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From time to time, when somebody I know complains about their lack of sex, or that they have become invisible to attractive young men, I ask them if they have ever considered hiring. Inevitably, they either recoil or give me sort of a patronizing look. I think hiring is the world's best-kept secret, but doing it and enjoying it requires mastery of an inner game that most people aren't up to.

 

As I said upthread, I would really like to know something about the inner game it takes to be a successful escort. I have a lot of respect for those who've mastered it.

 

Thanks, you explain it very eloquently. I agree with your point of view.

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I ask them if they have ever considered hiring.

Before I even thought of myself as gay I was deployed to Malaysia and there was a culture of hiring girls in bars. I recoiled (why was that not a hint to me?). Years later, and sexual identity better defined, I still didn't consider hiring but there was something to some of the rent boys, but not until a couple of them messaged me out of the blue did I think seriously about it, in the absence of much other action. I've met one of those a guys a few times and now I'm here chatting with the boys. So yes, why not hire?

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I think hiring is the world's best-kept secret, but doing it and enjoying it requires mastery of an inner game that most people aren't up to.

 

My inner game at the time I first hired was desperation and fear. It might still be.

 

Gman

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My inner game at the time I first hired was desperation and fear. It might still be.

 

Gman

 

There are different ways of relating to it all, depending on the story you tell yourself about it. The objective truth is that you sometimes pay for sex. Everything else is a story that you tell yourself about it. You may be telling yourself that you do it because you're old and ugly and you can't get laid and it's better than nothing but what I wouldn't give for a real relationship with a man who really cares about me. But there are much better stories you could tell yourself about it. For example, that you've taken control of your sex life rather than sitting at home alone, you have sex with the men you want, when you want, and you get to do the things with them that you want, etc. Is it such a bad thing to get what you want?

 

I am the first to admit that this is an easy attitude for me to take partly because I have a relationship of long standing and hiring is a recreation for me. And it may not be for others. But the principal still applies. It's your life, why can't you tell yourself a story about it that allows you to like it just as it is now?

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From time to time, when somebody I know complains about their lack of sex, or that they have become invisible to attractive young men, I ask them if they have ever considered hiring. Inevitably, they either recoil or give me sort of a patronizing look. I think hiring is the world's best-kept secret, but doing it and enjoying it requires mastery of an inner game that most people aren't up to.

 

As I said upthread, I would really like to know something about the inner game it takes to be a successful escort. I have a lot of respect for those who've mastered it.

I have a close friend of over forty years. We see each other maybe 3 or 4 times a year. One night at work I had a little down time. I sent him a text. He and another best friend from Chicago, know my ins and outs. One more than the other! The text ended by me asking if he were seeing anyone? He replied: "I hire men." I sent a text creating a profile. As if I were an escort. He shot back that he couldn't believe it. Both of us had LOL's . I was in the middle of hiring for the first time. Had become a member on the site, and many of you helped me through many, many questions.

Back to the topic...I asked my friend how escorts can do "it" with the majority of their clients being older with saggy butts, man boobs, and all the anatomical changes that go with with the aging process. He came back with, "They don't care!" There must be magical switch that an escort has, that allows him to do what he needs to do. Hopefully, I was able to help my escort flip switch a few times!!!

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As a very young man, I was a magnet for older men because I enjoyed talking with them, even though I wasn't sexually attracted to them. Until I learned how to say "no," I did quite a few sympathy fucks. For the most part I performed OK.

Occasionally, the guy was great sex, even though he wasn't my cup of tea physically and/or he was really nice, and I actually enjoyed him. Once in a while, I found someone repellant enough that I just couldn't do much with them. So maybe I have the escort gene.

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Later I discovered the European (read... Czech-Hungarian) porn market and some of the most memorable sex was had visiting Prague and Budapest where guys were much more reasonable for a few hires hire and were (mostly) agile and willing with older gentlemen. Now, Rudynate, these were minds that defied understanding (almost every one was straight or simply gay-for-pay, few called themselves bisexual, all seemed to have girl-friends, wife and children on the side) but were amazingly good sex machines with other men too. Whatever was in the water should be marketed.

 

 

That sounds like a lot of fun. I have had some great experiences with Greeks and Turks.

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Yes have had great and memorable experiences with Greek escorts (in London, Amsterdam and Paris), and Turks (one of the HOTTEST cruising pick-ups ever in the old Times Square area -- my first experience with what we call a cub -- but a VORACIOUS, hungry, power-bottom type). Damn! He was a student at Columbia who came down to 42nd street to get some action. Too bad it was before the time when everyone carried cell-phones. Never saw him again.

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I can understand why some porn stars don't escort. I've hired escorts for many years. IMHO, being a good, professional escort is a personal attribute not everyone has. Escorts often walk into situations not having the first clue about the client, other than any discussions of expectations prior to arranging the date. I know, even if I had an escort "look", I could not do this.

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I don't know if they do, but if they have the "stomach to do it" they should do it... The average porn shoot pays 800 to 1000 for new guys, SC, RB, and CF might pay 1.500 and pornstars with exclusivity would get 2.000 or 3.000. Colby Taylor was paid up to 5k by Falcon in the early 2000, a huge amount of money for porno even now a days.

 

A good escort just charging 300 for an outcall would make 9k in a month, with trips and overnights even more, some days he might see more than 1 client, some days no clients at all. I wouldn't turn down that kind of money, specially knowing very few guys can escort for a long time.

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Actors and models can be sensitive souls and the rejections from auditions, agents and casting directors can be hurtful, if not wounding. Doing porn to becoming an escort may be something of a refuge from this tough career. Have you seen "Klute"? In one scene Jane Fonda, who wants to be a model, overhears a casting director saying something cruel to an associate about Jane's appearance. Jane loses the modeling job and shortly thereafter calls her "john" to see if he has anything for her.

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I would imagine some porn stars, used to interacting with other physically attractive guys, might have a difficult time transitioning to sex with clients who will often be much older, perhaps overweight, etc.

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I would imagine some porn stars, used to interacting with other physically attractive guys, might have a difficult time transitioning to sex with clients who will often be much older, perhaps overweight, etc.

 

You would think so, but I asked a porn-actor escort about this and he told me that first, even if the clien was not sexy to him, the money was. Second, if he only had sex with guys as good looking as he is his sex life would decline (sounds like bragging but he really is beautiful) and third, he finds something attractive about every client and concentrates on it. The way he said this, I believe him.

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Fortunately I've been blessed with an autonomic response to nudity, the belief that escorting is naughty and forbidden and therefore incredibly exciting, and enough imagination to cast my client in the role of my boss, my neighbor whose wife is out of town, or that difficult professor who wants to talk privately with me in his office about my last assignment. With the door closed.

 

I would actually find porn to be very challenging, since it's not the typical dynamic under which I have sex. I'm fascinated by the industry and the players and would love to write something about it, but I'm not sure I could do it myself.

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From time to time, when somebody I know complains about their lack of sex, or that they have become invisible to attractive young men, I ask them if they have ever considered hiring. Inevitably, they either recoil or give me sort of a patronizing look. I think hiring is the world's best-kept secret, but doing it and enjoying it requires mastery of an inner game that most people aren't up to.

 

As I said upthread, I would really like to know something about the inner game it takes to be a successful escort. I have a lot of respect for those who've mastered it.

 

I was certainly among those who thought no matter how "desperate" I became for a hook-up, I would never deign to "stoop so low" and hire a whore (sorry for the language, but that's how I thought back then!) ever! Over time (eventually realizing how unfulfilling hook-ups with married men often tended to be) and reading reviews of guys like Jason Branch on sites such as HooBoy's, I finally came to the conclusion that escorts were not necessarily street punks just out for drug money and with the advent of RB and M4RN I finally got enough courage to hire Ares on a trip to New York. Now, you couldn't keep me from enjoying this hobby!!! :)

 

Truhart1 :cool:

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Even as a young 20-something, I was attracted to hiring as an erotic experience per se. I jumped into it nearly twenty years ago, when I responded to an classified ad, with no pic, in the BAR. The escort turned out to be a handsome young guy with an enormous dick who was very sweet. The sex was good, not great. But I left him feeling like I had gotten my money's worth and like I definitely wanted to do it again. It's so easy now with RB, M4RN, Daddy's and all the other escort web sites. Completely different world.

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Even as a young 20-something, I was attracted to hiring as an erotic experience per se. I jumped into it nearly twenty years ago, when I responded to an classified ad, with no pic, in the BAR. The escort turned out to be a handsome young guy with an enormous dick who was very sweet. The sex was good, not great. But I left him feeling like I had gotten my money's worth and like I definitely wanted to do it again. It's so easy now with RB, M4RN, Daddy's and all the other escort web sites. Completely different world.

 

I had no money and they weren't available... Thank God for the Navy!

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hmm I guess that explains why my dad told me he'd beat my ass black and blue if he ever caught me at the barracks. (Af brat, the base housing was close to the barracks overseas:P )

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Several really outstanding and highly successful escort have told me that there is something attractive about everybody. Even if the client is old or over weight etc. there is something attractive on which they can focus. Maybe the client has nice eyes, maybe he has nice ears, maybe he has a great personality. They have learned to seek out the attractive aspect of each client and focus on that - it makes sense and I find it admirable

At the very beginning of his porn career I was fortunate to get together and spend a great evening of sex and conversation with Josh Weston. Damn the man was great both across a dinner table and between the sheets. It was horrible to watch him slowly be eaten alive by the porn industry. I am convinced that escorting in the end is far healthier than porn.

A number of years ago when Mathew Rush, was at the height of his porn career, he became very indigent when an interviewer asked him if he escorted. He stated that he was an actor and would never sell his body -- such bull shit!!

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I recently used the services of escorts in London. Among the other girls there were porn stars too. Of course the cost of their services is much higher, but I think it's worth it. I'm going to try one of them during my next visit.:cool:

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I know Colby Keller. I worked with him while we shot scenes for Anteros Media. Very nice, quiet person. Super smart and creative. Also very pragmatic. He comes up with creative ways to escort without it really being escorting. I think he did a fundraiser that allowed people to pay to do scenes with him as he drove cross country? Something like that. Anyway, I think y'all should consider whether or not you really want your favorite porn stars to be escorts. To my mind you need three components to be a successful escort: A marketable look, an interesting personality, and an accommodating disposition. Just because someone is hot and friendly doesn't mean he's a good COMPANION. Many of the porn models I have met were definitely not people I would want to pay to spend time around. If someone in porn has not also started escorting, it probably means he lacks the disposition (e.g. motivation and/or desire). Would you really want to experience him just for appearance's sake?

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I know Colby Keller. I worked with him while we shot scenes for Anteros Media. Very nice, quiet person. Super smart and creative. Also very pragmatic. He comes up with creative ways to escort without it really being escorting. I think he did a fundraiser that allowed people to pay to do scenes with him as he drove cross country? Something like that. Anyway, I think y'all should consider whether or not you really want your favorite porn stars to be escorts. To my mind you need three components to be a successful escort: A marketable look, an interesting personality, and an accommodating disposition. Just because someone is hot and friendly doesn't mean he's a good COMPANION. Many of the porn models I have met were definitely not people I would want to pay to spend time around. If someone in porn has not also started escorting, it probably means he lacks the disposition (e.g. motivation and/or desire). Would you really want to experience him just for appearance's sake?

 

I talked with him in adam4adam Baltimore and he complained about his rent going up and other problems that could be resolved by escorting. I suggested it to him and he simply told me he couldn't do it.. he "doesn't have the stomach" to have sex with men like most of us are on this forum.

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