"Boy Mets Boy" Update (August 12)

[Guest alanm]

Dan was finally eliminated. Dan even admitted that he had told too many contradictory stories. And yes Dan is straight. Franklin stayed

way in the background tonight. He's the best looking guy and most

likely straight. James, the leading man, may think that Fanklin in too young and too good looking for him. So far James has eliminated 5 straight guys and 4 gay guys. Interesting show, with James thinking all the guys are gay. Sorry for those who like "Gay Eye for the Straight Guy" or what ever the other show is called. Okay show, but

inflexible format.

[taylorky]

RE:

 

the premise of the show is pretty cool.........but most of the guys, especially "james" are pretty effeminate.

 

in my opinion (that of an illiterate 3 y/o) the cutest guy was paul, and he was dumped last week..

[+ Charlie]

RE:

 

I don't find most of them "effeminate": I think they are just relaxed and natural, rather than trying to project a superbutch image that they don't feel is appropriate for James, who isn't chasing that stereotype. Of course, I think he may be chasing another stereotype--I didn't realize until last night that thinks he is Ozzie looking for Harriet. If so, Robb strikes me as the only one who is smart enough to make him eventually understand how silly that is, but he will probably choose Wes or Franklin and regret it.

 

I'm glad I was right about Dan being straight. Apparently at least one more is straight, and I'll guess it's Franklin or the slender young blond whose name I can never remember.

[Samai139]

":Boy Meets Boy"

 

I didn't see the first two shows, but have seen the last few. I must admit to being attracted to Dan, Franklin and Michael---all straight guys. Am I surprised that they were straight? Not really, I'd be the first to admit, that even in person, I am hopeless at detecting "gays." No gaydar for me!!! I wonder if the "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" fab five could give me a course!!!

My comments: I wish they would do a more "in-depth" de-briefing with the guys who were dumped. I'd like to know how much coaching, prompting is given to the straight guys who have to "act" gay. Also do any of the gay guys KNOW that others are straight? As I said, I didn't see the first show, so missed that. On last nights show, when some of the guys were discussing the bisexuality of one fellow, they seemed surprised that there could be a bi-sexual in their group.

James has no appeal to me at all--except when he talks to the camera---then he seems to be able to connect. Maybe in person he is more charismatic than he comes across on screen.

[Paul Revere]

RE:

 

After watching the previews for next week's show, they tell James that one of the remaining six is straight. My guess is Darrin, but I can see why others might guess Franklin, or maybe Sean.

 

I still don't believe that Dan is straight! Oh puhlease. Someone here posted a link to his website. He is an aspiring actor, so he wants to pretend that he is straight. I watched the sample clip he posted on his website of him in some low budget movie. He is no actor! He may be a poser, but not an actor.

[+ Charlie]

RE:

 

I wasn't aware that Dan was an aspiring actor. If so, he has a liability, because he looks like he SHOULD play a gay character: he is too cute and too short for most conventional straight roles. Perhaps he was trying to get appropriate experience playing gay and also showcasing himself for producers looking for adorable little hunks who could be convincing as gay characters.

 

I found it interesting that he seemed to be the only guy who generated real sexual tension among the others, who generally seem to regard one another as sisters.

[Guest alanm]

RE: Franklin

 

From what I understand, "reality" shows come together in the editing.

Who knows what information is being withheld? It is almost impossible

to not believe that Franklin is straight. He's too handsome to be so

inexperienced. Yes, he seems like a quiet nice guy who truly likes wine and classical music. But, Franklin is playing the game like some one who is feeling his way for the first time in the gay world. Maybe

he's just come to terms with his sexually, but I doubt it. He's not gay, but just the kind of person to appeal to James.

[eastbayguy]

RE: Franklin

 

>From what I understand, "reality" shows come together in the

>editing.

 

Reality shows are real in the same way Big Time Wrestling and the WWF are real. All sorts of effort goes in to putting the cast together, including psychological assessments of the cast. A good bit of behind the scenes manipulation by the crew and producers goes on. (Watch the "Real World" carefully for indications of the crew breaking up independent thoughts on the part of cast members.)

 

I've known two different "Real World" cast members prior to their inclusion in the show, and met others through the two people I know. I had the opportunity to meet a "Survivor" cast member who said surviving the manipulations of the crew was worse than the rest of the cast and the environment.

 

Personally, I don't think reality shows are any more real than "Bewitched" or "I Dream of Genie" or "My Mother the Car". The producers are trying to sell commercial time, and so are out to make a product appealing to as large an audience as possible. Sex sells, as does drama. These shows are also immensely profitable, as the cast expense is small, no giant egos and matching paychecks as in "Friends". But, the producers have goals and a final product in mind when they start, and assemble and manipulate the cast to get what they want.

 

--EBG

[nate_sf]

RE:

 

Matthew wins my heart for being the first one to say that he didn't like James. That was my question, especially as James has become more and more icky (in my opinion)... what happens if these guys who are supposed to be tripping over themselves trying to win the attention of the big catch decide they're not interested? Matthew was very diplomatic about it, but nevertheless negotiated himself out of there. Thata boy!

[Guest Kenny021]

RE:

 

" Matthew wins my heart for being the first one to say that he didn't like James. That was my question, especially as James has become more and more icky (in my opinion)."

 

I'll second that opinion....I don't think I particularly like him. On the other hand,I, liked Dan and thought he was the cutest (a view of his ass in the shower was the highlight of the last show). I suspected that something was up when he kept changing his story but hell, ALL OF THEM ARE ACTING.

[Guest Bitchboy]

Andra?

 

Is anyone uglier than that Andra? She gives faghags a bad name!

[Uncle Bill]

RE:

 

I also thought that Paul was a real cutie, but I think that he said he was straight after he got eliminated.

[Chuck50]

Your Thoughts???

 

What did everyone think about tonites show? Just wondering. I m still enjoying it hope others are as well. HUGS Chuck

 

Sorry to see RObb go. had wondered about what he saw in Sean and he was the str8m guy. HUGS Chuck:P :-( :-(

[Guest]

RE: Your Thoughts???

 

It seems they put the two straight guys in the same group of two so that there would be one straight guy left. I guess it's pretty clear now that the straight guy is Franklin. That artist guy (Sean?) was so clearly straight. He was the first guy I picked out as straight. I agree that I felt that Sean was a loser. But Franklin sure is a great actor! I kinda suspected from the beginning, but if I didn't know one of them was straight, I might believe they were all gay...

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Twinks Pool

 

We just bet on this, athough I admit I spent most of the show trying to figure out how to install an ethernet card on a new (used) desk top computer.

 

We bet 2 to 1 that James picks Wes, and 3-0 that Franklin was the straight guy.

 

We also voted 3-0 that James was, as one of the Twinks agreed with the poster above "kinda icky" then added "groddy."

[Guest jrpSCORP]

RE: Your Thoughts???

 

Unicorn, I TOTALLY agree with you about that BITCH putting the two straight guys together (Franklin being the other). I hink this was done for two reasons----FIRST and more obvious, they did not want James to be left with two out of his three chices being straight. SECOND---to have a real SHOCKER at the end when James actually does pic Franklin. Franlin is really working it, especially with the emotions. I think that anyone could tell that Sean was straight (except James, of course) I think James felt for the coy, introvert which Sean effortlessly projected. I must admit that I sometimes like that type----but ONLY in the gay variety and in a less trendy version than Sean. I do like Brian, but think that Wes is too queenie. For that matter, so is James. I would have picked Rob right up to the very end.

[+ Hoover42]

RE: Did the Other Guys Know?

 

Do you think the 15 guys knew at the start of the show that there were straight men in the group, or were they kept in the dark as well.

[+ Charlie]

RE: Your Thoughts???

 

I thought from the start that Sean was a flaky straight, and now I'm certain that Franklin is straight, too. I'll bet the producers put the two of them together in the last pair to guarantee that at least one of the final three would be straight. What irritates me is that the biggest, handsomest, most fierce competitor in the program--i.e., the most interesting character, certainly moreso than the bland, conventional James--is a straight man. Although I think James is a silly sentimentalist and deserves whoever he gets, I pray he doesn't choose Franklin and confirm the popular prejudice that, in their hearts, what gay men really desire is attractive straight men.

[+ Charlie]

RE: Did the Other Guys Know?

 

I think the gay men probably did not know, especially since several of them seemed quite surprised and disturbed when Michael admitted he was bisexual. However, some of them--Robb in particular--certainly became suspicious of others as the game progressed.

[+ Charlie]

RE: Andra

 

The one who really concerns me more than the guys is Andra. Of course, we don't know what happens behind the scenes and what is edited out, but James seems so preoccupied with his own emotional reactions that he is oblivious to the effect the "game" is having on her. He seems narcissistically self-involved and takes her interest in him for granted. She is coming unstrung, worrying not only about James but about the feelings of all the guys, and identifying too intensely with the drama of rejection. She is too emotionally invested in James's story, and needs to get a life of her own.

[Guest Kenny021]

RE: Andra

 

Very interesting take on last night's episode. I suspected that Sean was the straight guy....would a gay man have hair like that? I was also sure that the straight guy left in the group was the bartender (don't know his name) but after reading everyone's take on the arranging of Sean and Franklin, making sure that one straight guy was left for next week, I sorta agree that Franklin is now probably the straight guy. I like Wes and hope he gets picked but suspect that Franklin will get the nod and....LO AND BEHOLD...he's straight.

 

Again, I was convinced that Dan (the cute blond actor) was gay and look how that turned out.

Is next week's show the last one?

[phage]

RE: Your Thoughts???

 

I’ve got to admit that I really like this show. I think they’ve done an excellent job of challenging stereotypes without trying to pretend that ALL gay guys are just like ALL straight guys. Yeah, there are no flaming queens, but there has been enough camp to distinguish us from the hetero’s.

 

>Unicorn, I TOTALLY agree with you about that BITCH putting

>the two straight guys together (Franklin being the other).

 

Unfortunately, it has to be true. They’ve been arranging the groups all along to ensure that all the straight guys didn’t get eliminated. I originally hated the concept, but as the showed has played out, I have to admit that it wouldn’t have been half as interesting without this twist.

 

>I think that anyone could tell that Sean was straight (except James, of

>course)

 

I certainly thought he was, but that’s because I knew there were straight men among them. I don’t think it’s a matter of James not being able to “tell” a straight guy from a gay guy. He starts with the presumption that all of these guys are gay and has no reason to doubt it. Why wouldn’t he just assume that Sean is one of those ever elusive “straight acting” homo’s?

[duke37]

RE: Andra

 

Yeah I hear you about guessing wrong. I thought Darren was straight.

 

Isn't it funny how all the straight guys have some agenda about advancing gay/straight relations? All the gay ones seem to have kind of hoped for some kind of relationship and not just the trip. A big step in the gay revolution my ass.

 

Well if you were fooled by Dan perhaps you are right about Franklin. He does seem to share the quality of "trying too hard" with Dan.

 

Who knows. The damn game is rigged anyway.

 

Jeff

[duke37]

Effeminate

 

I was interested to hear some of the guys including James described that way.

 

I watch the show with a group of straight people and my completely unscientific polling revealed with only a couple "possible" exceptions that the straights thought that none of the guys were effeminate. Your mileage may vary.

 

Jeff

[nate_sf]

RE: Andra

 

>Isn't it funny how all the straight guys have some agenda

>about advancing gay/straight relations?

 

Yeah, that little speech Sean gave on his way out was puke-inducing. It seems like the straight guys all have something to say about how the experience has been "liberating" for them, but then I suppose they have to come up with something to say for the cameras other than "I guess I don't get the cash."

 

Now that James is in on the twist, let's hope he trusts his instincts about Franklin. After the limo ride with Franklin he said something about not knowing whether Franklin was honest, and now he has reasons to suspect him more.

 

Brian and Wes are both cute as a button, and honestly I have a hard time telling them apart. Flip a coin, or take both!