Are we doomed? Global warming????

[jackjackjack]

I don't want this to be a political topic. So let's see. Everyone talks about global warming. . That mankind is doomed if something isn't done and since man himself is the cause, we need to change our ways. So instead of saying 'we' how about saying 'you'. What do YOU do in your everyday life that contributes to global warming and how can you reduce your carbon footprint?

[+ nycman]

We are doomed because of massive over population.

 

If we fail to control the population....we are doomed.

 

It's as simple as that....but no one wants to address the problem.

 

It's not a popular answer...big business hates it...religious institutions hate it....governments hate it....individuals hate it.

 

Unfortunately our perceived "prosperity" is tied to and dependant on a growing population.

 

It's not the SIZE of my carbon footprint that's the problem....it's that there are 7 BILLION footprints!

 

In summary....it's the POPULATION STUPID!

[Kenny]

I threw away all of my carbon paper.

[gallahadesquire]

I drive a hybrid

[Kuriousity]

Eh.....this could get a bit political. You may want to consider relocating it. Good rule of thumb--If the subject sideswipes public policy, then you can bet some bitches here will get in a froth. Put it in the Politics Board & let people rip each other new asses.....The Lounge is not exactly the proper place for ass-ripping.

[+ purplekow]

I recycle almost everything I can. I reuse things even aluminum foil and styrofoam cups. I try to avoid things such as styrofoam but if i come in contact with it, I reuse.

Reuse. Recycle. Repurpose. Reduce the population. I haven't had any children.

[+ sync]

About three years ago I saw a television interview in which the subject was a young climatologist. I remember him being early thirties, slender, Caucasian with a full beard and mustash. He was riveting with his conclusion that we have already dragged our feet past the point of no-return and there is nothing that can be done to save the climate or reverse the damage. What is off-putting to me is that I have not seen nor heard anything more from/about him since, which seems odd for such a controversial statement from a climate-monitoring professional. My paranoia has me thinking that he may possibly have been gagged.

[+ purplekow]

My guess, global epidemic will get population back to controllable levels. Zika won't do it. SARS did not do it. AIDs did not do it. Ebola did not do it. There will be one that will though. Airborne with long life span outside host. Long period of incubation. Then quickly virulent with high mortality. Long period of incubation allows for travel out of local areas. Airborne limits effective control by ordinary means and the long life span just worsens that. Short course of illness once symptoms stop, prevents effective treatment once symptoms start. Viruses will eventually get it right.

[seaboy4hire]

Crony capitalism is a big hurdle, think big coal and oil.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[seaboy4hire]

My guess, global epidemic will get population back to controllable levels. Zika won't do it. SARS did not do it. AIDs did not do it. Ebola did not do it. There will be one that will though. Airborne with long life span outside host. Long period of incubation. Then quickly virulent with high mortality. Long period of incubation allows for travel out of local areas. Airborne limits effective control by ordinary means and the long life span just worsens that. Short course of illness once symptoms stop, prevents effective treatment once symptoms start. Viruses will eventually get it right.

 

Don't forget many of our antibiotics are not working anymore as well.

 

Hugs,

Greg

[bigvalboy]

I don't want this to be a political topic. So let's see. Everyone talks about global warming. . That mankind is doomed if something isn't done and since man himself is the cause, we need to change our ways. So instead of saying 'we' how about saying 'you'. What do YOU do in your everyday life that contributes to global warming and how can you reduce your carbon footprint?

 

Interesting Jack3...I'm at the end of a year long project to reduce the carbon foot print at my condo complex. A few years ago I purchased a condo, and immediately noticed that the entire complex was being run inefficiently. There was a tremendous waste of water, power and resources, and no one seemed to care. So I got myself elected as president of the board and then set out to completely revamp how the property ran. I brought in recycling bins, installed more drought resistant landscaping, and I made dozen of changes to cut down on electric an water usage, replacing bulbs, repairing leaks, replacing electrical and water sensors with manual timers. To date the water bills have dropped 38% and electrical usage is down 24%, and every year, there is a mandatory inspection for water leaks in all the units. In my personal unit, I have installed all new windows and doors to the new double pane, high impact energy efficient ones, blew new insulation in the attic, which reduced my cooling bill nearly 20%. And I find myself driving less and walking more.

 

I think people are reluctant to make changes because it's expensive, and monitoring water and electrical usage can be tedious, but the pay off in the long run is worth every penny. Most frightening to me, is the idea that water might be our most valuable commodity.

[Kenny]

Eh.....this could get a bit political. You may want to consider relocating it. Good rule of thumb--If the subject sideswipes public policy, then you can bet some bitches here will get in a froth. Put it in the Politics Board & let people rip each other new asses.....The Lounge is not exactly the proper place for ass-ripping.

Oh dear. Men sucking cocks is political. Do we need to relocate "Ask an Escort" to the politics board? And the Deli!?

[jackjackjack]

Hey, thanks for the responses but what I was looking for, is not that you recycle, or save water or electricity, etc. but how do you add to global warming everyday of your life. Let's see. I wake up in the morning, 1. plug the coffee in + 2. turn on lights + 3. open the frig +4. log on to my tablet + 5.run water + 6. use hair dryer +7. maybe do laundry +....etc. Almost every aspect of my life adds to global warming. What I'm asking is if you want, list how you contribute to global warming. We're not talking about a billion people, I'm talking about you and me.....trying to look inward and see how each of us add to what some call global warming.

Anyway, I guess my brain is still scrambled

[Kenny]

About three years ago I saw a television interview in which the subject was a young climatologist. I remember him being early thirties, slender, Caucasian with a full beard and mustash. He was riveting with his conclusion that we have already dragged our feet past the point of no-return and there is nothing that can be done to save the climate or reverse the damage. What is off-putting to me is that I have not seen nor heard anything more from/about him since, which seems odd for such a controversial statement from a climate-monitoring professional. My paranoia has me thinking that he may possibly have been gagged.

Maybe he was a fake and got busted as such. "It's too late to do anything, so let's not."

[Jock123]

Donald Trump is about to be our next President(Mark my words........) So Yes we are VERY Doomed.

[bigvalboy]

Hey, thanks for the responses but what I was looking for, is not that you recycle, or save water or electricity, etc. but how do you add to global warming everyday of your life. Let's see. I wake up in the morning, 1. plug the coffee in + 2. turn on lights + 3. open the frig +4. log on to my tablet + 5.run water + 6. use hair dryer +7. maybe do laundry +....etc. Almost every aspect of my life adds to global warming. What I'm asking is if you want, list how you contribute to global warming. We're not talking about a billion people, I'm talking about you and me.....trying to look inward and see how each of us add to what some call global warming.

Anyway, I guess my brain is still scrambled

 

Well I was responding to the last part of your question..."and how can you reduce your carbon footprint?" I think almost everything we do daily contributes to our Carbon foot print, but in my mind, it's how we reduce the carbon foot print that is important...no?

 

BTW...Happy Birthday!!

[Kenny]

Hey, thanks for the responses but what I was looking for, is not that you recycle, or save water or electricity, etc. but how do you add to global warming everyday of your life. Let's see. I wake up in the morning, 1. plug the coffee in + 2. turn on lights + 3. open the frig +4. log on to my tablet + 5.run water + 6. use hair dryer +7. maybe do laundry +....etc. Almost every aspect of my life adds to global warming. What I'm asking is if you want, list how you contribute to global warming. We're not talking about a billion people, I'm talking about you and me.....trying to look inward and see how each of us add to what some call global warming.

Anyway, I guess my brain is still scrambled

I do what I believe is the most important thing one can do: I vote. In every election, every time. And I take a candidate's climate change positions into account. Big-time.

 

"...while we humans are certainly responsible for climate change on some level, just a few of us – particularly in industry and government – are a lot more responsible than the rest of us. Climate change is caused by industrial activities. And those activities are incentivized by government policy, which industry goes out of its way to influence."

 

That's not me talking. That's the Union of Concerned Scientists. http://blog.ucsusa.org/aaron-huertas/dear-humans-industry-is-causing-global-warming-not-your-activities-697

 

The biggest reason that virtually all the Republican presidential candidates are climate-change deniers is because of their anti-strong-government, pro-business philosophy. The biggest reason that all the Democratic presidential candidates accept the climate-change science is that if they don't, they know it's all over.

[Kenny]

Donald Trump is about to be our next President(Mark my words........) So Yes we are VERY Doomed.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

[Jock123]

Not. Gonna. Happen.

 

 

50 Bucks....It does. I cant say how I KNOW this(Without sounding Crazy)....but It will

 

 

[jackjackjack]

We are doomed because of massive over population.

 

If we fail to control the population....we are doomed.

 

It's as simple as that....but no one wants to address the problem.

 

It's not a popular answer...big business hates it...religious institutions hate it....governments hate it....individuals hate it.

 

Unfortunately our perceived "prosperity" is tied to and dependant on a growing population.

 

It's not the SIZE of my carbon footprint that's the problem....it's that there are 7 BILLION footprints!

 

In summary....it's the POPULATION STUPID!

 

I'm not sure it's population. Paul Ehrlich's 'Population Bomb' got it wrong.

[Kenny]

50 Bucks....It does. I cant say how I KNOW this(Without sounding Crazy)....but It will

 

 

You're on. (I would take this over to the Politics forum, but almost the only chance he has is if the economy tips over in the next 9 months.)

[AdamSmith]

As a hick chemical engineer manque, my instinct is it's too late. Being the chimpanzee- rather than bonobo-derived species we are, we may conceivably come up with some aggressive geoengineering ideas that succeed. Who knows how to predict that likelihood? If we do, we end up with a Blade Runner-like planet.

 

But actually I think we've already gone past the planetary carbon thresholds and are done for as a species.

[+ sync]

About three years ago I saw a television interview in which the subject was a young climatologist. I remember him being early thirties, slender, Caucasian with a full beard and mustash. He was riveting with his conclusion that we have already dragged our feet past the point of no-return and there is nothing that can be done to save the climate or reverse the damage. What is off-putting to me is that I have not seen nor heard anything more from/about him since, which seems odd for such a controversial statement from a climate-monitoring professional. My paranoia has me thinking that he may possibly have been gagged.

 

Maybe he was a fake and got busted as such. "It's too late to do anything, so let's not."

 

Donald Trump is about to be our next President(Mark my words........) So Yes we are VERY Doomed.

 

Not. Gonna. Happen.

 

Kenny, I hope you are right in both cases. I don't know which is the more horrific possibility.

[Rudynate]

I don't buy a lot of crap consumer goods. I don't do much air travel. As much as possible I avoid buying things with excessive packaging.

As a hick chemical engineer manque, my instinct is it's too late. Being the chimpanzee- rather than bonobo-derived species we are, we may conceivably come up with some aggressive geoengineering ideas that succeed. Who knows how to predict that likelihood? If we do, we end up with a Blade Runner-like planet.

 

But actually I think we've already gone past the planetary carbon thresholds and are done for as a species.

 

 

You should read "This Changes Everything" by Naomi Klein. She discusses the mammoth geoengineering projects pretty extensively. They're drawing a lot of interest -outlandish things like artificially increasing the density of the planetary cloud cover to reverse global warming, while continuing to fill the atmosphere with greenhouse gases from fossil fuels. It's nutty.

[Lookin]

Being the chimpanzee- rather than bonobo-derived species we are, we may conceivably come up with some aggressive geoengineering ideas that succeed. . .

 

But actually I think we've already gone past the planetary carbon thresholds and are done for as a species.

 

Then perhaps you’ll be as pleased as I was to learn that scientific thinking, like the rest of us, continues to evolve on this issue. I heard somewhere that, if bonobos had been more numerous and less reclusive, and had we studied them as carefully as we studied chimps, we may have picked them as our closest ancestors.

 

And this study suggests it’s a wash.

 

Throw in individual variation and the ‘nature - nurture’ dynamic and I bet a case could be made for at least a few of us being closer to bonobos than to chimps.

 

In fact, if I recall some of your earlier posts in the Escort Forum, you yourself are a proponent of bonobo-like social interactions.

 

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/bonobo-peeps-similar-to-human-infants-150804-670.jpg

 

And, in another boost for the bonobo theory, I also find myself significantly less warlike than the average chimp, and more interested in making friends than enemies.

 

 

Still, as you say, it may be too late for every last one of our species’ genes to endure, in which case it might make sense for some of us to start dating outside of our comfort zone. http://www.boytoy.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif

 

http://cdn.phys.org/newman/csz/news/800/2014/1-humansnotgui.jpg