Couple of things...

[+ Eric Hassan]

So just a few things...I have been in the business for coming up on five years or so however my west coast tour is becomig a bit interesting as it seams clients have stopped looking at details like dates that your in a certain city,or getting upset you cant do incalls however the ad clearly states out calls only.. the haggling on rates I have come to understand to be a part of what can usually happen(obviously with in reason)...but just wondering if anyone else is kind of feeling bad having to reiterate the details losted on the ad,I feel kind of rude having to repoint out things like out call omly ect...what is the kindest way to reiterate these points?

 

It's annoying as fuck. But, you might do well to remember that while you know all of your details and you know how many times you've had to tell guys the same things over and over, but the new guy contacting you doesn't have that same experience. Yes, it would be nice if people read carefully, but they don't. It would be nice if people retained what they read, but they don't. Imagine a waiter working the dinner shift. He knows the specials for the evening. He knows they're written on the "specials board" where anyone can read. He sees patrons coming in and checking the board, apparently reading it. He greets the patrons and reviews the specials. Then, when he comes back to take the order, one of the patrons asks about the specials again. Imagine how this waiter might feel - probably similar to how you feel when you get questions from clients - and imagine what would happen if he got annoyed in front of the patron. It's frustrating and annoying, but for this patron, the dinner specials are brand new to him and he's expressing an interest - his experience (and by experience I mean what he chooses to order, how he spends his money, whether or not he enjoys himself, whether or not he wants to come back) will depend on the waiter being professional and addressing the needs of the patron, not his personal annoyance.

[mike carey]

Well put, Eric, no matter what the escort says or does, not every client will take it on board. I would say treat it as a bonus if the client takes it all in and just accept it when they don't. Of course if you have plenty of clients and only a few don't get it, blow them off. Not that you would do that, Eric!

[LADoug1]

Some clients think that EVERYTHING is negotiable. It is a sign of disrespect when you are asked to repeat what is clearly stated in the ad. I agree that bulleting points will make an ad clearer. But I also think that it may be a red flag when you have to repeat everything listed in the ad. I would approach these clients with caution. Flake alert.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Some clients think that EVERYTHING is negotiable. It is a sign of disrespect when you are asked to repeat what is clearly stated in the ad. I agree that bulleting points will make an ad clearer. But I also think that it may be a red flag when you have to repeat things. I would approach these clients with caution. Flake alert.

 

I do not think it is an act of disrespect, but rather coming from experience. Often what is stated in add as not negotiable actually is. I understand this annoys those escorts who do mean I it, but often that is just not the case. So, I am sorry but I will continue asking my questions.

[jjkrkwood]

I do not think it is an act of disrespect, but rather coming from experience. Often what is stated in add as not negotiable actually is. I understand this annoys those escorts who do mean I it, but often that is just not the case. So, I am sorry but I will continue asking my questions.

 

latbear, I tend to be on your side with this. I think that being the "paying" customer gives you certain rights. You have a right to ask questions about what you would be getting for your fee, even if certain things are stated. As long as this is done in a respectful and cordial way, I cant see why ANY professional escort would have a problem with it. An escort saying "I don't have time to deal with that shit, just read the ad" is bullshit and don't fly with me. You want my business, make the time ! BUT, once the escort answers you, that should be the end of it...

[LADoug1]

I do not think it is an act of disrespect, but rather coming from experience. Often what is stated in add as not negotiable actually is. I understand this annoys those escorts who do mean I it, but often that is just not the case. So, I am sorry but I will continue asking my questions.

My post was not in any way directed at you. I like your posts.

[+ José Soplanucas]

My post was not in any way directed at you. I like your posts.

I did not take it personally, Doug. You were making a valid point and I responded. And thank you for the compliment.

[+ sync]

So just a few things...I have been in the business for coming up on five years or so however my west coast tour is becomig a bit interesting as it seams clients have stopped looking at details like dates that your in a certain city,or getting upset you cant do incalls however the ad clearly states out calls only.. the haggling on rates I have come to understand to be a part of what can usually happen(obviously with in reason)...but just wondering if anyone else is kind of feeling bad having to reiterate the details losted on the ad,I feel kind of rude having to repoint out things like out call omly ect...what is the kindest way to reiterate these points?

 

Your frustration with obvious questions is certainly understandable. In client defense I offer the possibility that in many cases perhaps the potential clients are first-timers or relative newbies who are like myself. When I first began hiring, I was a bundle of nerves. When the escort answered the telephone, I was either at a loss for words or babbling, which resulted in me asking questions that were clearly stated in the advertising. Thankfully, that phase quickly passed, but it was a client learning curve for me. Just putting it out there.

[Kuriousity]

Never feel bad for schooling halfwits....I don't. I get a thrill schooling people waiting to evolve a thumb....

[+ quoththeraven]

Never feel bad for schooling halfwits....I don't. I get a thrill schooling people waiting to evolve a thumb....

 

But it might not be the most effective customer service technique. What you suggest is my natural impulse too, but I find less direct methods are more effective in most instances. Welcome back, btw; I'd wondered what had happened to you.

 

Zach, put up with it with as much patience as you can muster until or unless you sense you're deliberately being jerked around. Give the people who ask about things they should have picked up on the benefit of the doubt at first. If you can do it in a matter of fact way, keep referring to your ad. But once they start giving you a hard time about information in your ad, feel free to blow them off. They're either not legtimate customers or they're jerks who wouldn't be any fun to work with anyway.

[mike carey]

Maybe I have a vivid imagination or I over-simplify things, but to me your ads are crystal clear @Kurtis Wolfe, as are the groundrules for meeting you. To a couple of the points you made, a cursory reading of just this site would throw up more than enough evidence that you are indeed real, and your advertising of where you are is pretty clear. You are obviously treating this in a seriously business-like manner, so for your advertising to be clear is hardly a surprise. Then again maybe I'm blind to ambiguity.

[bigvalboy]

http://www.picgifs.com/reaction-gifs/reaction-gifs/confused/confused048.gif

Sorry, but I'm confused , cause I don't

understand all the attitude from the

escorts...I thought....well... never mind

what I thought. I'll just stick to my own

way of doing things and leave the rest

of y'all to your own way of talking to

clients...Maybe Joey/Jamal had it right

all along...who knew. Good luck

[AdamSmith]

So now, i'll just be Cunt-mini, and maybe people will just Throw pebbles.....?

 

Sorry, but I'm confused , cause I don't

understand all the attitude from the

escorts...I thought....well... never mind

what I thought. I'll just stick to my own

way of doing things and leave the rest

of y'all to your own way of talking to

clients...Maybe Joey/Jamal had it right

all along...who knew. Good luck

To prevent their camels from becoming pregnant during long marches on desert caravans, Bedouins would stuff pebbles up the camels' hoo-hahs.

 

http://en.muvs.org/topic/camel-contraception/

[bigvalboy]

To prevent their camels from becoming pregnant during long marches on desert caravans, Bedouins would stuff pebbles up the camels' hoo-hahs.

 

http://en.muvs.org/topic/camel-contraception/

[AdamSmith]

See how it works?

http://en.muvs.org/media/image/topic/kamel_00_ma_verhuetung.jpg?1360183222

[+ Keith30309]

To prevent their camels from becoming pregnant during long marches on desert caravans, Bedouins would stuff pebbles up the camels' hoo-hahs.

 

http://en.muvs.org/topic/camel-contraception/

 

... and the female camels who expelled diamonds, created by tremendous heat and tight pressure, were sent to the Kings palace for special services.

[+ José Soplanucas]

http://www.picgifs.com/reaction-gifs/reaction-gifs/confused/confused048.gif

Sorry, but I'm confused , cause I don't

understand all the attitude from the

escorts...I thought....well... never mind

what I thought. I'll just stick to my own

way of doing things and leave the rest

of y'all to your own way of talking to

clients...Maybe Joey/Jamal had it right

all along...who knew. Good luck

I feel you bvb. They are not right. They are in the service industry, where the client is always right. Unfortunately we tend to enable and spoil them in this forum.

[jjkrkwood]

I feel you bvb. They are not right. They are in the service industry, where the client is always right. Unfortunately we tend to enable and spoil them in this forum.

 

 

Yes, all the gushing and wanton flirtation with the escorts and competition for their attention here is......

 

[LADoug1]

Never feel bad for schooling halfwits....I don't. I get a thrill schooling people waiting to evolve a thumb....

I wouldn't refer to most new/awkward clients "halfwits". Just nervous newbies.

[AdamSmith]

Yes, all the gushing and wanton flirtation with the escorts and competition for their attention here is......

My wingman handles that.

[+ quoththeraven]

I feel you bvb. They are not right. They are in the service industry, where the client is always right. Unfortunately we tend to enable and spoil them in this forum.

 

That's close to being true in retail. But with the highly personal nature of the services, it's not as true here.

 

Stores only need to deal with vandals and shoplifters. Window shoppers are not a problem whether they ever buy or not.

 

That isn't to say that it doesn't go both ways. Both clients and escorts can behave badly and be abusive. But to say escorts should accept whatever a customer or potential customer throws their way because it's a service industry is wrong.

 

I've seen as much or more abuse of escorts in the forum as enabling or spoiling. I roll my eyes at the flirting and some of the more blatant praise, but I consider that far less serious than the ease with which escorts are raked over the coals. No wonder so many of them, including some who used to post more, have no or a limited presence here.

[jjkrkwood]

That's close to being true in retail. But with the highly personal nature of the services, it's not as true here.

 

Stores only need to deal with vandals and shoplifters. Window shoppers are not a problem whether they ever buy or not.

 

That isn't to say that it doesn't go both ways. Both clients and escorts can behave badly and be abusive. But to say escorts should accept whatever a customer or potential customer throws their way because it's a service industry is wrong.

 

I've seen as much or more abuse of escorts in the forum as enabling or spoiling. I roll my eyes at the flirting and some of the more blatant praise, but I consider that far less serious than the ease with which escorts are raked over the coals. No wonder so many of them, including some who used to post more, have no or a limited presence here.

 

QTR, I think that in any service industry, individuals are left open to praise AND criticism. As far as escorts are concerned, this site is dedicated to that topic so it magnifies the comments even more. I have no problem with negative comments per se, as long are they are truthful and representative of a real situation that occurred. They could be enlightening and useful to potential clients . All this other insult shit and image attacking is ridiculous and an assault of member senses. If you have a beef with an escort, take it private if you are able. That's your personal shit and we shouldn't have to wallow in it...

[+ José Soplanucas]

That's close to being true in retail. But with the highly personal nature of the services, it's not as true here.

 

Stores only need to deal with vandals and shoplifters. Window shoppers are not a problem whether they ever buy or not.

 

That isn't to say that it doesn't go both ways. Both clients and escorts can behave badly and be abusive. But to say escorts should accept whatever a customer or potential customer throws their way because it's a service industry is wrong.

 

I've seen as much or more abuse of escorts in the forum as enabling or spoiling. I roll my eyes at the flirting and some of the more blatant praise, but I consider that far less serious than the ease with which escorts are raked over the coals. No wonder so many of them, including some who used to post more, have no or a limited presence here.

QTR, we are not talking about abusive behavior here. Escorts are whining because the clients do not read their ad and ask too many questions. Give me a break.

[bigvalboy]

QTR, we are not talking about abusive behavior here. Escorts are whining because the clients do not read their ad and ask too many questions. Give me a break.

 

+1

If I ever called an escort, and asked a simple question about something that was already in his ad, but I had somehow missed, or misunderstood, and he gave me attitude....Just because he had to re-explain it...I mean seriously?

 

He would GET Thank you, I don't think we are a match...AND THEN

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrUmBjlHJyM

[MiamiLooker]

I've seen as much or more abuse of escorts in the forum as enabling or spoiling.

What examples from the forum do you consider abuse of escorts?