Am I the only one of us whose gaydar is going off?

[Rudynate]

, so either your ear for accents is impeccable or you knew that and you were showing off.

 

 

He is a native speaker, after all. It wouldn't be unlike us being able to tell that someone is from Canada, or the US or the UK.

[mike carey]

He is a native speaker, after all. It wouldn't be unlike us being able to tell that someone is from Canada, or the US or the UK.

Yes, I know he is a native speaker, I was having a minor joke with him. I have no idea what picking a Honduran accent approximates in English: is it like picking a southern accent or picking which county in Kentucky someone is from?

[+ FreshFluff]

On the other hand, I thought Bloomberg's speech was excellent. He said the same things I have been thinking throughout the campaign.

 

+1 on that. Being hit by a respected guy with real money has got to hurt.

 

Here's Trump's reaction this morning.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Yes, I know he is a native speaker, I was having a minor joke with him. I have no idea what picking a Honduran accent approximates in English: is it like picking a southern accent or picking which county in Kentucky someone is from?

 

Picking a Honduran accent takes much more skills than picking a British, Aussi, or American accent. Even I can do that. I would say a better analogy would be picking a Northern California accent out of all the English accents in store.

[liubit]

Picking a Honduran accent takes much more skills than picking a British, Aussi, or American accent. Even I can do that. I would say a better analogy would be picking a Northern California accent out of all the English accents in store.

I am a Latin American Spanish native speaker, and I totally agree. It is a piece of cake to distinguish certain accents, such as Madrid Spanish from any Latin American; Mexican from Chilean or Argentinian, or else Peruvian from Colombian, but trying to correctly tell Uruguayan from Argentinian, Venezuelan from Colombian, or Salvadorean from Honduran is quite a challenge.

[Guest]

Not as strongly as it does when Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz speak. Those two are as gay as picnic baskets.

 

Personally, I never liked that term although I love that cute "meter" picture. The only time "gaydar" sounds right to me is when one person is trying to determine if another he or she is interested in has mutual desires and is analyzing facial expressions and words spoken. Not any stereotypical expressions like a man talking "effeminate". Everybody else uses "gaydar" like they do to determine if somebody is Jewish, communist, a terrorist or has "an ounce of NeeeGrow Blood in 'em" as in the golden age of segregation.

 

I agree that Huckabee and Cruz sound pretty gay, too, especially Cruz, and especially Lindsey Graham. If Lindsey Graham is straight, I'm not a unicorn, I'm a warthog. I'm not sure I would liken a gay person to a terrorist. I don't see telling people that I think a man's gay as an insult. Quite the contrary.

[longtime lurker]

I guess I over analyze things at times.

[+ bashful]

gaydars going off when Tim Kaine speaks

 

Late to the party, and would like to say I don't think anyone should be "defined".

 

I only saw him speak for a few moments, but to be honest, I did get the gay vibe.

[bobchitown]

No gaydar going off but I suspect Hillary will have him on the treadmill tomorrow. Gotta get down to campaign weight.

[Guest]

Late to the party, and would like to say I don't think anyone should be "defined".

Well, as a hidden minority, we have to "define" ourselves. We can be subjected to discrimination, but when we achieve success, our achievements are often hidden as well. Just as I'm sure black people feel a sense of pride when one of their own overcomes obstacles to become a success, I like to feel pride when one of my own overcomes obstacles to become a success. When a gay man or lesbian hides his identity, it hurts all of us. Being bashful doesn't advance the gay community. Being brashful does. Good for those who set an example.

[MFLV]

My gaydar went off when I heard and saw him speak. It was the first thing that came to my mind.

[Guest]

My gaydar went off when I heard and saw him speak. It was the first thing that came to my mind.

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[MikeyGMin]

Picking a Honduran accent takes much more skills than picking a British, Aussi, or American accent. Even I can do that. I would say a better analogy would be picking a Northern California accent out of all the English accents in store.

 

Question for the native Spanish speakers. One of my friends (Mexican) is helping me with my Spanish so I can communicate better with a hot Costa Rican. He taught me some slang recently.

 

Arroz con popote

 

It's the equivalent of saying someone is "light in their loafers" in English. But my Costa Rican friend had never heard the expression. Is it slang in any other Latin country? Just curious.

 

Also, my Mexican friend has a very juvenile sense of humor. Is it playful slang or insulting slang? My friend would giggle either way so I can hardly trust his judgment.

[liubit]

It is indeed a Mexican expression for gay. Popote is a word used exclusively in Mexico for "drinking straw". If you drink "arroz con leche" (rice pudding) through a straw --very difficult, in my opinion--, a cum-looking liquid would drip from the end of the straw, and it would look like a cum-dripping dick you just sucked. A variant that I have heard more often is "he likes yogurt con popote", which has exactly the same visual effect.

 

I don't think it is slang in any other country, as popote is used only in Mexico. And no, it is not too offensive, but more like a gay code.

[beachboy]

Lol! I had the opportunity to hear him in Miami. I detect a faint Honduran accent in his Español but that's about it.

My gaydar is infallible. I can usually detect if a man is gay/bi/straight right after they shoot in my mouth, chest, or ass.

That'll do it every time!!

[+ José Soplanucas]

It is indeed a Mexican expression for gay. Popote is a word used exclusively in Mexico for "drinking straw". If you drink "arroz con leche" (rice pudding) through a straw --very difficult, in my opinion--, a cum-looking liquid would drip from the end of the straw, and it would look like a cum-dripping dick you just sucked. A variant that I have heard more often is "he likes yogurt con popote", which has exactly the same visual effect.

 

I don't think it is slang in any other country, as popote is used only in Mexico. And no, it is not too offensive, but more like a gay code.

 

Gracias, liubit! I didn't know that expression. In the proper context, it is a fun thing to teach my AP students.

[+ sniper]

Well, in Europe it wouldn't be, where it is commonplace to be fluent in 2 or 3 or 4 languages. But in the brain-dead USA, where it is unusual for anyone to know more than a few words of a foreign language, to me, fluency in even one foreign language is an indicator of a singular intellect. And gay men tend to have singular intellects.

 

Not so sure I agree with the last part. I think that's selection bias in that in the past, when oppression was more widespread, being "out" safely required a certain amount of financial independence/self-sufficiency that intelligence helps with to some extent. I don't really think gay people are smarter than average. I can believe out gay people are. Now that it's relatively easier to be out I see plenty of vapid gays who are still talking about virtually nothing but Gaga vs. Madonna well into their 30s...

[Rudynate]

Now that it's relatively easier to be out I see plenty of vapid gays who are still talking about virtually nothing but Gaga vs. Madonna well into their 30s...

 

They have always been there and it doesn't mean they aren't smart. One achieves an extraordinary intellect by cultivating it. Even the "vapid" gay men you speak so disparagingly of have usually become extraordinarily good at something - cutting hair, selecting clothes, fan dancing, drag, manscaping, something. I do agree, though, that assimilation breeds mediocrity.

[+ quoththeraven]

I agree that no group other than those with organic intellectual disabilities has an inborn advantage or disadvantage when it comes to intellect. But growing up in a culture that rewards and respects smarts, intelligence, scholarship and intellectualism makes a difference.

 

Sorry, I don't believe in exceptionalism based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Cultural identity, possibly, but it's because of what the culture values, not because members of that culture are inherently superior. In this case, I'm thinking of Jewish and East/South Asian cultural norms.

 

Those are just my impressions, though. Someone should do a rigorous study, preferably international in scope, although the US might actually have the sheer numbers to do a decent randomized study anyway.

[Rudynate]

In this case, I'm thinking of Jewish and East/South Asian cultural norms.

 

 

I have always admired the way Jewish culture fosters individual excellence. I hate to give the Mormon faith credit for anything, but LDS community and family life also seems to foster accomplishment and personal excellence.

[+ FreshFluff]

I have always admired the way Jewish culture fosters individual excellence. I hate to give the Mormon faith credit for anything, but LDS community and family life also seems to foster accomplishment and personal excellence.

 

I heard that Jewish culture fosters respect for education and critical thinking. But recently, I met this one Jewish girl who really nice but not too bright. So now I'm starting to have doubts about all that.

[Nvr2Thick]

He's cute! So we're projecting our own desires on him.

 

I mean, this morning female Twitter is composing a DILF calendar out of pics of Kaine through the ages.

 

 

 

You're welcome.

 

Now we know what Seth MacFarlane will look like in 15-20 years.

[+ sniper]

I have always admired the way Jewish culture fosters individual excellence. I hate to give the Mormon faith credit for anything, but LDS community and family life also seems to foster accomplishment and personal excellence.

 

The Mormons do it at the expense of driving people who don't fit the mold to suicide. And they take that higher suicide rate as evidence that not following THEIR path is the road to ruin. I've argued extensively in another forum with LDS members for years on this, and they are amazingly Stepford-like. Very little of "whatever you do to the least of my brethren you do to me" made it into that religion. Having a somewhat rigid set of rules though, does in some ways foster a discipline that probably allows a lot of people to do a little better because what is expected is laid out for you. I hear about a lot of LDS doing well in business or at sports, not so much the hard sciences.

 

Jewish culture is different because it actually encourages questioning(at least aside from the ultra-Orthodox sects).

[Rudynate]

The Mormons do it at the expense of driving people who don't fit the mold to suicide. And they take that higher suicide rate as evidence that not following THEIR path is the road to ruin. I've argued extensively in another forum with LDS members for years on this, and they are amazingly Stepford-like. Very little of "whatever you do to the least of my brethren you do to me" made it into that religion. Having a somewhat rigid set of rules though, does in some ways foster a discipline that probably allows a lot of people to do a little better because what is expected is laid out for you. I hear about a lot of LDS doing well in business or at sports, not so much the hard sciences.

 

Jewish culture is different because it actually encourages questioning(at least aside from the ultra-Orthodox sects).

 

I could tell you like arguing. Your username is well-chosen.

[MikeyGMin]

I've argued extensively in another forum with LDS members for years on this, and they are amazingly Stepford-like

 

Why would you bother? Faith, by its very nature, is not constrained by rational thought. Some religions are certainly worse than others, but once you buy into magical thinking, it won't be shaken by mere facts.

 

I come from a Mormon family so I have first-hand experience with the cult-like aspects of the religion. However, I don't spend a lot of energy thinking about them or debating with them. They find comfort in their beliefs and I don't begrudge them that -- as long as they refrain from politics.