Re-Posts

[Vincent_Michael]

Hey guys this is something I have been thinking of posting on for a while.

 

I have read a few posts in which many of the posters of the MC almost make a disclaimer about weather a post has been submitted before or not. Personally I hate it when people have to remind me or anyone else if a topic has been discussed here before. I personally don’t care and to be honest I don’t want to look in the archives for two hours for something that I might have a question about.

 

Using spell check, The Spelling man!

[+ Charlie]

Unfortunately, spell check doesn't help one distinguish between "weather" and "whether".

[Vincent_Michael]

ROFL Oh well. I tried

[VaHawk]

You make a valid point, as many newbies to this site, or any site, are not aware of how often a topic has been discussed, and are not aware of the archiving/search functions or how to use them.

 

My feelings on this point? It depends on how recently the topic of the posting was discussed and the attitude with which one is instructed to refer to the archives.

 

If the only response is "this has been discussed many times" with no other info contained in the response, then I could see how this would not go over too well with the op.

 

However, if the response states "this has been discussed many times", with info on how the op can search the archives for further info, then I think the responder is doing the op a favor, as many veterans of the board will not continue to respond over and over and over on oft discussed topics broached by newbies. As such, a response on how to search the archives, can provide the op with more info, than he would get from a posting that few of the veterans would respond to for the umpteenth time.

 

>Using spell check, The Spelling man!

 

Does Spelling Man wear blue tights and a red cape and have a big "S" logo emblazoned across his chest?

 

"almost make a disclaimer about weather a post"

 

Using spell check, isn't 100% effective, as it can only verify that a word is spelled correctly, not that the correct word is used.

 

A successful completion to a journey, whether that journey is undertaken alone, or in the company of others, could be dependent upon the weather conditions encountered along the way. Just ask Dorothy and Toto about that tornado in Kansas.

 

I'm just pointing out the flaws of spellcheck to you VM, in I hope, a teasing way, so please don't take offense. I think it is great, that you care enough about improving your communicating abilities, that you go to the effort to use products like spellcheck. That effort, imho, is a positive testament to your character as a human being.

 

I love your refreshing attitudes about the escorting business and your honesty, humor and above all your personality. Not to mention, your refreshing attitude about life in general, as who really gives a fig if you can spell or not, and if you spell "cat" "kaat", what does it matter, when all is said and done?

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Message Center For Dummies

 

This site has a search function. Some of you are correc: it could help the "newbies" when they join if someone told them how to use the search function. But this is not the case.

 

One of the things which makes threads difficult to search for is trying to remember the poster who may have said something, what the subject was or what the posts were. For example, you would think that searching for std in all forums will give you all the threads the answer what the common std's are, how to avoid them, how to treat them, where to go for information, etc. Unfortunately, it would give you an entire universe of threads about escort X or Y or Z having this std, and all sorts of other threads that are not going to provide what you seek.

 

Similarly, someone may post a question about San Francisco or Palm Springs. I know what my threads on the subject are, I know that Devon often responded to this, and so I can search for some of these threads and respond, this has been discussed before, here are the threads and I often do so. I also often answer some of the questions in the threads because information might change. Hotels are no longer as inexpensive in San Francisco as they once were, Priceline collapsed the zones in San Francisco so more care has to be taken, certain guest houses in Palm Springs are no longer popular or have become the new place, etc.

 

However, doing this takes time and work.

 

You may notice that a thread about where to stay in San Francisco may have gotten 20 or so response two years ago but a thread today may only get a few. Obviously, it helps to answer today that they might find more information, for example, the opinions of others on where to stay or what to do, by searching for older threads. Often, as we all know, posters do not repeat themselves. Some do, but most do not.

 

Additionally, those questions which get asked often (tipping an escort, dealing with an std, travel) get skipped by those who have answered them in the past. If you do a search and found every thread on tipping, you will find that certain posters, even though they continue to actively post today, are not answering this question, which they may have answer in 2000 or 2001.

 

This is why I, for example, when I state this was discussed previously also try to provide my impression of what the consensus opinion, either by escorts or clients, or both, was on the question. However, this is my impression. Someone may want to search for these threads and, frankly, it behooves them to learn how to do this themselves.

 

Finally, yes, it might be nice if Daddy or someone else wrote a "how-to" on searching and otherwise taking advantage of the site (i.e., how do we post an avatar, that other frequently asked question), but then how do we get all the newbies and everyone else who needs to read these FAQs to read them?

[Guest skrubber]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

Vince-

Congratulations!! You only got one wrong.

[Vincent_Michael]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

LOL Thanks

[Vincent_Michael]

Your right, if they give me or anyone else a way to look for the inforation I suppose there being nice and giving me information on how to look.

 

However I dont want to look, some people may but id rather spend my time re-posting an issue and do something else to save me the hassel. I understand though were your coming from.

 

EEEE Spelling check only helps to an extent but hell you know I tried and thats all that matters, plus I thought it would be funny.

 

Hey and thanks you for the awsome complament! It ment allot.

 

HUG!

[LovesYng]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

I guess once a "MESSAGE CENTER DUMMY ALWAYS A DUMMY"but we still love you anyway VM. Just think over 100 posts of miss spelled words, wonder how the BIG S will do on this next 100 post. Webster could help the dummy :9 :*

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[Vincent_Michael]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

What you said makes sense, however if there was a consense last time. Why not Poll again for a new conses? I think we posters can post over and over again because sometimes people and there ideas change.

 

I understand your trying to do me a servis by informing me that this is a old post, however it actully annoys me because there is never a explantion of how to look for the post. Also there is the manner in which people present "this is a old post" Kinda in My openion feels like "Hey stupid didnt you know?"

 

Oh well I ranted there a little but like I said I have been wanting to post on it for a while.

 

Hugs all!

[Vincent_Michael]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

Thanks I am kinda shocked at 100 alread and to think most if not all have a misspelled word.

 

LOL I am glad I can take things as jokes! Thanks for all your support and spelling corrections allong the way.

 

Oh I just woke up so the spelling this morning has to be awfull!

 

The Spelling Man

[LovesYng]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

>Oh well I ranted there a little but like I said I have been

>wanting to post on it for a while.

>

>Hugs all!

 

RANT, RANT, RANT, BITCH, BITCH, BITCH a little, OMG your starting to sound like some of the elders on here :* :9 But we still love you anyway and maybe if you but your glasses on in the AM the spelling could look better WOW I CAN SEE

 

Hugs VM aka: S Boy

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[+ deej]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

>Finally, yes, it might be nice if Daddy or someone else wrote

>a "how-to" on searching and otherwise taking advantage of the

>site (i.e., how do we post an avatar, that other frequently

>asked question), but then how do we get all the newbies and

>everyone else who needs to read these FAQs to read them?

 

The site's FAQ and the MC rules both contain information about searching for content. People don't read 'em.

 

This entire discussion is as old as the internet itself. Even when discussion rooms (or mailing lists, or newsgroups) were brand new there were some people who would complain about newbies asking repeat questions and others who would defend them.

 

The discussion won't be going away any time soon because people learn in different ways. Some people learn by research and others prefer to learn in open discussion. It's just part of being human.

[Vincent_Michael]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

I can see the light AND IT BURNS!!!!

 

I sound like the elders?

[LovesYng]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

>>Finally, yes, it might be nice if Daddy or someone else

>wrote

>>a "how-to" on searching and otherwise taking advantage of

>the

>>site (i.e., how do we post an avatar, that other frequently

>>asked question), but then how do we get all the newbies and

>>everyone else who needs to read these FAQs to read them?

>

>The site's FAQ and the MC rules both contain information about

>searching for content. People don't read 'em.

>

>This entire discussion is as old as the internet itself. Even

>when discussion rooms (or mailing lists, or newsgroups) were

>brand new there were some people who would complain about

>newbies asking repeat questions and others who would defend

>them.

>

>The discussion won't be going away any time soon because

>people learn in different ways. Some people learn by research

>and others prefer to learn in open discussion. It's just part

>of being human.

 

YES Mother, we hear you

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[nate_sf]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

I want to thank you, Franco, for coming to my rescue when I posted a question about Palm Springs last month, and providing the link to an earlier thread that discussed what I was asking about. I'd started by using the search function, came up with potential threads but nothing really jumped out at me, and I wouldn't have found the thread you cited since it was pretty far back. But once you supplied the link I had the info I was looking for.

 

As you and others have mentioned I think it's all in how the response to the original post is handled -- it can either come off as a helpful reference, or as a brush-off, depending on how it's handled. A link to the old thread is great and is definitely meant to be helpful, but you're right it takes time. Even something like "I think so-and-so posted a thread about this a year ago" or something along those lines could be helpful to someone as they dive into the search archives and at least might have a better clue of what to look for.

 

But there are also a lot of new people on this board, so the responses to a thread may change from even a year ago. Franco, if I haven't already kissed your ass enough in this post, I'd also like to add that I appreciate how you not only provide references to past threads, but also add a few words that bring things up to date and allow the conversation to hopefully extend beyond where it was last left off.

 

Probably pretty much everything has been discussed on this board at one time or another, so if things weren't re-posted there wouldn't be a whole lot to talk about. There have been slow times on the MC when I've wondered what's going on, and figured maybe everything's already been discussed and is in the archives so people are having a hard time coming up with something new to write about. Probably not the case, but I'm sure it's tedious for the "elders" to have to see the same topics again and again, which is probably why sometimes there aren't a lot of responses to what would otherwise seem to be an intersting topic. Although I haven't been on here all that long, there have been a few times where I'll see an interesting topic but just think to myself, "I spent a lot of time answering that last year, and just don't have the energy to do it all over again."

 

But hopefully we aren't so formal or hierarchical here that people have to be afraid of asking the same questions over and over again. Sure beats talking about the weather (which, btw, when I finally made it to Palm Springs totally sucked!! grrrrrrr).

[HooBoy]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

When you are the new kid in town and you ask where the hardware store is, it is much nicer when your good neighbor says, let me drive you there, rather than "it's in the yellow pages, dummy."

[eastbayguy]

Possible copyright violation?

 

>Hugs all!

 

Ahem. I believe Chuck50 has a limited copyright on all expressions involving "Hugs". At least on this site. Hoo knows...

 

:+

 

--EBG

[Guest gentle guy]

I like Deej's and Hoo's responses. :+

 

I agree with Vincent Michael. No matter how well-intentioned the poster may be, "this has been discussed here before" usually comes across as dismissive and condescending. I can understand if you are referring to a thread that is a week or two old, but threads older than that get buried. Besides, IMHO, some threads become so lengthy as to be unwieldy (like an oversized cock, lol), and a new thread should be started. Once a thread goes over 25-30 posts, I have trouble keeping track, and my attention span is better than most.

 

Speaking of Vincent Michael, give him a break about the spelling, guys! He knows spelling is not his forte, and he seems to be trying his best to improve, with considerable success!

[nate_sf]

RE: Message Center For Dummies

 

>Sure beats talking about the weather (which, btw,

>when I finally made it to Palm Springs totally sucked!!

>grrrrrrr).

 

Ooops, meant to say the weather sucked, not Palm Springs. PS was great, even in the rain. OK, that's enough from me now....

[giovoni]

Gore like ......

 

Hear Hear!

 

If some of the posts which did include "this has been brought up before etc." had been pruned of these specific words, would they sound any less dismissive and condescending though.

 

Not that I consider myself that much of an expert in writing, but I would also like to add that I've noticed Vincent's spelling and also wording getting better since he started posting on here.

 

Gio in Denver

 

"I do not love the bright sword for it's sharpness, nor the arrow for it's swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend."