escort rates

[pierrot]

I live in NYC and normally pay $200-250/hr for escort's "time". I now have a couple of guys on my list (don't you keep a wish list too?) who are $300. This seems like a lot to me, especially since the best times I've had have been actually for 200, and this would be 50% more. Does anyone have any experience that indicates you get more when you pay more? Also does asking an escort if they are interested in taking less than their advertised price make sense? I hesitate to do that since I figure he might resent it and give me less than his best.

[+ Axiom2001]

Two hundred/two hundred fifty is a lot of money for a good fuk, but I have succumb and given in and have paid a lot of $$$$$'s for this type of enjoyment and fun and activity in my life. On two occasions I've paid $300 for a 2 hr. session. Both were extremely hot and superb; I think these experiences were not based on the amount of money given at the end but with the sexual chemistry and energy that existed between us (on both of these two occasions).

 

With one of the above 2hr sessions-- I'd been with the guy more than once and he stated that he'd charge me $300 for a 2hr where normally he has charged more. So in asking an escort to reduce his rate on your first meeting him--I think is not too cool, but you could discuss it up front before making the initial appointment.

[guptasa1]

Hey there,

 

Well, one thing I've noticed (I sometimes am interested in escorts in NYC even though I'm in PA since it's one of the closest major metro escort areas), the escort prices in NYC are significantly higher than other places around me, probably because it's such an expensive city. And Campus is generally much higher priced than the private escorts. It really does depend where you go what the rates are I think. (For example, I've noticed that escorts in Canada [Toronto] tend to be significantly less expensive compared to escorts in the States...especially with the money conversion factor.)

 

I think a large part of the question you ask has to do with how long you're planning to hire the escort. I think the longer the amount of time you plan to spend with an escort, the more likely you are to work out some sort of pricing deal. For example, somebody might negotiate on an evening or an overnight where they wouldn't for a few hours (though some may not negotiate at all).

 

I think you could ask if there's someone you're interested in seeing, but I'd just do it very carefully and tactfully. "Hey - I don't mean to offend you at ALL by asking this, but I'm wondering if you negotiate at all as to your rates because this is a bit expensive for me right now." As long as you ask in a way that's polite and respects them, the worst I'd imagine happening is "Sorry - I don't negotiate on price." or something like that. *shrugs* But it may be worth a shot. I'm sorta doubtful for a one or two hour appointment it will happen, but I certainly wish you the best of luck.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Franco, where are you? :+

[Guest HonkingGoose]

I've hired from coast to coast, and I've seen little relationship between cost and value. Some of my best experiences have been for far under $200--$150 and less.

[woodlawn]

It would be only a slight exaggeration to say that this topic has been discussed here about a million times.

 

The escorts who post here usually react negatively to any suggestion that it's appropriate for clients to try to bargain for a lower rate -- what a surprise, eh? -- but if an escort is truly asking more than you are willing to pay you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by doing so. Simply tell the escort that you never pay more than X and thanks anyway. If you do that, there will be times when the escort responds by dropping his price. There will be other times when the escort refuses to bargain, but if you wouldn't see him at the price he's quoting you have lost nothing.

 

Escorts are running a business -- if you doubt it, try getting one to see you free of charge -- so you should never be reluctant to discuss price or any other business issue that concerns you. There are escorts who will try to make you think that doing so shows "disrespect" or means you are treating them like a "commodity," but that is merely a tactic they use to help them get what they want out of the transaction and should never be taken seriously.

 

Have fun!

[theDCeBOY]

>Simply

>tell the escort that you never pay more than X and thanks

>anyway.

simply do that & most guys with the slightest shred of dignity will ignore you. if you have some TACT and indicate that something is beyond your means, you're much more likely to get a positive responce.

>but if you wouldn't see

>him at the price he's quoting you have lost nothing.

no loss, but why be an ass about it?

>There are escorts who will try to make you

>think that doing so shows "disrespect"

it all depends on how you say it.

>that is merely a tactic

>they use to help them get what they want out of the

>transaction

yeah, such unreasonable expectations as courtesy and respect.

 

 

by all means, if you really want to see someone but can't afford it, mention that to the guy--politely. saying "i refuse to pay that much" doesn't cut it. why should someone give a lower price to someone who is already being an ass?

[Rick Munroe]

>The escorts who post here usually react negatively to any

>suggestion that it's appropriate for clients to try to bargain

>for a lower rate -- what a surprise, eh?

 

Well, don't include me there. I've never said it's a bad thing for someone to try to negotiate, but when those of us who don't like to negotiate say so, the prospective client should stop pushing for it. That's when it can get a little obnoxious.

[woodlawn]

>>Simply

>>tell the escort that you never pay more than X and thanks

>>anyway.

 

>simply do that & most guys with the slightest shred of dignity

>will ignore you. if you have some TACT and indicate that

>something is beyond your means, you're much more likely to get

>a positive responce.

 

I'm afraid that putting up your own opinion and inflating it by claiming it represents what "most guys" would do doesn't cut it. You have no way of knowing how "most guys" in this business would react to anything. No one here does.

 

 

>yeah, such unreasonable expectations as courtesy and respect.

 

>why should someone give a

>lower price to someone who is already being an ass?

 

Why in the world would anyone listen to a lecture on courtesy and respect from someone like you, who was kicked off this message board for sending hate mail to the owner? It would be like consulting Pat Robertson or Franklin Graham on how to show the proper respect for other religions. Next we will be getting a lecture on sportsmanship from Bobby Knight.

[theDCeBOY]

>Why in the world would anyone listen to a lecture on courtesy

>and respect from someone like you, who was kicked off this

>message board for sending hate mail to the owner?

EVEN the site owner backed off that claim when pressed about the contents of the email.

[jasoncarter_dfw]

Ethan:

 

From reading your recent postings...it's my firm belief that you'd get alot farther in your business if you'd simply exercise some restraint on this message board. You're giving a very bad impression of yourself to potential clients.

 

- Jason Carter - Dallas, TX

- http://www.sexyjasoncarter.com

- jason@sexyjasoncarter.com

 

 

>>Simply

>>tell the escort that you never pay more than X and thanks

>>anyway.

>

>simply do that & most guys with the slightest shred of dignity

>will ignore you. if you have some TACT and indicate that

>something is beyond your means, you're much more likely to get

>a positive responce.

>

>>but if you wouldn't see

>>him at the price he's quoting you have lost nothing.

>

>no loss, but why be an ass about it?

>

>>There are escorts who will try to make you

>>think that doing so shows "disrespect"

>

>it all depends on how you say it.

>

>>that is merely a tactic

>>they use to help them get what they want out of the

>>transaction

>

>yeah, such unreasonable expectations as courtesy and respect.

>

>

>by all means, if you really want to see someone but can't

>afford it, mention that to the guy--politely. saying "i refuse

>to pay that much" doesn't cut it. why should someone give a

>lower price to someone who is already being an ass?

>

>

>

[theDCeBOY]

>Ethan:

>

> From reading your recent postings...it's my firm belief

>that you'd get alot farther in your business if you'd simply

>exercise some restraint on this message board. You're giving

>a very bad impression of yourself to potential clients.

 

jason:

 

from reading your recent postings, (note: comma is the correct punctuation) it is my firm belief that i couldn't possibly care less what your opinion is. if i'm giving such a horrid impression, why are they still contacting me to set up appointments?

 

PLEASE, don't bother responding.

 

enjoy your day!

[Cooper]

Pierrot, I see you live in NYC. Do you ever pick-up hustlers at Stella's? IF those guys are your type, you can do very well. $100-150 seems to be the going rate.

 

Btw, I have tremendous respect for Jason Carter and his opinions. He's one of the good guys on this board.

[theDCeBOY]

what's wrong with my comments? i simply said that if you are polite, you're more likely to get someone to be flexible, unless you're talking with someone who enjoys being treated like shit.

 

jason's comment wasn't directed at you; it was quite specifically directed to me. he's welcome to conduct his business in any way he likes. i didn't request his advice.

[Guest ortrud45]

To: Mr. Clever as ever ...

 

Your Majesty, you may be smart, you may be educated, you have a big

dick, which is not an unimportant factor in your business, but you

forward your opinions in such an arrogant, superior and stuck-up way,

that I can't imagine that you are behaving differently when meeting with your clients!

That's probably what a fellow-escort wanted to express with his post.

 

I'm convinced that you are going to reply in your usual selfabsorbed

way as Mr. Right is always right and is obsessed to have the last say.

 

There is a German proverb which reads:

"Reden ist Silber und Schweigen ist Gold".

It's not too late to give it some thought!

 

With humbliest regards, ortrud45

 

PS: In case you don't master the German language, I offer you a translation: sometimes it's better to keep quiet than to talk.x(

[theDCeBOY]

>That's probably what a fellow-escort wanted to express with

>his post.

no. let's be honest. he was trying to attack me publicly. were he really trying to be helpful, he would have contacted me privately.

[woodlawn]

>>Why in the world would anyone listen to a lecture on

>courtesy

>>and respect from someone like you, who was kicked off this

>>message board for sending hate mail to the owner?

 

>EVEN the site owner backed off that claim when pressed about

>the contents of the email.

 

When "pressed"? He wasn't on a witness stand. So far as I recall, he simply declined to share the emails, as he had every right to do.

 

As that incident and even your posts of the last few days show, you rub a lot of people the wrong way. I don't think you are the right person to give lectures on courtesy and respect.

 

And I don't think there is anything rude about telling an escort that X amount of money is more than one wants to pay. One is free to say a certain amount is more than one can afford, but for some of us the issue is not inability to afford a certain price but unwillingness to pay what we consider an unreasonable price. Why does saying that make one an "ass"? In business, telling someone you think his price is out of line is not considered an insult. As I said, I think some escorts pretend it is disrespectful in order to discourage clients from bargaining and maximize their earnings. Others, I am glad to say, have a more businesslike attitude.

[theDCeBOY]

>As that incident and even your posts of the last few days

>show, you rub a lot of people the wrong way.

how much clearer could i make this? i simply don't care!

>I don't think

>you are the right person to give lectures on courtesy and

>respect.

great. you're entitled to your opinion.

>And I don't think there is anything rude about telling an

>escort that X amount of money is more than one wants to pay.

i don't either. i never asserted that i do. i said that the chances of a friendly responce go up when one is friendly himself. "i refuse to pay that amount!" wouldn't entice me to be flexible.

>unwillingness to pay what we

>consider an unreasonable price. Why does saying that make one

>an "ass"?

fine... say that you think it is unreasonable. i maintain that if you choose a more friendly tack, you'll get a greater willingness to reach a compromise amount. you don't have to believe me. you're welcome to disagree with me. that's my take on it, though.

>In business, telling someone you think his price is

>out of line is not considered an insult.

it depends on the words you choose to use.

saying "you're not worth that much!" is clearly insulting. saying "i'm really not comfortable paying that" isn't. again, you're welcome to disagree. since i'm saying it, chances are you'll force yourself to disagree. that is rather predictable. you LIKE disliking me. that's cool.

>As I said, I think

>some escorts pretend it is disrespectful in order to

>discourage clients from bargaining and maximize their

>earnings.

i'd agree with you to some extent. SOME escorts think ANY attempt to get value for money is disrespectful. SOME escorts want to rip people off. that doesn't mean we're all that way, though.

[woodlawn]

>>As that incident and even your posts of the last few days

>>show, you rub a lot of people the wrong way.

 

>how much clearer could i make this? i simply don't care!

 

You have already made it abundantly clear. That is why you're the wrong person to be telling the rest of us to behave as if we DO care about the effect of our words on others. You clearly don't care about the effect of yours.

 

 

>>And I don't think there is anything rude about telling an

>>escort that X amount of money is more than one wants to pay.

>

 

>>unwillingness to pay what we

>>consider an unreasonable price. Why does saying that make

>one

>>an "ass"?

 

>since i'm saying it, chances are

>you'll force yourself to disagree. that is rather predictable.

>you LIKE disliking me. that's cool.

 

You have an exaggerated notion of the amount of interest you hold for me. The truth is that to me you are nothing but an image on a screen, neither liked nor disliked. I will mention the fact that while you said in one of your earlier posts that you no longer regard everything that is said to you as a personal attack, that does not seem to be true.

 

 

>>As I said, I think

>>some escorts pretend it is disrespectful in order to

>>discourage clients from bargaining and maximize their

>>earnings.

 

>i'd agree with you to some extent. SOME escorts think ANY

>attempt to get value for money is disrespectful. SOME escorts

>want to rip people off. that doesn't mean we're all that way,

>though.

 

Glad to hear it.

[LovesYng]

It's seems the bull shit is starting again. Now this time it's with someone else. I'm starting to wonder now if it was really Axebahia.

 

When in doubt I whip it out:+

[LovesYng]

>It's seems the bull shit is starting again. Now this time

>it's with someone else. I'm starting to wonder now if it was

>really Axebahia.

>

>When in doubt I whip it out:+

 

I forgot, one more good thread gone to hell with the bull shit starting again x(

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[theDCeBOY]

so once again you people are trying to say i shouldn't respond when i am directly attacked.

 

fuck off

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Where Is Waldo

 

>Franco, where are you? :+

 

This is the second instance where I find myself (shockingly so) in some agreement with Little Woody. The shock was such that it took me a full 37.5 hours to respond to the smelling salts (not to mention what this did to my low sodium diet) to comment....

 

That said, my agreement with our Little Exasperator, is purely with the fact that the escort rate issue has been covered over.

 

My recollection of the consensus was that clients did not believe they were getting more "bang for their buck" unless they were the type of clients who were in the habit of hiring currently popular (versus formerly popular) adult film performers or currently popular (and in training) body builders and other escorts for muscle worship. After all, for every negative thing said on this site about Mr. Fosters and Mr. Daulton, both remain in business and apparently do so quite well.

 

As for negotiating, I think Mr. Munroe said it well; any client who wishes to attempt to negotiate is always welcome to do so, however they should take a demurer as the final response and either look elsewhere or take a rain check for a later date.

 

About once a week, an interested client advises me that they think my rate is too high. I generally make some suggestions to them of where they might find what they seek. No one has ever tried to convince me to accept less than my stated rate; at most, they may have suggested that $XXX was all they could afford. My standard respond is that my rate is my rate and to lower it for some and not all would not be fair.

 

That said, as I have often written here, my regular clients always get perferential treatment, including beneficial cost considerations.

[+ deej]

>so once again you people are trying to

>say i shouldn't respond when i am directly attacked.

 

Yes, and I've said it to you before.

 

IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE

 

Those who attack are only trying to provoke a response that they KNOW will only make you look bad.

[BuckyXTC]

w, I have tremendous respect for Jason Carter and his

>opinions. He's one of the good guys on this board.

 

I'm with you on this one. Jason Carter is one of the nicest, classiest escorts I have had the pleasure of seeing. He's both bright and thoughtful and hotter than hell. Though I'm no mind reader, I'm convinced his suggestions were made to be helpful.