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I'm getting some heat here for using the term "fetish." Maybe we could have a forum for what is politically correct speech and what isn't. Then we would all know the guidelines to be followed. And who do we elect as the arbitrators of proper speech?

 

"You missed my point. What I was trying to get at it is the potency of language. For example, just by saying that certain sex acts are abnormal or pathological, we have, effectively, made them so. The sex act is the sex act - no more, no less. All the rest is baggage that has been created by what we say about it."

 

There wasn't anyone who misunderstood what I was asking unless they were looking to. I was not indicating that "certain sex acts are abnormal." I am as aware of the "potency of language" as I am aware of the potency of the speech police.

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Then what's a good "umbrella term" to use in place of the word 'fetish' when referring to the entire range of ... uh ... fetishes?

 

Sorry, nycguy, I also prefer the term "kink" or even "alt/alternative sexuality". One reason why is otherwise there's an overlap between something I like and enjoy and something I hate and avoid: those who would pursue me not because of my personality or individuality but because they fetishize my race (I'm part Asian) or my weight. Appreciating those things is vastly different from wanting me only because of those things. The latter turns me into a live blowup doll. I'll pass.

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Sorry, nycguy, I also prefer the term "kink" or even "alt/alternative sexuality". One reason why is otherwise there's an overlap between something I like and enjoy and something I hate and avoid: those who would pursue me not because of my personality or individuality but because they fetishize my race (I'm part Asian) or my weight. Appreciating those things is vastly different from wanting me only because of those things. The latter turns me into a live blowup doll. I'll pass.

 

I didn't know that someone who describes himself as being into "kink" or "alt/alternative sexuality" and not into "fetishes" is proof that that person is not attracted to you because of your race. I did not know that the intent in those words was so obvious. I did not know that one's "personality and individuality" so aptly shines through with the choice of a few words. Silly me, I thought that could only be established by getting to know a person. And I truly did not know that it is offensive to be attracted to someone physically before getting to know them. You need to campaign "Daddys Reviews" to eliminate offensive category descriptions of escorts such as, "Build", "Age", "Cock" and "Ethnic." The only true and meaningful description that should be allowed is "personality and individuality"

 

My deepest apologies for having offended you. And when you go after "Daddys Reviews" to stop being so offensive, I will be there wholeheartedly to support you.

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Perhaps we should just talk about "vanilla sex" and "chocolate sex". Both are delicious.

I like the maple walnut version myself... Plus, there is a very popular escort who makes basil flavored ice cream... Talk about an alternative flavor! If he's half as good at ice cream making as he is at escorting it has to be a winner... So this pesto lover is dying to sample that... Talk about a potential food fetish with sexual overtones that's not only out of the mainstream, but is associated with a certain ethnicity too boot! :D

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Sorry, nycguy, I also prefer the term "kink" or even "alt/alternative sexuality". One reason why is otherwise there's an overlap between something I like and enjoy and something I hate and avoid: those who would pursue me not because of my personality or individuality but because they fetishize my race (I'm part Asian) or my weight. Appreciating those things is vastly different from wanting me only because of those things. The latter turns me into a live blowup doll. I'll pass.

 

Everybody's different of course, but I enjoy being related to as a sex object.

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I didn't know that someone who describes himself as being into "kink" or "alt/alternative sexuality" and not into "fetishes" is proof that that person is not attracted to you because of your race. I did not know that the intent in those words was so obvious. I did not know that one's "personality and individuality" so aptly shines through with the choice of a few words. Silly me, I thought that could only be established by getting to know a person. And I truly did not know that it is offensive to be attracted to someone physically before getting to know them. You need to campaign "Daddys Reviews" to eliminate offensive category descriptions of escorts such as, "Build", "Age", "Cock" and "Ethnic." The only true and meaningful description that should be allowed is "personality and individuality"

 

My deepest apologies for having offended you. And when you go after "Daddys Reviews" to stop being so offensive, I will be there wholeheartedly to support you.

 

 

I hope this whole discussion hasn't made you feel unsafe. I made my original comment more as a general observation of the unsavory connotations in the term "fetish," and never intended it as an objection to your use of the word. If I got upset every time someone used language that I have some issue with, I would rapidly go crazy.

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I also prefer the term "kink" or even "alt/alternative sexuality". One reason why is otherwise there's an overlap between something I like and enjoy and something I hate and avoid: those who would pursue me not because of my personality or individuality but because they fetishize my race (I'm part Asian) or my weight. Appreciating those things is vastly different from wanting me only because of those things. The latter turns me into a live blowup doll.

 

That set me to thinking, and to looking up terms. Wikipedia turned out to be unusually helpful:

 

In human sexuality, kinkiness or kinky (adjective), is a colloquial term used to describe unconventional sexual concepts or practices. The term derives from the idea of a "bend" (cf. a "kink") in one's sexual behaviour, to contrast such behaviour with "straight" or "vanilla" sexual mores and proclivities. The term "kink" has been claimed by some who practice sexual fetishism as a term or synonym for their practices, indicating a range of sexual and sexualistic practices from playful to sexual objectification and certain paraphilias.

 

Kink sexual practices go beyond what are considered conventional sexual practices as a means of heightening the intimacy between sexual partners. Some draw a distinction between kink and fetishism, defining the former as enhancing partner intimacy, and the latter as replacing it.[1] Because of its relation to "normal" sexual boundaries, which themselves vary by time and place, the definition of what is and is not kink varies widely as well.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kink_%28sexual%29

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I have never been into fisting, but I had two close friends who were active members of FFA. They and their associates always seemed to approach the act like serious experts engaged in a special craft, rather than guys having fun sex, but of course it does require a lot more preparation than spontaneous sucking and fucking. Both were primarily tops, and they could never satisfactorily explain to me the sexual pleasure of topping.

I agree. I have never seen the appeal of fisting. I also don't want a prolapsed anus in my future.:p

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Lord Byron supposedly petitioned the Crown for a stipend to support one of his boyfriends who had been incapacitated for life by a too-large wooden dildo. :eek:[/quote

 

Yikes! talk about splinters in very uncomfortable places!!

reminds me of the descriptions of condoms people wore. like animal horn and shell, linen festooned with ribbons and seed pearls. I am sure the sensation was... unusual to say the least

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I agree. I have never seen the appeal of fisting. I also don't want a prolapsed anus in my future.:p

I remember the first time that I saw fisting done sitting in a movie theater a million years ago... There was a can of Crisco that the camera focused on at the beginning of the scene and what happened next blew my mind. Decided then and there that it was not my scene!

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I remember the first time that I saw fisting done sitting in a movie theater a million years ago... There was a can of Crisco that the camera focused on at the beginning of the scene and what happened next blew my mind. Decided then and there that it was not my scene!

 

The first move depiction I saw was in "LA Plays Itself" by Fred Halsted. There was an amazing fisting sequence in which Halsted fisted his boyfriend. It was very "no holds barred." I thought it was the most erotic porno sequenc ever shot.

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There was a fisting scene in the Penthouse production, "Caligula." But it was only suggested, nothing explicit.

I remember watching/sneaking Caligula as a very young and impressionable child

hmmm.. wasn't there some movie about an actor getting fisted with butter by an actress? I think? I seem to remember butter..

 

I remember now. It was Last Tango in Paris.

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