I invite you all to look inside yourself, and get to the core reason of the hate:

[JoeyBryant]

I know some people (most) probably feel it's pointless to even have this discussion. But, I'm going to have it anyway because I'm not going to leave until I get the same recognition as anyone else on this board who has catered to clients the same amount of time I have. Yes, I understand it's just the internet, and it's just bitter old queens (often the same ones) but I have a reputation that is un-tarnished in the business..and won't be affected by this forum. What happens here, stays here. I have repeat clients all the time. Because I enjoy what I do. I'm not in a dark place, I'm not suffering at the hands of anyone on here, and certainly not suffering at the hands of the business.

 

I say look inside of yourself, and find out what the real reason is. I bet you probably can't find any valid reason. Saying, "I'm always bitching and complaining" is not a valid reason because it's not directed towards you. I have spoken more good than bad. Most of this stuff I post in the 'ask an escort section. Learn what makes a better encounter with an escort.' Many of you non-escorts jump at the opportunity to respond days before an actual escort responds. The many times I've contributed useful or relevant information, it just gets ignored completely and the praise goes right to the same old guys all the time. But the minute I mention something that I feel could improve in the business, it's received negatively...even though it's not negative in nature. It may be 'unpleasant' to 'realize', but it in itself is not negative. We should all be mature and adult enough to face reality in a constructive manner, instead of trying to oust a person by threatening to not hire them.

 

I have never directed an issue toward any 1 forum member. I've never called out anyone and said, "so and so on the forum met with me last night and did this or didn't do that". I have also never initiated anything negative about any particular escort on the forum or mistreated them for something they have posted, or recognition that they have received. So why take it upon yourselves to make insults and gestures directly at me, if you're not the subject of the topic?

 

There is no reason to criticize me, about something I say that's not even directed towards anyone on here. Those of you claiming you won't hire me because of how I'm perceived on the forum, that has no foundation here. I have more than enough angles to be viewed on, than to believe that this is the be all, end all of my reputation. You have the reviews, the website, the ads, the blog, the pictures, the consistency. It's all there.

 

So what is the real reason? I understand that Daddy's message forum radiates the idea of White Superiority strongly onto Escort Dominion (don't believe me, just take a look at the Gallery section). Or how the only guys who really get much rank around here just so happen to be, White. Of course, that is no envy/disdain to any of those guys because I can list plenty who have been considerate to me in the business (Tristan, Chris, Mikey to name a few). But, if that's the theme here...at-least warn people like myself before we come here. Make it clear that this isn't the place for ethnics, and anyone who is will be ran off by the pitch fork mob.

 

That's all I have to say for now. Maybe someone, somewhere will learn something from this. Regardless of how it's perceived, I hold no animosity against anyone. That would be crazy. Having never met many of you, it'd be like me holding a grudge against my laptop screen lol. It's an inanimate object. All of us are.

[Nvr2Thick]

[video=youtube;jpl_jPxSuFg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jpl_jPxSuFg

[Newly]

I guess that's why I like your postings Joey, I can always count on them to be unscripted! I honestly don't think it is racism, if it were I wouldn't be on this forum. There is no doubt that a lot of people here have very particular tastes such as the height, muscle, hair, and/or race of the escorts they want to hire, and would never consider anything else. I think that's kind of sad, since when I've gone outside what I thought were my likes I've been pleasantly surprised, but it's not racism it's more of a blond versus ginger type of thing. That being said, I remember saying once that this is all Kabuki, and you upset that notion. For the most part the people on the forum are older guys with some amount of money and they want "their" guys to behave in very scripted ways. What's more a few posters get very upset if anyone thinks differently from the way they do. I would hate to be on a forum where everyone thinks the same way. I mean if you can't get different points of view why even bother, but some posters obviously feel threatened by different ways of looking at things. Most of the well liked escorts have by necessity gotten very good at saying things that can't possibly upset anyone, since this is a service industry and they don't want to alienate customers. I don't agree with many of your postings but I see them as venting and talking from the heart, and I like that. I want to hear what's really in an escort's heart and lots of time when people vent it isn't well scripted. But I would much rather hear that then someone telling me how great I look after loosing weight or how fantastic I am or some other scripted reply. I'm not putting down those escorts, it must be utter hell to be on a forum where if you're a client and say the wrong thing it's of no consequence but if you're an escort you could be hurting your livelihood, but hearing what bugs escorts about clients (outside of normal stuff like not paying) is good. Anyhow, I hope you keep on speaking your mind, I learn a lot from it and if some bitter old guys get upset because you break the mold of what an escort is supposed to say, who the hell cares?

[jgoo]

I guess that's why I like your postings Joey, I can always count on them to be unscripted! I honestly don't think it is racism, if it were I wouldn't be on this forum...... That being said, I remember saying once that this is all Kabuki, and you upset that notion. For the most part the people on the forum are older guys with some amount of money and they want "their" guys to behave in very scripted ways. What's more a few posters get very upset if anyone thinks differently from the way they do. I would hate to be on a forum where everyone thinks the same way. I mean if you can't get different points of view why even bother, but some posters obviously feel threatened by different ways of looking at things. Most of the well liked escorts have by necessity gotten very good at saying things that can't possibly upset anyone, since this is a service industry and they don't want to alienate customers. I don't agree with many of your postings but I see them as venting and talking from the heart, and I like that. I want to hear what's really in an escort's heart and lots of time when people vent it isn't well scripted. But I would much rather hear that then someone telling me how great I look after loosing weight or how fantastic I am or some other scripted reply. I'm not putting down those escorts, it must be utter hell to be on a forum where if you're a client and say the wrong thing it's of no consequence but if you're an escort you could be hurting your livelihood, but hearing what bugs escorts about clients (outside of normal stuff like not paying) is good. Anyhow, I hope you keep on speaking your mind, I learn a lot from it and if some bitter old guys get upset because you break the mold of what an escort is supposed to say, who the hell cares?

 

I could not agree more with newtothis ...spot on with my views as well. I've talked to several escorts about the forum, some who have participated in the past but no longer participate, and others who wouldn't touch this place with a 10,000 foot pole. They all have their own reasons for not participating but mainly it comes down to not wanting to risk saying something that puts them in a situation of being an outcast and/or they dislike the tone of the board. The ones I have talked to that still participate are open about how they are so very careful with what they post and often do not speak what they truly feel. That is their choice (and understandable to some degree) but I think in many regards unfortunate for the community as a whole. Joey is the exception and while I may not always agree with or appreciate what Joey posts, I do think he provides a perspective that adds some interest, at least to me, for what goes on in his life as an escort (with his ups and downs, the good the bad and the ugly...not a sanitized version).

 

There is value, from time to time, to reflect on what brings us here (or keeps us away) and how we can build a better community. Every individual can make a contribution on some level and that should be appreciated and encouraged, regardless of any issues one may have with what someone posts.

[uwsman2]

Joey, I always read your posts with interest, because it is clear to me that they are honest and heartfelt and provide a mirror into the life of an escort that is valuable to share. Don't be disheartened if some people respond negatively - that reflects more on them than on you. And if you ever take the plunge into a New York City escorting trip, please get in touch! Some of the absolutely hottest experiences I have had have been with African-American men. . .

[Steven_Draker]

Anyhow, I hope you keep on speaking your mind, I learn a lot from it and if some bitter old guys get upset because you break the mold of what an escort is supposed to say, who the hell cares?

 

Isn't that a bit selfish?

Encouraging Joey to continue hurting his business for the purpose of your "personal entertainment" ... Kabuki? Did you pay your entrance?

 

I suggest you put your money where your mouth is. Hire Joey and write a review.

[LookingAround]

I have no idea what the OP is talking about and find the post really strange.

[AdamSmith]

http://activerain.com/image_store/uploads/8/0/1/7/9/ar12625368597108.jpg

[+ nycman]

In other words:

 

"The problem isn't that I'm a whiney cheap angry classless name calling escort with a

bad attitude who happens to be dark skinned.....the problem is you guys are racists"

 

Your race has nothing to do with it.

 

If you only knew how much you've hurt your business you'd be astounded.

 

Obviously you don't, which is fortunate for your ego, but not for your business.

 

The fact that you attempt to appear earnest, only makes it sadder.

 

Your childish behavior clearly isn't limited to your participation on this board.

 

I feel sorry for the clients who chose to hire you and the men who dare to date you.

 

One thing we agree on, you do have real problems and this board isn't helping them.

 

-nycman (aka "dumbass")

[jimboivyo]

most ridiculous thing I have read here in a good while

 

never have you taken blame for your bad attitude but instead blame others. you fall back on the race card but folks here know better. this isn't about your skin color: It's about you constantly complaining about something. you're like an old lady. you piss and moan but I reckon you don't have the reviews or reputation to back it up.

 

this isn't hate. it's members of the board being tired of your broken record

[+ Funguy]

THE RACE CARD? REALLY?! Some of us white boyz might actually love a tumble with a certain man - whether or not he is a man of color makes no difference. We simply don't want to hear complaints, we have enough of our own which could bore this forum AND YOU to tears. I just want to be greeted by a smile and a kiss, treated to some fantastic sex, cuddled, have more sex and eventually leave on a high.

 

Joey, you say you have plenty of business, incl. return customers, and this forum makes no difference. If this is true for you, consider yourself extremely lucky, wave goodbye and don't come back. At times, many in fact, forum members have tried to get you to see that we actually don't care about your whining. Many of the issues you raise could have been raised in ways other than complaining and saying "poor me" or "woe is me". Others on this forum have actually stated they would not hire you specifically because of the whining. Does that not tell you something? You are slowly strangling your client base.

 

There are a lot of escorts who are really hustling out there to get our attention in POSITIVE ways. They probably smile and put up with a lot as they are learning and don't bellyache. Those guys are the new up and comings, will have great reviews, and in a few years will become common names here, there, and everywhere. The Joeys in this scene will fade away because we are all trying to have a few hours to get away from the world of complaints and not think about anything but pleasure (ours AND his).

[+ not2rowdy]

...Hire Joey and write a review.[/color]

 

I know the quote wasn't directed to me but

I have… and I have…

But then mine was a "first time reviewer".

Not sure we want open up that thread again though...

 

…but I reckon you don't have the reviews or reputation to back it up.

 

Hmmm…

daddyreviews > Bryant > Denver

also 8 written reviews on M4RN > Denver > ID: 218994 > cruising for escorts

 

Now if Joey was to seek my advice before some of his posting I, in my very conservative politically correct ways, would likely suggest some rewording before submission. But I suspect the impact would be much less.

 

I don't agree with all of his comments and think some hurt his business - particularly with this forum population. But I continue to appreciate he has the cojones to speak his mind.

[instudiocity]

Roflmfao!

Seriously, I'm crying tears!

 

I looked up SANCTIMONIOUS in an Online Dictionary, there was a copy of Joey's Post.

 

See my quote from Juan Vancouver's post last month below:

[Decatur Guy]

June 2010:

 

How often does a client just up and leave?

 

I am finding recently there seems to be a select client or 2 who for whatever reason, are coming in...and leaving in less than a minute. You would think I'd be embarrassed to mention such a thing, but I've been told countless numbers of time that I look "just like the picture", so I'd imagine its not looks.

 

The other weekend, someone came in...and then left me a bill because he was 'too nervous'. Then tonight...another one just walks right on for no apparent reason. From the moment we met downstairs til coming up to the room, he had like 30 seconds to change his mind, but waited til I got into the room.

 

Its like, I understand its going to happen eventually to any one of us...so it feels unjustified to even be upset over it, but I actually am. The 1st time, I was like..whatever, its 230 am anyway. But this time, Im just annoyed. Not that I let any of them know it, but it takes a few hours for it to wear off .

 

+++

 

October 2010:

 

People outside the industry giving unwarranted suggestions, annoying huh?

 

I love my friend, he's a great guy and Im sure he has all the best intentions. However, the other day we were chatting via text and he sent me something that I really didn't appreciate it. It was along the lines of:

 

"This seems like a bad time to be trying to get people to pay for ***. Maybe its time to find another line of work. Thats recreational disposable income people just dont have right now. Too much competition from the pros I guess"

 

Now...not only is he not in the business, but has no clue as to how it works. I got VERY irritated by this text message, and it was a result of me saying that I wasn't as busy in Vegas as I imagined (although 2 weeks later, Im strangely having people call and text me about appointments...hmmm)

 

+++

 

September 2010:

 

I feel like such an idiot...a complete wasted trip

 

This has been the most crazy and stressful beginning of the week I've had all year. I was going to contain it to my blog but just wanting to know if anyone else has made a similar mistake.

 

It all started when I decided to head off to Vegas and I had planned to be there for a week. I had advertised several days prior. I should have known before-hand when I didn't get any calls the week prior. But I figured they were just being courteous and reading the dates on my ad.

 

Well, on my 1st day there...I ended up having to spend way more than the hotels had advertised, it was such a hassle trying to do everything there. I then had a couple cancellations.

 

+++

 

July 2010:

 

Sometimes I question if its even worth staying...

 

I'm getting to the point that I do not even enjoy my time posting (or reading) the things on here anymore. I appreciate the fact that its a review site and all...and am glad that its here, but I come to see that this place breeds nothing but a bunch of prententious, fake 'users' thats a borderline White Supremacy site. And by looking at the review section of places like D.C. and Atlanta, that only validates my statement.

 

+++

 

November 2010:

 

Why I always gripe about escorting in America...

 

Writing this up quickly before I go out for the night...but am doing so while the mood is still in me. I don't wish to be a messenger of gloom, but its stuff like this that has me so disappointed about how things are out here.

 

+++

 

January 2012:

 

Men4rent is starting their bullshit AGAIN...

 

So I make an update to the text in my ad earlier today. I come back home later to see my ad is approved with changes.

 

Turns out they deleted one of my photos that was previously up for the past 2 weeks, and give me the reason:

 

+++

 

March 2013:

 

Does anyone hate where they live more than I do? Take the challenge...

 

I can't wait for that Palm Springs weekend: Denver

 

+++

 

March 2013:

 

What the f***...Phoenix in March?

 

hotels are crazy expensive...usually it's not like this. is there something going on? Every hotel is charging maximum rates. I was just stopping thru on the way to Calif., but I decided to take a detour. I think the basic motel 6 is going for $100 a night. I've asked w of my friends what's the deal and mentioned it to a client, no one seems to know.

 

+++

 

October 2013:

 

Why are Ohio and Indiana callers so full of shit?

 

Not going to go into my individual experiences in both places, but had a call earlier this week. Guy spends almost half an hour on the phone talking about what he wants done, saying he'll do an overnight. Says he'll send me a $500 deposit, pay me for an overnight, then give me $100 for each of the 4 or 5 times he cums. Just goes into a whole detailed schedule and explanation about everything. I was just thinking to myself this guy is totally full of shit, but I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt.

 

+++

 

July 2012:

 

It's been the last straw for me, Is camming the next best thing?

 

I've had it with escorting at this point and especially traveling to do it. I've put so much effort and energy into this over the years only to not be getting back what I'm putting out.

 

This last straw has been my most recent visit to Arizona. It's been planned now for over a month. Steady contact prior to arrival. My 1st day, client seems all for it right up until 10 minutes prior citing a stomach problem. He emailed me and even chatted over the phone prior. Just out of the blue cancels. All the while asking me couple days prior when I was going to be in the area and wanting to move forward with it.

 

+++

 

May 2012:

 

Why do you feel clients can be nonconfrontational or don't give proper fare wells?

 

Yesterday I decided to end an 8 month long relationship with 2 friends (100% platonic) I've been hanging out with nearly every weekend. Although the actual 'you went WAY too far this time, our friendship can't be salvaged' moment occurred earlier that weekend; I was still polite enough to return (key word return, not initiate) the person's text message the next day. I let them know I was no longer interested in making plans to hang out with them at this time, and to please take care.

 

Although 1 of the responses I read were rather negative (hell, I was nice about it afterall!), I deleted subsequent messages and proceeded to use the call block feature on my service so that I can quickly avoid any further invitations into drama. Because afterall, they wouldn't come to me in person to say it so no need to carry on behind a technological force-field.

 

+++

 

January 2012:

 

Announcing a final resignation from message forum...(not daddys reviews)

 

I've met some great people from here over the months I've spent here (Micheal V, Mikey, Kevin S, Mark Gordon, NateSF to name a few) but I just feel I need to move on. I'm not doing it for attention, or to get a rise. I'm doing it for me.

 

My main thing is that obviously there is a wide age disparity among myself and other members here. Most members are at different stages in life, have different things in mind than I do. So because of that, we're not going to see eye to eye on a lot of subjects. It's not about what's right or what's wrong, it's what will work for me and what I'm comfortable with and likewise for you.

 

+++

 

February 2012:

 

Don't you hate leftovers? Do YOU want to be a leftover *****? Probably not....

 

http://joeybryantonline.wordpress.co...tover-bitches/

 

AND LOOK! A REPLY FROM DECATUR GUY:

 

Joey, do you ever have positive, enjoyable experiences? Life -- or at least the escorting side of it -- seems to be one long, unfortunate string of unfair, negative encounters for you.

 

+++

 

However, you've pegged me man. I have to come clean: I said the above in February 2012 because you're black. ANYONE could read between the lines and see that was code for saying you're black and and I don't like you because of that. Because, otherwise, what's not to like in these posts? Posts like that are a clients' DREAM! Who wouldn't want to plop down a couple of hundred bucks for an hour of your time after reading posts like this over the past few years? It's SEXY! However, I can't get past the black thing and I'm darn sure it's same way for every other white forum member, too. They're just not being honest with themselves.

[+ sf westcoaster]

Joey's marketing model is certainly not one that I ever studied in graduate school!

[instudiocity]

I'm still stuck on "... you all look inside yourself..."

 

It's almost as though each poster on this forum dwells inside one 'person'. We're just posting using multiple screen names but we're ONE BODY.

 

We have all become one self!!!! And ourself is very selfish, because we kept Joey's $25 bottle of lube to ourself.

 

Seems to me that bottle isn't the only thing that's a few squirts short.

[Steven_Draker]

I know the quote wasn't directed to me but I have… and I have…

But then mine was a "first time reviewer". Not sure we want open up that thread again though...

You're correct. My post was not addressed to you.

But since you're unhappy that yours was labeled merely a "first time reviewer", why not rehire him and write a second review. If the experience was worth repeating, that is. You won't be a "first time reviewer" anymore and I'm sure he would appreciate it.

 

But I continue to appreciate he has the cojones to speak his mind.

 

A real friend would lend Joey a ear and suggest that he can speaks his mind in a face to face conversation; not encourage his "suicidal" behavior on this Board. If he wants to "gain recognition" here, as he writes today, there are other intelligent ways to achieve that. A good starting point would be to get a grip on himself and bite the bullet.

 

I haven't heard of any successful business that treats clients with contempt.

[jimboivyo]

I know the quote wasn't directed to me but

I have… and I have…

But then mine was a "first time reviewer".

Not sure we want open up that thread again though...

 

 

 

Hmmm…

daddyreviews > Bryant > Denver

also 8 written reviews on M4RN > Denver > ID: 218994 > cruising for escorts

 

Now if Joey was to seek my advice before some of his posting I, in my very conservative politically correct ways, would likely suggest some rewording before submission. But I suspect the impact would be much less.

 

I don't agree with all of his comments and think some hurt his business - particularly with this forum population. But I continue to appreciate he has the cojones to speak his mind.

 

 

he has reviews, yes but they're not so glowing and so many that he can get away with this self important garbage. joey lives to play racial russian roulette

 

there's a difference between having cojones and having the good sense to stay quiet when you're holding a weak hand. as another has just posted, his history of using this board as armchair psychologist is long and tiresome

[BgMstr4u]

I have been following Joey's posts for quite a while. I can relate to many of the negative feelings and thoughts he expresses. I have downers in my life. I have it on good authority that almost everyone does. And the ones who don't are probably on something. Do I share it with others on a regular basis? I went through a period of my life when I thought I needed to be honest, and a kind friend took me out for a long walk and said, basically, that people did not want to be around me because I was being so negative so much of the time. I did not realize how a little goes such a long, long way. So I dealt with it. I stopped bitching about my problems to everyone who would listen, and guess what: After a while I had more friends.

 

It had nothing to do with the objective reality of the negativity in my life. It had everything to do with how I met it and what I did about it.

 

What I keep wanting to hear from Joey is how great his life is -- the wonderful clients, the good and fun things his lifestyle and work brings to him. When I know what lights his bulb, maybe I would want to light it up too. But peer into the abyss? Not. I have enough of that legitimately in my own life. When I hook up with an escort, I want to be reminded how good my life is and share it with someone who makes it better, even if only for an hour or an evening or a weekend. It's all about the joy.

[+ FreshFluff]

I still think it would be a good idea for escorts to get together and make a group blog. Of course, that means that a few people would have to moderate, but being able to vent without consequences might be worth the extra work.

 

Here's an excerpt fro ma typical smackdown post on the defunct group blog for college instructors, RateYourStudents. I didn't write this, but it's very satisfying to write a post like this:

 

Lax Alexis: You have been at least 20 minutes late to every goddamn 9 a.m. Tuesday lecture this semester. The only time you actually arrived by 9 was when we had to start class at 8:30 to accommodate a scheduling conflict the prof had. You shouldn’t have done that—it only proved that, while you’re capable of arriving on time, you simply choose to be an ass. There are people in this class who don’t have the luxury of living ten minutes from campus—they commute from 40 minutes away. There are people with spouses, fiancés, and others to whom they are responsible. There are people who actually walk to class, without the posh opulence of their own vehicle. They all manage to be on time. Take the silver spoonhttp://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=ratyoustu-20&l=btl&camp=213689&creative=392969&o=1&a=B001OO9VLK out of your ass, grow up, and GET TO CLASS ON TIME.

 

Exasperating Evan: Just a quick note for you: when you only come to class half the time, you are not going to be able to contribute to our discussions in any meaningful way. You ask questions so broad an introductory textbook couldn’t cover them. Get a brain, asshole.

 

It would be very satisfying for escorts to vent like this sometimes. Sure, clients would find the blog, but if escorts change their location and a few other details, they won't be recognized.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

I still think it would be a good idea for escorts to get together and make a group blog. Of course, that means that a few people would have to moderate, but being able to vent without consequences might be worth the extra work.

 

Here's an excerpt fro ma typical smackdown post on the defunct group blog for college instructors, RateYourStudents. I didn't write this, but it's very satisfying to write a post like this:

 

 

 

It would be very satisfying for escorts to vent like this sometimes. Sure, clients would find the blog, but if escorts change their location and a few other details, they won't be recognized.

 

All the professors in my latest round of classes don't bother with this kind of stuff. They just print on the syllabus: if you miss more than one class for any reason whatsoever, you fail.

 

You sign the agreement at the beginning of the semester, or you are not allowed to take the class.

[+ FreshFluff]

All the professors in my latest round of classes don't bother with this kind of stuff. They just print on the syllabus: if you miss more than one class for any reason whatsoever, you fail.

 

You sign the agreement at the beginning of the semester, or you are not allowed to take the class.

 

Most professors I know have attendance policies laid out in detail in the syllabus. That's pretty much teaching 101. However, signing an agreement doesn't stop students from writing nasty reviews at the end of the semester and, at some schools, going to the Dean to complain that the professor is unfair and not sensitive to student needs. Hence the venting.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

Hence the venting.

 

Oh believe me, you have my empathy. I took some online classes that were painful because they all required discussion forum participation (like this one!) and you'd get these literally-just-under-the-wire comments from most people who would say "I agree." "I agree." "I agree." Maybe 3 or 4 people took the class seriously, and what really sucked was that there was a huge waiting list for most of the classes because they were prereqs and the administration wouldn't create more sections.

[Frequentflier]

Not every post requires a response. Move along.

[tom1980]

If this thread was started by anyone else, I would've known immediately that the author was trolling . . . just trying to see what sort of rise he could get out of everyone by stringing together absurd nonsequitors and waiting to see which of them caused each reader's head to explode. Would it be the obvious grammatical errors? The inexplicable play of the race card? Perhaps the preposterousness of concluding a rant by labeling people who would respond to it as inanimate objects? However, because it was written by Joey, I was almost suckered in (like so many others apparently were) and believed Joey was serious when he wrote this. Thankfully, the evidence proving that the post is a joke and cannot possibly be taken seriously is so overwhelming that I was not tricked. Good try though, Joey! You almost had me!