanded for taking unauthorized photos of their patients and posting them. I think it's fine for workers to advertise in blunt, non-PC detail what they are not into, and I agree I want to avoid a mismatch as much as they do. But demanding a pic has always struck me as demanding that the client advertise too. My mother was a cook, and in a nice restaurant she would not have wanted to be asked to help out cooking her meal!
greatnorthernp Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 What is the problem many of you seem to have with sending pics? "Austin Wolf". Some of us who hire are very public figures whose lives would be negatively impacted should the pics be made public. ncc1701d, + bashful, LADoug1 and 3 others 6
liubit Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) What is the problem many of you seem to have with sending pics? I do have a problem, @BaronArtz. I couldn't care less what they think about how I look. It is not that. This is why: I have a problem because I'm not sure where that pic may end up or how it may be used. I don't need the hassle and embarrassment of appearing on someone's tumblr blog or twitter feed as the sad old man trying to hire a 19 year old. I'm upfront when I contact an escort - my age, the fact that I'm not in shape, and that I'm not an attractive man. I think that should give them enough to help them with their decision. Exactly my thought. You never know where your pic will end up. Like @greatnorthernp says, "Some of us who hire are very public figures whose lives would be negatively impacted should the pics be made public." Edited September 8, 2016 by liubit + bashful and Reluctant Daddy 2
BaronArtz Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 "Austin Wolf". Some of us who hire are very public figures whose lives would be negatively impacted should the pics be made public. What do you think it has done to Austin Wolf's business? How many very public and not so very public figures would hire him after the Twitter incident? Posting pictures is suicidal for an escort's career.
+ bashful Posted September 8, 2016 Posted September 8, 2016 What do you think it has done to Austin Wolf's business? Given he still is asking $500/hour, not much.
+ Lance_Navarro Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 I recognize that everyone runs there business differently and that a young person may not have the open-mind, compassion and experience that it takes to work with clients of all ages, shapes and sizes. However, I take issue with such levels of screening. When someone reaches out to us, especially if they don't often hire, they are likely filled with great uncertainty and perhaps some fears or insecurities, but their desire is to move past that and be nurtured, eased and find pleasure. The last thing they need is someone telling them that they are too old, fat or a wrong fit ethnically or racially. LADoug1, + glennnn, Reluctant Daddy and 3 others 6
+ Truereview Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 I recognize that everyone runs there business differently and that a young person may not have the open-mind, compassion and experience that it takes to work with clients of all ages, shapes and sizes. However, I take issue with such levels of screening. When someone reaches out to us, especially if they don't often hire, they are likely filled with great uncertainty and perhaps some fears or insecurities, but their desire is to move past that and be nurtured, eased and find pleasure. The last thing they need is someone telling them that they are too old, fat or a wrong fit ethnically or racially. Totally agree. I would add that everyone has the right to have their own protocols and that clients who have no issue sharing their photos or personal info, again, are entitled to do so. However, let's just be perfectly clear that as we make those choices (requesting and giving personal data), we are enabling the existence of these requirements & protocols, and thereby, we are contributing to making it very difficult for folks who don't yet have the freedoms and liberties that some of us have ( i.e., being comfortably out or feeling secure about our looks or playing the field without guilt or whatever your challenge is). I support individual freedom of choice, but when the individual choices I make deter others from being able to enjoy the very things I choose, I do try to pause and evaluate whether my actions are actually aiding exclusive behaviors. I wish I was strong enough to always make the "right" moral choice - by my ownstandards, but I do find myself batting 50/50 in some decisions I take solace in the fact that I at least pause to think about it and then I try to own the fact that what I choose may unintentionally help exclude others. Reluctant Daddy and mike carey 2
Reluctant Daddy Posted September 9, 2016 Author Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) When someone reaches out to us, especially if they don't often hire, they are likely filled with great uncertainty and perhaps some fears or insecurities, but their desire is to move past that and be nurtured, eased and find pleasure. The last thing they need is someone telling them that they are too old, fat or a wrong fit ethnically or racially. This is spot on. I started hiring because of those fears and insecurities. I wasn't certain how it would go, but the guys I hired didn't see me the way I see myself. There weren't any issues at all. I can't even begin to explain the feeling of being held, touched and tenderly kissed by someone who didn't treat me as old and out of shape. Edited September 9, 2016 by Reluctant Daddy AndreFuture and LADoug1 2
MrMiniver Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 I've been corresponding with an 18 year old advertising on RM. His hourly rate is insanely low ($100 an hour - with the question, "with or without sex?"), but he won't discuss any further until I provide him with my age (on my RM profile), my name, and pics. He's indicated that all are required before we meet. Neither his pics nor his ID are verified on the site, and he's only been a regular member for a month. I know it's not a standard request, but is it best to walk away?? I never give out any real personal information until I've established some sort of ongoing thing with that person. I wasn't born yesterday. Sandlapp 1
Sandlapp Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 I recognize that everyone runs there business differently and that a young person may not have the open-mind, compassion and experience that it takes to work with clients of all ages, shapes and sizes. However, I take issue with such levels of screening. When someone reaches out to us, especially if they don't often hire, they are likely filled with great uncertainty and perhaps some fears or insecurities, but their desire is to move past that and be nurtured, eased and find pleasure. The last thing they need is someone telling them that they are too old, fat or a wrong fit ethnically or racially. You really get what this is about. I believe the most important service an escort can provide is to make the client feel welcomed, desired, and sexy. You're fulfilling a fantasy, if only for an hour. LADoug1 and + Eric Hassan 2
JamahlBrandon Posted September 10, 2016 Posted September 10, 2016 I recognize that everyone runs there business differently and that a young person may not have the open-mind, compassion and experience that it takes to work with clients of all ages, shapes and sizes. However, I take issue with such levels of screening. When someone reaches out to us, especially if they don't often hire, they are likely filled with great uncertainty and perhaps some fears or insecurities, but their desire is to move past that and be nurtured, eased and find pleasure. The last thing they need is someone telling them that they are too old, fat or a wrong fit ethnically or racially. I don't necessarily think the point of asking someone's age and name is an invasion of privacy or being overly selective. Most clients are willing to offer that information anyway. With today's text and email as forms of contact before meeting, it would be careless not to. I personally have come to ask everyone their name, age, and sometimes even stats/ethnicity before meeting IF...they contact by text or email. I rarely ever have anyone turn away because of that. Asking for a picture, yes that's a bit over the top. But...more than enough people voluntarily send me their pictures anyway, and have become real actual clients. Especially with adam4adam, I don't even have to ask...and in fact I stopped meeting adam4adam clients who don't have a picture. Usually not serious is why. Most do, There's never been a reason to...unless they contacted me prior from another site, with that information. It's just common sense. Instead of a text ban, I've been able to compromise. I don't ask as a means of sizing someone up, but it can make the difference between a legit appointment, and something a little more sinister. Asking these questions can save a lot of headache, especially when traveling. I once neglected to ask said questions, and ended up driving 30 miles in LA traffic going to a home with an under aged looking Asian kid who seemed a bit mental. Had I asked, I'd of spared myself many hours of wasted time. I also have a persistent stalker who contacts me every few weeks from different numbers trying to book me, and those verifying questions help me quickly stop him in his tracks. Everyone has their reasons, but for me it's for verification purposes. Nothing personal.
sincitymix Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 So, did you end up hiring him? And what was the end result? ThatGrlSam 1
LADoug1 Posted October 7, 2016 Posted October 7, 2016 Sometimes I send a pic unsolicited by the escort. I want to be sure he is interested in seeing me. + honcho 1
greatnorthernp Posted October 8, 2016 Posted October 8, 2016 Sometimes I send a pic unsolicited by the escort. I want to be sure he is interested in seeing me. I send pictures of money. Rod Hagen, BigK, AndreFuture and 7 others 10
Bargara Leatherboy Posted October 8, 2016 Posted October 8, 2016 What is the problem many of you seem to have with sending pics? I have no problem with that. If for some reason he won't 'do' me because of the way I look, let's clarify that right away - before I spend time and money to go over to his place and have a so-so experience. I had an escort in LA ask my name/age/occupation. The question about occupation surprised me more than anything. Really? Hey, I work in a bank. What else do you want to know? Well I work in law enforcement (support not an police officer) and I can just imagine what that information would do to the setting up of an appointment. If an escort asks me during our meeting what do I do - I say that and wait for their reaction - is this a set up etc . It interesting . But asking the question - how does he know you are telling the truth ?
BaronArtz Posted October 9, 2016 Posted October 9, 2016 Well I work in law enforcement (support not an police officer) and I can just imagine what that information would do to the setting up of an appointment. If an escort asks me during our meeting what do I do - I say that and wait for their reaction - is this a set up etc . It interesting . But asking the question - how does he know you are telling the truth ? Sure. He doesn't know if you are telling the truth. This guy was very smart and very astute though. I remember that during my first meeting with him, he asked some innocent-sounding questions in an effort to 'qualify' me. This escort was interested in finding a few 'sugar daddy' type clients that he was comfortable with. It is exactly what ended up happening.
+ Lance_Navarro Posted October 9, 2016 Posted October 9, 2016 When I'm scheduling with someone all that I ask is their name and I invite them to tell me anything they would like about themselves and what they enjoy, that way they can share whatever they feel is relevant. I don't see how someone's job is in anyway relevant to making an appointment. It can make for good conversation once we are together, but isn't important in advance. LADoug1, BigAppleJay, + glennnn and 3 others 6
+ glennnn Posted October 9, 2016 Posted October 9, 2016 I recognize that everyone runs there business differently and that a young person may not have the open-mind, compassion and experience that it takes to work with clients of all ages, shapes and sizes. However, I take issue with such levels of screening. When someone reaches out to us, especially if they don't often hire, they are likely filled with great uncertainty and perhaps some fears or insecurities, but their desire is to move past that and be nurtured, eased and find pleasure. The last thing they need is someone telling them that they are too old, fat or a wrong fit ethnically or racially. This is why the words that come to my mind remembering you are: wonderful, kind, beautiful, sexy, expert, healing, sweet, passionate, satisfying, unique, magical, gold standard. Thank you + 1000. + Lance_Navarro 1
+ Lance_Navarro Posted October 9, 2016 Posted October 9, 2016 This is why the words that come to my mind remembering you are: wonderful, kind, beautiful, sexy, expert, healing, sweet, passionate, satisfying, unique, magical, gold standard. Thank you + 1000. Thanks so much sweet man!
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