For anyone who noticed.

[bigvalboy]

Girl-- as if. Good luck in life.

 

Well there's your answer. Nice and professional.

[manderville]

Girl-- as if. Good luck in life.

I don't know either escort, but I have to say that I am a bit shocked that everyone is coming down hard on Hunter, when a response like this comes through.

Seems to me to say a lot MORE about BK than HL.

[Rudynate]

I don't know either escort, but I have to say that I am a bit shocked that everyone is coming down hard on Hunter, when a response like this comes through.

Seems to me to say a lot MORE about BK than HL.

 

Actually, it was a little bold, but not a bad idea. He's tried to collect the money owed to him and Brian appears to be blowing him off. Now that it's general knowledge among forum members, Brian may value his reputation badly enough to pay up.

[MrMattBig]

Hey Brian, when can I get that $200 you borrowed from me in New Orleans when you had your iphone robbed off you. I've tried texting you and messaging you for two weeks and you haven't responded back to me but I see your fourm posts, your rentmen ad movement and last log ins. My messages are going through and you have the read function on and you read my texts.

 

 

For those who have garnered distaste for Hunter's reply, allow me to share some insight on the situation. I met Hunter in New Orleans for Southern Decadence on a suggestion from him and to hang out and share hotel accommodations. It was the second day during our stay that Brian called Hunter frantic saying that he got robbed of his wallet and phone. There are other questioning circumstances that were told to Hunter from Brian, but I will choose not to disclose them. Brian then asked Hunter for $200 to overnight his phone so he would not lose out on scheduled appointments and he would pay him back the next day, which was Friday. Hunter lent Brian the $200, and Friday came and Brian responded by saying he would pay him back Sunday. Sunday came and went and Brian was M.I.A. Now this has been almost two weeks since, and to my knowledge Brian has not so much as responded to Hunter. By definition, this is a case of take the money and vanish. Now, it is true, when lending someone money, especially for the first time, you can count it as good as gone. The difference here is integrity and accountability. It isn't about the $200, or even money in general. This is about Brian making a promise and breaking it and then ignoring Hunter. Hunter then saw Brian active here, so he put the issue public so that Brian could no longer dodge his messages on the matter. All other forms of contact had failed. Do any of us really think Hunter wanted his business out in the air as well? It was the last hand to be played. On either side of the fence of this hobby and profession, with so much money changing hands, would the majority of us be anything less than professional? Brian should have had the professional courtesy to be up front with Hunter if other arrangements needed to be made. With that being said, I hope Brian and Hunter are able to restore communication going forward to find a resolution to this matter. When promises are broken it sucks for the party they are made to, but life lessons are priceless. Let's all conduct ourselves with integrity and professionalism.

[MiamiLooker]

This is about Brian making a promise and breaking it and then ignoring Hunter.

There may be a very good reason why Brian hasn’t repaid the loan, but there is absolutely no good reason why he's cut off communication with Hunter.

[+ Truereview]

For those who have garnered distaste for Hunter's reply, allow me to share some insight on the situation. I met Hunter in New Orleans for Southern Decadence on a suggestion from him and to hang out and share hotel accommodations. It was the second day during our stay that Brian called Hunter frantic saying that he got robbed of his wallet and phone. There are other questioning circumstances that were told to Hunter from Brian, but I will choose not to disclose them. Brian then asked Hunter for $200 to overnight his phone so he would not lose out on scheduled appointments and he would pay him back the next day, which was Friday. Hunter lent Brian the $200, and Friday came and Brian responded by saying he would pay him back Sunday. Sunday came and went and Brian was M.I.A. Now this has been almost two weeks since, and to my knowledge Brian has not so much as responded to Hunter. By definition, this is a case of take the money and vanish. Now, it is true, when lending someone money, especially for the first time, you can count it as good as gone. The difference here is integrity and accountability. It isn't about the $200, or even money in general. This is about Brian making a promise and breaking it and then ignoring Hunter. Hunter then saw Brian active here, so he put the issue public so that Brian could no longer dodge his messages on the matter. All other forms of contact had failed. Do any of us really think Hunter wanted his business out in the air as well? It was the last hand to be played. On either side of the fence of this hobby and profession, with so much money changing hands, would the majority of us be anything less than professional? Brian should have had the professional courtesy to be up front with Hunter if other arrangements needed to be made. With that being said, I hope Brian and Hunter are able to restore communication going forward to find a resolution to this matter. When promises are broken it sucks for the party they are made to, but life lessons are priceless. Let's all conduct ourselves with integrity and professionalism.

I really like Hunter, and I like Brian ( despite the fact that bad luck & acts of heroism seem to inexplicably fall on his lap regularly). Personally, I think Hunter has gone about pointing out Brian's infraction incorrectly. He posted the same message not just on this thread but also on other threads that were created by Brian. That to me is the equivalent of a business owner posting shame flyers publicly about another business. One post I could have understood, but several is just bad form, looks catty, and doesn't help Hunter's or Brian's brand. Whether you like it or not, some clients watch escorts' every post in here and may use it as data to make hiring decisions. I know, bc I did that for 10 years as a guest. Airing out dirty laundry in the forum is short term relief but it will always come back to bite the escort in the long run, sometime they won't even know it. This forum acts as a social space for clients, but for escorts, it is more of a marketing space. I wish it was different, but it doesnt play out that way. Why do you think so many escorts join, post madly and then fade away? Bc they can't be their full selves here (the good, the bad, and the ugly). I do think the are some very savvy escorts who have managed to stick around for a while, they participate often, and they keep their reputation intact. They do this well bc they are very measured on their posts. They don't have public meltdowns, get into fights, post drunk, and rarely stumble.

 

I do hope these two guys can resolve their issue and get past this. And I do agree with @saminseattle that we do have a double standard for escorts here. That's no news...the question is how do we fix it or do we even want to?

[MiamiLooker]

 

 

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[+ FreshFluff]

I assume there's been a misunderstanding here, as Hunter himself said, Brian seems like a good guy. I can completely understand Hunter's frustration and his decision to resort to this forum in an effort to collect.

 

But from a cold, impersonal marketing perspective, I think TrueReview is absolutely right. It may be unfair, but continuing this effort could cost Hunter considerably more than $200 in lost revenues.

[bigvalboy]

I really like Hunter, and I like Brian ( despite the fact that bad luck & acts of heroism seem to inexplicably fall on his lap regularly). Personally, I think Hunter has gone about pointing out Brian's infraction incorrectly. He posted the same message not just on this thread but also on other threads that were created by Brian. That to me is the equivalent of a business owner posting shame flyers publicly about another business. One post I could have understood, but several is just bad form, looks catty, and doesn't help Hunter's or Brian's brand. Whether you like it or not, some clients watch escorts' every post in here and may use it as data to make hiring decisions. I know, bc I did that for 10 years as a guest. Airing out dirty laundry in the forum is short term relief but it will always come back to bite the escort in the long run, sometime they won't even know it. This forum acts as a social space for clients, but for escorts, it is more of a marketing space. I wish it was different, but it doesnt play out that way. Why do you think so many escorts join, post madly and then fade away? Bc they can't be their full selves here (the good, the bad, and the ugly). I do think the are some very savvy escorts who have managed to stick around for a while, they participate often, and they keep their reputation intact. They do this well bc they are very measured on their posts. They don't have public meltdowns, get into fights, post drunk, and rarely stumble.

 

I do hope these two guys can resolve their issue and get past this. And I do agree with @saminseattle that we do have a double standard for escorts here. That's no news...the question is how do we fix it or do we even want to?

 

There's only dirty laundry flying around because Brian failed to repay a debt. Period. Not once, but twice. The simple solution? Well that's obvious. As Miami points out, there is not good reason for Brian's lack of communication. There is no shame in being in debt, and there is no shame in being unable to repay those debts in a timely manner, but there is shame in refusing to pay those debts.

 

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Brian Kevin Viscount

Girl-- as if. Good luck in life.

[manderville]

Amazing that this would hurt HL when BK refused to pay and made a very disrespectful comment back to him. One would think this would hurt BK's image more. . .

[Brian Kevin]

Let's put the WHOLE FUCKING thing out there you want that? Y'all wanna know what really happened? Come on hunter man the fuck up grab your balls & cock. Let's go back to Atlanta then NYC then New Orleans-- tell me why? When I fall on my sword you'll fall on yours as well. Karmas a bitch and sO can I be when you break my heart , why were you even in New Orleans ? Tell everyone about Atlanta and especially NYC.

 

Mattbig feel to ask Hunt why on a 1 on 1 basis, maybe he'll tell you truth. I don't care what anyone thinks of this shituation it has NOTHING to do with my career as an escort. There has been numerous accounts of disrespect from Hunter(clients who have been told about this before hand, I told you). I vouched for hunter until recently. I genuinely tried to over look everything but you kept stepping on my toes, you kept rubbing it in my face. Hunter, so how does a dose of your own medicine feel? Judge away if you want-- but I will not.

 

When you tried to steal someone I loved from me while I was fucking taking a piss in your hotel room. Fuck off and fuck you. Your elbatorate story is cute but nothing to the nights I spent crying after I kicked the man I loved out of my life BECAUSE YOU COULDNT KEEP YOUR dick and paws TO YOURSELF. So yes hunter, You tried to fuck my man, so now you feel fucked over that I

doned you and cut you out my life? Tell them about Atlanta and New orelans as well. Come on hunter I'll wait.

[Brian Kevin]

I like Brian ( despite the fact that bad luck & acts of heroism seem to inexplicably fall on his lap regularly).

 

Ouch, alright well that happened. I respect your opionion.

 

Thanks for the positive and not just beating me with negatives. This is another terribly unforante situation. We will all survive and there's no long term damage done. I thank Hunter for helping me see the man I loved was trying to cheat. I just wish he told me personally instead of going behind my back like he did.

[+ Truereview]

Ouch, alright well that happened. I respect your opionion.

 

Thanks for the positive and not just beating me with negatives. This is another terribly unforante situation. We will all survive and there's no long term damage done. I thank Hunter for helping me see the man I loved was trying to cheat. I just wish he told me personally instead of going behind my back like he did.

BK, I respect you too. I'm just being real with you on how I see it, and sometimes if you allow perception to run amuck, it becomes reality - particularly in social media.

 

Now, about that money you owe. here is the thing: two wrongs don't make a right. Don't let this thread get out of control. Camps are being assembled and lines being drawn, and persecutors are salivating and lighting their torches - and you know that lynch mob has been successful in the past regardless of whether the guy is a good, bad, or emotionally disabled apple. The mob loves...lives for this kind of thread. Only you and @hunterlee have the power to stop this like adults and gentlemen. This forum is bitchy and fickle (so nice for me to gaze upon this mirror), but the forum is also forgiving when you admit your faults and try to do the right thing. My sincere advice: End it, pronto...you know how.

[+ ArVaGuy]

BK, I respect you too. I'm just being real with you on how I see it, and sometimes if you allow perception to run amuck, it becomes reality - particularly in social media.

 

Now, about that money you owe. here is the thing: two wrongs don't make a right. Don't let this thread get out of control. Camps are being assembled and lines being drawn, and persecutors are salivating and lighting their torches - and you know that lynch mob has been successful in the past regardless of whether the guy is a good, bad, or emotionally disabled apple. The mob loves...lives for this kind of thread. Only you and @hunterlee have the power to stop this like adults and gentlemen. This forum is bitchy and fickle (so nice for me to gaze upon this mirror), but the forum is also forgiving when you admit your faults and try to do the right thing. My sincere advice: End it, pronto...you know how.

 

An excellent assessment of the situation and the behavior of this forum in these instances. I'm only casually following this matter and readily observe that battle lines have been drawn and the respective partisan camps are forming ready to engage.

 

Over the years this message board has witnessed numerous personal, private, petty disputes between escorts spillover and become public. In each and every instance the situation plays out exactly the same as this one. In the end neither individual does himself any good and ultimately ruins both reputations amongst the members of this community.

 

The issue between Brian and Hunter appears to involve more than a debt that is owed and must be repaid. I really don't care about the circumstances nor the underlying causes. This dispute is akin to a schoolyard fight that gets out of hand.

 

It is incumbent upon both parties to behave in a mature and responsible manner to settle this matter between them privately. In essence, grow up boys and learn to resolve your petty problems like grown adults.

[Moondance]

The issue ... appears to involve more than a debt that is owed and must be repaid. I really don't care about the circumstances nor the underlying causes. This dispute is akin to a schoolyard fight that gets out of hand...

 

Amen.

 

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[rvwnsd]

BK, I respect you too. I'm just being real with you on how I see it, and sometimes if you allow perception to run amuck, it becomes reality - particularly in social media.

 

Now, about that money you owe. here is the thing: two wrongs don't make a right. Don't let this thread get out of control. Camps are being assembled and lines being drawn, and persecutors are salivating and lighting their torches - and you know that lynch mob has been successful in the past regardless of whether the guy is a good, bad, or emotionally disabled apple. The mob loves...lives for this kind of thread. Only you and @hunterlee have the power to stop this like adults and gentlemen. This forum is bitchy and fickle (so nice for me to gaze upon this mirror), but the forum is also forgiving when you admit your faults and try to do the right thing. My sincere advice: End it, pronto...you know how.

This is a great observation, @Truereview , especially the part where you said

 

...the forum is also forgiving when you admit your faults and try to do the right thing. My sincere advice: End it, pronto...you know how.

 

I'd like to add the words "sincerely" and "follow through" to that first sentence. In other words, the forum is also forgiving when you sincerely admit your faults, try to do the right thing, and follow through.

 

Not surprisingly, that applies to the population in general. Funny how this forum is a little slice of life.

[Kippy]

Brian: Congrats on finding love in the fast paced escort scene-- most do not. Sorry it did not seem to work out for what you indicate are sad reasons. Return Hunter's $200 cash and send along a $100.00 Target gift card to ease the strain, ill will and reverse the negative vibe. New beginnings are always possible and the clearer we can make things the better they play out.

 

Peace,

 

Kipp

 

P.S. Still waiting for your trip to Phoenix

[hunterlee]

Being the bigger person isn't always about being silent. Courage to fight for what is righteous and just is what.

 

1. You are being so dramatic and ridiculous with the fluffy long winded responses lol .

 

2. Atlanta we just had dinner dude lol.

 

3. New York City I hurt my leg and you bought over medication (nice guy). You brought over a "friend" and your friend seemed genuinely nice and said he wanted to keep in touch. I gave him my number. If he really wanted to "cheat" he would have not said anything and just searched me for my number. We spoke about this before and I apologized if it seemed like I was trying to steal him away.

 

4. I did not touch your "man" or have sexual or emotional intentions with him. You told me you kicked him to the crub bc he was doing certain activities for certain items and sneaking out while he was traveling with you on the road.

 

5. Stop being lame and blaming other people. I think you know the real reasons why it didn't workout and just want to be over dramatic lol

 

6. New Orleans. You offered to share your room, I agreed. The last two weeks before the trip you were being flakey and unreliable. Didnt send me the hotel reservation, didn't text me until a few days before the event. It felt too unstable, I got my own hotel room and found someone else to room. You called me upset about the last minute change and that you could have gotten a "bomb ass king". Ok. You told me the rate for a king and two queen were the same price and that you had already booked a two queen before I agreed to go.

 

Brian, plain and simple without fluff. I just want my money, you told me you gotten robbed and I put aside the dramatic bs you give and loaned it to you bc I knew you needed a phone for work. Stop being lame and return the money.

 

Unless you really didn't get robbed and just wanted to get back at me for a reason you justified.

 

If this is the case this makes me question your other stories and events in your life.

 

Hunter

[hunterlee]

But from a cold, impersonal marketing perspective, I think TrueReview is absolutely right. It may be unfair, but continuing this effort could cost Hunter considerably more than $200 in lost revenues.

 

I agree 100%. However I still have some principles left, I will not sell myself out to break these principles and for what I believe in.

 

This goes beyond the $200. It's about integrity, principles and honesty about one"s character.

 

Call me a square but I still believe in doing what is right and values that need to be upheld.

[+ Gar1eth]

Okey dokey now. It seems to me that it's time for this thread to be locked. If Daddy or one of the administrators doesn't do it 'physically,' then IMHO the escorts involved as well us all of us interested bystanders should consider the thread locked. Nothing further is going to be accomplished by either those who take Hunter's side, Brian's side, those liking neither side, or those taking both sides except maybe some more hurt feelings.

 

Gman

[gallahadesquire]

Shall we order pizza? Or is it cheesecake?

 

 

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[bigvalboy]

Shall we order pizza? Or is it cheesecake?

 

 

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"I vote for cheesecake"

[jjkrkwood]

Seems to me mature individuals wouldnt need pizza or cheesecake to handle this situation. A mature person who's grown weary of the thread or the situation would simply choose to pass it over. Without participation, the thread would die a natural death, but at least it allows the participants to still have their say.

 

Its often been said that the reason you all like Daddy's site is because it offers you a place to get information, share information ,VENT and get support. Yet often it seems when YOU decide you've had enough venting , you want it OVER.... That kills any comraderie here, is UNsupportive and downright selfish. Whether you have taken a side or not, both parties here are hurting and have aired their problem publicly looking for support. Maybe there were also ulterior motives, but thats none of anyones business. For you to "dismiss" them because YOU are uncomfortable with the subject or tone or continuity does not show the sense of "community" that you constantly boast about.

 

MY view on the situation: nothing ends a friendship quicker than money, but its more about TRUST. Once you've lost Trust, the friendship goes with it. I have lost many good, long term friendships over money, and we arent talking about $200, more like $200,000. YES it hurts, and is certainly a financial kick in the ass, but you aint gonna get it back, so learn your lesson and move on. Nothing else you can do if you want to keep your sanity...

 

But I would still LOVE a slice of Junior's cheesecake right now !

[+ Truereview]

And just like @jjkrkwood has his right to have his say, I do as well. And for crying outloud, I invoke the power of pizza!

 

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[jjkrkwood]

Just remember people, what goes around, comes around, and the time may come when people will have the same attitude to one of your posts, then how would you feel, when your thoughts, feelings and emotions are Devalued. ? Floating pizza is cute, but it isnt solving anyones problems but your own and its dismissive and rude. But if that's the person you are, so be it !