How to avoid a dud escort

[Sandlapp]

I'd love to hear ideas on avoiding hiring a guy who is a dud. By dud, I mean someone who doesn't do what he says he'll do in his profile, or just generally isn't very good at his job. recently met with a guy with 10 five star reviews on RM. We messaged back and forth and he seemed energetic and engaging. when I got there, he had no personality, didn't kiss (he promised otherwise), and generally didn't seem to know what to do.

[dlee02]

I'm not an escort, but if you read other threads in the deli section, it seems RM's reviews are anything but reliable.

 

I've always tried to rely on the more detailed reviews on daddys website as well as the collective wisdom of members of this forum. I think sometimes a bit of luck helps too.

 

Even with the help of this board and daddys I've had my share of dud hires...

 

Good luck!

[Racketjock]

Agree with dlee02 and his good advice. I sincerely appreciate the referrals of those on this board and reviews by folks who have been around and I share common tastes in men. That has been the biggest indicator I will have a good time, though not always. I tend to think a dud may happen from time to time, simply because of failure to align communication with expectation or simply one of us ends up having an off moment or day. We are all human and it happens. I am obsessive about my hygiene and communicating what I want to get out of time spent but through it all appreciate the value of honesty and being kind. That seems to help both of us have a good time.

[+ Truereview]

Welcome aboard, @Sandlapp !

 

I would add that to get best referrals in this forum, it is essential for the client to be crystal clear about what he is looking for in the escort. Chemistry is a tricky thing. My best referrals have come thru very detailed private conversations with forum members. Reading the public posts is helpful, but the one-on-one discussions are better and also avoid derailers. Additionally, I believe it should be expected and common courtesy to close the loop with the referrer once you hired that escort. This serves two purposes: helps the person who helped you get closure but also augments their perspective on the escort. Lastly, please don't blame the referrer if things don't work out. I remember losing face with a forum buddy bc the escort I referred stood him up. Although that was out of my control, I felt awful and the fact that my forum buddy kept rubbing it in made it worse. Let's give each other some grace; there are no guarantees.

Edited July 29, 2016 by Truereview

[Sandlapp]

Great info. Thanks.

[AdamSmith]

We messaged back and forth and he seemed energetic and engaging. when I got there, he had no personality, didn't kiss (he promised otherwise), and generally didn't seem to know what to do.

Interacting by phone and hearing his voice for 3 or 4 minutes can yield valuable info & intuition about a guy that texts or emails often will not.

[DonaldTramp]

Interacting by phone and hearing his voice for 3 or 4 minutes can yield valuable info & intuition about a guy that texts or emails often will not.

I never hire anyone unless I hear their voice first. There was one guy whose pictures I used to drool over. Finally, I called him. Once I heard his voice, I knew there was no way that I would be into him.

[+ glennnn]

@Sandlapp,

Welcome aboard! Don't be shy, jump in and let us get to know you. Make use of the RM, private conversation feature to get more private help when you need it. This forum is a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Ladies.

 

PS: You have a wicked good avatar.

[+ Keith30309]

I've talked in advance with a tiny minority of guys I've met. Excluding those who have stood me up I have had largely good luck by written communication. Go figure.

[Sandlapp]

@Sandlapp,

Welcome aboard! Don't be shy, jump in and let us get to know you. Make use of the RM, private conversation feature to get more private help when you need it. This forum is a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Ladies.

 

PS: You have a wicked good avatar.

Thanks!

[Beancounter]

Your escort's name wasn't Chris by chance, was it? The description of your experience was eerily the same as I had with an escort.

 

Welcome to the Forum @Sandlapp. Enjoyed watching you on Dancing with the Stars! :p:p

[+ Truereview]

Flash news! Amazon is having a sale on dud detectors! $19.99 and it comes with a set of Ginsu knives! Only catch is you have to insert the pistol-looking tool into any orifice.

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[beachboy]

Flash news! Amazon is having a sale on dud detectors! $19.99 and it comes with a set of Ginsu knives! Only catch is you have to insert the pistol-looking tool into any orifice.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/new/2013/04/24/national/images/30204685-03_big.jpg

Ouch!

[+ Funguy]

Bear in mind that it is possible for a previously hired guy with whom you had a great time already, to turn into a dud. This happened to me with a well-known guy: first visit was terrific, 2nd was terrible and i called it at an hour (for a 2 hour appt). We both decided this was an aberration and scheduled another. The same problem again. No more chances.

[Sandlapp]

Your escort's name wasn't Chris by chance, was it? The description of your experience was eerily the same as I had with an escort.

 

Welcome to the Forum @Sandlapp. Enjoyed watching you on Dancing with the Stars! :p:p

Thank you! It was grueling but worth it. . His name was not Chris. He didn't seem to have a first name. Or maybe he just didn't have enough imagination to come up with one. He was a LA based dud who was traveling.If you contact me directly, I could tell you who he was, assuming I can figure out how to respond. This is my first day on this site.

[marylander1940]

I never hire anyone unless I hear their voice first. There was one guy whose pictures I used to drool over. Finally, I called him. Once I heard his voice, I knew there was no way that I would be into him.

 

me too... text me your address and everything else but let's talk for a couple of minutes.

[rvwnsd]

Welcome, @Sandlapp. Sadly, there are escorts who do not deliver a wonderful experience every time. I echo what others have said: when a guy's ad strikes you as interesting and you might want to hire him post a query on The Deli. If you add a link to the guy's ad and provide a description of what you are looking for you will receive more replies than if you simply ask for information.

[gallahadesquire]

Welcome, Sandlapp. Hot avatar.

 

I had an appointment with a Very Hot, Very Muscular man who has the highest reviews here. For me: Nothing. Not worse than nothing, but nothing. And he was just my type.

 

On the other hand, I've had two five-day trips with someone that I probably never would have hired except for recommendations from this site. we just seem to mesh.

[Becket]

Yup, it's all about chemistry, daahling. Reviews are helpful but they only address half of the issue. What you bring to the table affects the event as much as what the escort offers. Not even the escort stars have a 100% success rate. Sometimes it just isn't gonna work between two people, even for an hour.

 

Besides, getting a few battle scars is part of the deal.

[ChrisWydeman]

I'd love to hear ideas on avoiding hiring a guy who is a dud. By dud, I mean someone who doesn't do what he says he'll do in his profile, or just generally isn't very good at his job. recently met with a guy with 10 five star reviews on RM. We messaged back and forth and he seemed energetic and engaging. when I got there, he had no personality, didn't kiss (he promised otherwise), and generally didn't seem to know what to do.

I'm going to be that guy so shoot me but...

 

I have had many people in my time escorting tell me they love to kiss and that its a requirement which is fine by me but when they try to kiss it makes me run out the door and never come back. Are you sure your a good kisser? Are you moving your tongue around? Darting in and out like a snake isn't sexy. Do you wave it around like a parrot? I am a fan of deep wet sloppy kissing myself but there is a fine line between passionate and being licked like a dog.

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[Sandlapp]

I get your point and I'm sure you're asked to kiss some frogs, but the quality of my kissing never came up with this guy because he would not kiss at all, after telling me in advance that he absolutely would.

 

And by the way, I'm freaking awesome at it.

[tennisjock]

I research and see if the guy has reviews on daddy. Rm and men4rentnow reviews I take with a grain of salt. But if the poorly reviewed reviews out number the good ones...I go with my gut..I look at the year the review was submitted and if it was a first time reviewer who never reviewed anyone again..that is quite suspicious to me. Most guys won't say on the phone or in a text what they will or won't do ...I do ask if what they are into is correct and go from there. After a while you will develop a bs radar danger danger button. Just always be safe and be prudent of your surroundings and where you are etc

[Becket]

After a while you will develop a bs radar danger danger button.

 

Seriously you do. The times when I have been scammed have usually been after ignoring this sixth sense. And I'm a slow learner. Can't tell you how many unfortunate experiences I had my first couple years of hiring. On the other hand I've made a few contacts that have been awesome for years, almost a decade now. Am still attracted like a bug to a lamp when I run across a new guy that on first glance rings all my buttons. But I don't take many chances any more. Perhaps I ought to be more daring....

[loverboy95]

I only hire escorts who I have seen have good reviews here on Daddy's and I even go as far as to PM other members who have certain escorts to ask about their experiences with them. I do realize that this does not necessarily mean that I will have a good time if I hire an escort in question, but it at least shows that the escort has some credibility. I am still a believer in the term "stranger danger" so I usually don't see escorts who don't have many reviews or no one can vouch for.

 

I do want to say that just because you hire an escort who has rave reviews, it does not mean that you are guaranteed to have a good time with him nor does it mean that you will have a good time with the escort every time you hire him after the first time. I had two great meetings with an escort I loved, but the third meeting was very underwhelming and lackluster. I even made a thread about this here: http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/is-there-such-a-thing-as-a-3rd-visit-curse.109726/

 

 

What I would say is do lots of research before hiring, but don't think that just because of good reviews, you'll have a good time. Sometimes, it is going to be a risk you will have to take.

Edited January 26, 2017 by loverboy95

[MasterMaxRR]

Hi Y'all!

 

(Read in a Texas woman's drawl) I'm sure you're all tired of me sticking my nose in every thread, but I just can't HELP myself!!!

 

(Back to normal voice...)

 

I am absolutely sure that doing due diligence as everyone here has suggested is the first and foremost way of avoiding duds, and it is absolutely true that duds happen from time to time no matter what you do or how perfect your method is.

 

Allow me to share an analogy. You meet a hot guy in a bar that gives you a stiffie just looking at him. You chat for a bit and dance, decide to go out for coffee chat for hours, get home, rip each other's clothes off and get down to business... Boring, stale and flat. Neither of you can believe it, but it just didn't work. This happens. Rarely, but it happens.

 

It might be entirely possible that the escort was a smooth hand at generating interest and skilled at recruiting (which is the easy bit really), but when it came down to doing the work, he may have been burnt out, having a bad day or just zoning out, had smoked a hit of reefer, the list goes on and on. I've worked with escorts that were burnt out hardcore, but somehow they still managed to communicate with what seemed to be genuine interest in the client, but observing them as they were writing or talking told me it was all smoke and mirrors. Then, seeing them in action, while they were able to be seen by the client they were animated, but as soon as they weren't being perceived, boop! Zone out! Eerie as hell really. And then a couple years later it happened to me. Remembering that zoned out escort prompted me to take a vacation, and after, to take a 6 month break. Best thing I ever did.

 

Ultimately, as an adittional layer of strategy to avoid duds after doing due diligence, I like to to say in the initial contact: "More than anything, what gets me randy as all F@&k is eagerness and enthusiasm is that ok?" Feel free to put your personal twist on the first bit, but always say "Is that ok?" It immediately confronts the issue in a polite way, and puts the ball in their court. It seems to give those who don't like to be present and engage pause and since it's directly contrary to how they work, they'll find a way to get out of it. If they continue to set up the appointment, then you have a specific reference to call them out on it when it happens. And the best bit, if you say this to a genuinely engaged escort, you get an eager and enthusiastic boy ready to please! Win-Win and umm... Win!!

 

 

Hope this helps,

Master Max

 

 

P.S. As far as kissing, here's my best method. Gaze into the eyes of the person you want to kiss. Softly stoke their hair and then placing your hand on the back of their head, with the barest amount of pressure pull them towards you, tilt your head to the right (always right people...) let yourself break eye contact for the first time to sight your target, and make the landing with a chaste brushing of the lips for a half second and then slowly ratchet up the intensity of pressure. Open your lips and allow them to do the same. Share a breath for a second or two and only then, slip your tongue in. Moan so that the vibrations travel along the tongues, and from here, go as intense and as long as you like. When the kiss breaks, lean into their neck and breathe deeply... Wait. I'm not writing a porno here, just describing the perfect kiss. *blush*. I may not be a huge fan of kissing, but this method always worked for me!