A Yankee in Shea Stadium?

[VaHawk]

At least the NYC guys will know what I mean. Sometimes, it seems that I'm wearing my pinstripes and find myself in "God no!, everyone else is dressed in ugly blue and orange, on LI".

 

It's just that same kind of "out of body" experience coming here for me. I find it hard to believe, that as a client, I am the only one looking for an escort whose head above the shoulders is more important than his head below the waist. Don't get me wrong, I love sex, but you know I can find cheap street/bar whores for a quickie, but when I spend 3 or 4 digits to be with someone, I want to be with someone who is my personal definition of an "escort"! I want to be with someone who is educated, intelligent, conversant and who enjoys going to dinner, a show, a concert, a sporting event, or whatever, and who will converse with me intelligently on a variety of subjects, and who will talk to me about himself and his interests and will listen to mine in return and who is also good in "bed" and "versatile" in that regards.

 

I just don't seem to find that here on the reviews or threads in the mc as it is mostly all about sex, sex, sex! So, in that regard, I guess I'm just in the wrong ballpark (ergo my reference to a Yankee at Shea). I love it when escorts post here on a variety of topics, as it let's me know whether we would be compatible and have enough interests in common to spend a significant amount of time together. Just me, but I don't do one or two hour sessions.

 

Why can't we have a discussion about someone without it boiling down to how "hot" he is (for example about the reporters). Physical beauty and/or endowment is just a "quirk of nature" and to reduce a man to those terms is truly a disservice to him and his accomplishments in life and to his true beauty and attractiveness as a gay man, or indeed, as a human being.

 

It is one thing, imo, to post pictures of "entertainers" like Les, thank God, that we can all lust after and drool over, but another to speculate on the "hotness" of someone whose main venue is another profession.

 

Well, doggone it Depitty Dawg, I 'spose you got off topic. But, I guess I'm asking if there is another venue to go to in order to find an escort like I'm looking for, other than this site? I'm not complaining as I did find one here that fit the bill, so that's good.

[Rick Munroe]

>I just don't seem to find that here on the reviews or threads

 

Really? From what I've seen, a lot of reviews mention that the guy was great to talk to, was smart & personable & knowlegable, was a great date at a show or an event. And here in the message center, the few of us escorts who post do so about many different things (books, music, politics, etc) besides sex. I will say this: perhaps more escorts would post & let their personalities shine through here if there weren't the fear of personal attack & word-twisting.

[Guest fukamarine]

>Why can't we have a discussion about someone without it

>boiling down to how "hot" he is (for example about the

>reporters). Physical beauty and/or endowment is just a "quirk

>of nature" and to reduce a man to those terms is truly a

>disservice to him and his accomplishments in life and to his

>true beauty and attractiveness as a gay man, or indeed, as a

>human being.

 

So are you trying to tell us that you would hire an escort who has a face like a can of worms, a small dick and a pot belly - if he was a wonderful conversationalst? I don't think so! Admit it - the "hot" factor is just as important to you as it is to the rest of us.

 

fukamarine

[Will]

Amen, and again, I say, AMEN! But Rick is right: there are plenty of reviews that give a good indication of the escort's ability to provide the kind of company you (and I) are looking for. Some of these I know personally, others only by reputation, but even a high-standard conversationalist like me would, I feel sure, have a great time with: Rick Munroe; Gino Mancuso; Jason Marcus; JeffOH; Dan Dare; Jim NYC; Rod Hagen; and Devon in San Francisco. There are others as well, but I'd have to give it more thought than I have time. Maybe this thread will establish a list of escorts who are brainy and/or cultivated. Why shouldn't we know that? After all, we know about other attractive aspects of them. Some of us are turned OFF by too much below and too little above the neckline. And some of us are turned ON by a lot at the top as well as at the bottom. It's just plain silly to say that the only thing that matters is "hot" as understood in physical attributes. Silly and naive.

[AaronScottDC]

And I wish, VaHawk, that I had more clients like the one your are describing who are interested in me as a person and not just a piece of meat. There certainly is a LOT more to me than my body and my dick. I enjoy the social aspect of meeting clients equally as well, if not more than, the sexual part. However, most guys are just looking or the sex.

 

Aaron Scott DC

http://www.erados.com/AaronScottDC

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/aaronscottdc.html

[+ nycman]

Ahhh...the rekindling of the notorious Wham-Charm Wars!

 

As a self-proclaimed general in the Whammer Army, I have to say I find this all very amusing. Most of all, I think it's funny that the Charmers are always the ones who break the ceasefire.

 

Anyways, for those of you who have missed earlier installments of this drama...let me summarize....

 

Some men hire escort for....god forbid...ONLY SEX (Whammers)

 

Some men hire escorts for companionship and romance.(Charmers)

 

Neither camp really understands the other. They hate us because we "cheapen" the whole escort encounter with primal desire. We think they are idiots who don't understand the simple fundamentals of one of world’s oldest business models.

 

We’ve got to learn to share the playground.

 

The Charmers playing house and the Whammers playing dodge ball.

 

Yes, sometimes the dodge ball will knock over the pretend teapot...but life goes on!

 

Now...can we get back to talking about fucking?

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Hawkster...

 

You & i have discussed this one personally, so you catch my drift when i say this: Escorts who bill themselves simply as sex-machines and leave everything else to wonder eventually burn themselves out and dissapear from the industry without a trace. Guys who build an image of the total package (and are) usually stick around, reaping both amazing clientel & amazing money. It's that simple.

 

As i've said before, why bother doing ANYTHING if you're not going to give it your 110%? Sometimes i think it would be best to put newbie escorts through some sort of training school with final testing at the end of the course. If they fail, they can't work. I have a feeling that that would cut down on some of the fat that this business breeds... Wishful thinking, eh?

 

 

 

Warmest Always,

 

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[Chuck50]

Va Hawk Buddy at least my "Board Buddy" since we have never met, so close but yet so far. I know where you are coming from. I have the ideals as you. I want to know them for who they are and not as much worried about the knotches on the belt. I guess I have picked a few good ones have become somewhat friendly with them and at least try to stay in touch. It's not all about the money or the sex. To me it is about the person and I will be chastized for that if I have to but it is important to me. HUGS Chuck

 

I like to think with the big head lots of the time and yes let the little one make a few decisions HUGS :9

[Donnie]

>I have a feeling that that would cut

>down on some of the fat that this business breeds...

 

Putting Franco on a diet would work too.

[pierrot]

Having just begun watching this forum, I must say I find this conversation surprising. Aren't we all here because we're interested in sex? I'm interested in a number of intellectual subjects as well, but those all have their own web sites and chat rooms, and it's not hard to find people to discuss books or music or politics with. Why would you hire an escort for that? This is not to say that some escorts might not also be intelligent conversationalists, but that's not the business they're in. I also think that there is a kind of snobbery going on here. When posters claim to hire escorts for their intellect instead of their sexual attractions, it is a way of diminishing the sex drive as merely vulgar, while the true esthete values intelligence and culture. It's an inherently puritanical attitude that obfuscates the real reason we're all posting here: we want sex with men. Why should we be ashamed of that? It's nice to have an escort who is intelligent. But if that's the number one consideration, try hanging out at a library, the opera, or a museum. You'll find some interesting people to talk to for free.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Stalker Watch, 9:22 p.m. P.S.T.

 

Suspect was observed slithering from post to post in attempts to commit senseless acts of mirth. Be warned, subject is totally devoid of wit and is a danger to himself and others. Approach subject with your hands palms stretched outward and only attempt communication in small simple sentence said in as calm a voice as possible.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

>There are others as well, but I'd

>have to give it more thought than I have time. Maybe this

>thread will establish a list of escorts who are brainy and/or

>cultivated.

 

I add the following to the pot -- each reviewed by me.

 

Brendan/Sydney

Joey Ciccone

Matt_Vancouver.

[+ Cash4Trash]

Not sure I agree Pierrot. Sex is hottest for me when I have a sense of and like the guy I'm doing it with. If he's bright, has a sense of humor AND looks good I'm going to get into it big league. I don't enjoy giving pleasure to people I don't like or care for in any way.

That said, talking about "caring for" in a one hour escort situation

is delusional. Fuck reality, give me a good fantasy anytime.

[Guest Dan]

>At least the NYC guys will know what I mean. Sometimes, it

>seems that I'm wearing my pinstripes and find myself in "God

>no!, everyone else is dressed in ugly blue and orange, on LI".

>

>

So I guess I won't be running into you at Shea on May 6 when I go see my boyfriend Shawn Green (I wish!) and the Dodgers play the Mets?

 

Dan Dare

http://www.meetlocalmen.com/mlm/dandarela.html

[Guest HairyDomBraz27]

>Escorts who bill themselves simply as

>sex-machines and leave everything else to wonder eventually

>burn themselves out and dissapear from the industry without a

>trace. Guys who build an image of the total package (and are)

>usually stick around, reaping both amazing clientel & amazing

>money. It's that simple.

 

The opposite is true. Escorts who try to give more than just sex - who pretend to be the clients' boyfriend and who pretend to actually like the client as a person (even though they woudln't be with the client if the client weren't giving money) are engaged in a pretense and deceit. They are acting - pretending to be the client's boyfriend when in reality they are just prostitutes.

 

This deceit can last one or two times. But eventually, the client will start getting reality mixed up with the escort's deceit, start expecting more, demanding more, wanting proof that the client is liked. Clients looking for the "full package" are usually unrealistic and lonely and want the escort to be something more than the escort really is. Escorts who agree to play this fake game just for money may profit in the short-term (which is their goal - $$), but eventually, they will be exposed.

 

By contrast, those of us who are HONEST and who make no bones about the fact that we are there to give sex and to FUCK in exchange for money will get more and more calls, more and more customers and more and more longevity. We have no deceit. There is nothing to hide or pretend. Everything we do is REAL - rather than fake - and what is real always endures better and longer than that which is based on deceit.

 

Many escorts feel a need to be more than simply "hot" for one reason - they are NOT hot, so that have to offer something else. I don't think there's anything wrong with it other than the fact that it is inherently deceitful, but it gets me more than a little sick to hear those pretend-actor-I-Love-You-for-2-hours-escorts to act superior and self-righteous about their lies.

[Rick Munroe]

>The opposite is true. Escorts who try to give more than just

>sex - who pretend to be the clients' boyfriend and who pretend

>to actually like the client as a person (even though they

>woudln't be with the client if the client weren't giving

>money) are engaged in a pretense and deceit. They are acting

>- pretending to be the client's boyfriend when in reality they

>are just prostitutes.

 

Neither of you is right ("are right"? Nothing's looking grammatically correct to me today). We're all individuals and you can't generalize & make declarations about which "type" (as if what you're talking about refers to types) of escort is right & which is wrong. Personally, I love to be treated like a sex object (whether top, bottom, or versatile) and it really gets me hot. But I also have a brain & a sense of humor & an open personality so I can't help giving to my partner more than just my body parts. It isn't a matter of me "trying" to be anything other than myself, and I get great pleasure out of giving myself to other people (in that respect, it's actually kind of selfish of me). Anyway, most clients are not as naïve as you make them out to be. And how could anyone think I'm pretending to be their boyfriend when my boyfriend is usually right there with us?

 

And I've said this before...it's very possible to become friends with your clients while still maintaining a business relationship. I've worked for friends in the past, or grew to become frieds with them, and I never asked them to stop paying me my salary because I liked them. Of course, I have not become close with all of my clients, nor is it always fun. Sure, sometimes it's work...we're all human. But I'd say that most (95%) of the time, I meet nice guys & have good times. If that weren't the case, I think it would show & I'd be bitter, don't you?

 

Now, when you gonna make me suck that Brazilian cock, HairyDom? :9

[Guest Hijnx]

Some of these posts and threads seem to always deal in absolutes. When I was a young buck, out sowing my oats freely and willingly, I never thought "I wonder if that guy can talk to me about Proust?" I liked his smile or the way he danced or I imagined how his moustache was going to feel on my balls. So, we would hook up, go home together and fuck like maniacs. In the afterglow, sometimes I'd check out his book shelf, see something interesting and we might talk about it for a while.

I learned a lot about so many things in those post-coital hours: first time I ever heard anything about art nouveau, art deco, Anais Nin, Leonardo di Vinci, architecture, symphonic music, ballet, art films and on and on. It was always like icing on the cake when we'd spend a couple hours into the purple morning talking about "stuff" while we cuddled and nuzzled. Sometimes we remained friends, sometimes I never saw them again.

There were also times when we went home to screw and that's all we did; just rutted like stags, snorting and bellering into the night, got up, wiped off and went home. And it was just as much fun.

There are hundreds of guys on this site. And damn, aren't we the lucky ones to be able to sample all that there is? To each his own, whammers and charmers. (A depiction, by the way, that I liked.)

[KY_TOP]

>There are hundreds of guys on this site. And damn, aren't we

>the lucky ones to be able to sample all that there is? To

>each his own, whammers and charmers. (A depiction, by the

>way, that I liked.)

 

Very well said, lucky ones indeed!

 

I have mixed experiences on this subject. As one who usually hires for 2 hour periods, I find I can usually have some FUN and also get to know the guy a little. Some of my best experiences have been when the Escort and I hit it off so well, time is forgotten and we end up at dinner or in good conversation. I have had a few Lucky experiences like this and I DO include that information in the Escorts review.

 

Just look at my review of Small Town John. Hot sex followed by dinner and then we sat in my car in the Hotel parking lot just talking for a long time. Also, Antonio O'Ryan (Stonie) among others. Then I had a similar time with a certain OC Escort, 2 hour date turned into 4+ hours with dinner and great conversation. My follow up long date crashed and burned.

 

Because I realize that I would also like to occasionally have some companionship in addition to the Sex (a MUST on any date) I am trying to branch out into longer dates. But so far my luck is not too good with long dates, were the cost and risk is greater. My exception has been Tony Cummings, who I have had overnight dates with, a great affectionate companion. We'll spent hours cuddling up in bed, watching TV and talking.

 

Now with all that said, I still would not exchange my GREAT dates of Hot Cum Blowing, Cock Sucking, Ride my cock Fucking Escort experiences for anything.

 

It is still FUN even if warm blood is only flowing through the small head.

[Rick Munroe]

>Hot sex followed

>by dinner and then we sat in my car in the Hotel parking lot

>just talking for a long time.

 

If that were me in the car with you, I'd probably lean over & start blowing you. My first sexual experience was in a car (with Derek, in his father's) doing just that, and I still get hot being in a parked vehicle with a guy (OK, that's not true...I get hot if it's moving, too). }(

[Guest fukamarine]

>Because I realize that I would also like to occasionally have

>some companionship in addition to the Sex (a MUST on any date)

>I am trying to branch out into longer dates. But so far my

>luck is not too good with long dates, were the cost and risk

>is greater. My exception has been Tony Cummings, who I have

>had overnight dates with, a great affectionate companion.

>We'll spent hours cuddling up in bed, watching TV and

>talking.

 

I find it somewhat amusing and more than a little bit pathetic that a grown man could delude himself into thinking that a "date" for which he is paying money (and a LOT of money on an overnite "date"), is in fact a date.

 

fukamarine

[Zeek]

I agree with you. I hire escorts alot but I am looking for that special escort and this is not bassed on sex. If it is just good sex that is fine and I move on but if it is special, someone that makes me fell good and make me laugh and have a good time that is special and I will review them here, If you notice I have only review 3 escorts, that is because they are escorts, all the rest are just someone to get me off. I need someone with a head on there shoulders to make me free like im not with a hustler.

 

Thanks for reading

Zeek

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

You say tomato... I say Wet Platinum or Elbow Grease

 

Different things work for different people... What i offer as an escort isn't fraud or complete fantasy. I'm offering intelligent conversation, intimate encounters and good old fashioned diversion. It's served me very well for the past 9 months and will continue to, as it's a personal choice. A successful personal choice, both in business & friendship.

 

Now, whether it would work for Joe-Shmoe escort is beyond me. Personally, i feel more comfortable doing business this way, as do my guys. What's amazing about success is that it can be achieved a million different ways, but almost never the same way twice.

 

 

Warmest Always,

 

 

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[Guest HairyDomBraz27]

>It's served me very well for the past 9

>months and will continue to, as it's a personal choice. A

>successful personal choice, both in business & friendship.

 

Generally, whenever anyone feels such a need to publicly proclaim how well they are doing, what a "success" they are - it's usually a sure sign that they are wallowing in feelings of deep despair and failure - hence, their need to convince everyone how great they are doing.

 

It's OK, little Benny - we all know . . . you're doing real well.

 

> Now, whether it would work for Joe-Shmoe escort is beyond

>me. Personally, i feel more comfortable doing business this

>way, as do my guys. What's amazing about success is that it

>can be achieved a million different ways, but almost never the

>same way twice.

 

You're a prostitute who sells your body for money, because you need the money. Why not just admit it?

[Zeek]

Benjamin is more than a prostitute. He is a true escort, he may be selling himself but he is selling his whole self not just his body, that is why his clients call him a friend and he calls them a friend. With Benjamin it's like a his family.

 

Benjamin you will always be a friend even after you retire and I hope you don't for a long, long time. People and escort like Benjamin are hard to find.

 

Benjamin cares and that's why you can't call him a prostitute. I have been without a job for 8 month and can't afford to fly or spend time with him like I would like to but he sends emails to see how I am doing and ask about the job search, not that he want my money but because he truly care about me as a person and a friend.

 

And that's the truth.

Zeek

[Donnie]

>Generally, whenever anyone feels such a need to publicly

>proclaim how well they are doing, what a "success" they are -

>it's usually a sure sign that they are wallowing in feelings

>of deep despair and failure - hence, their need to convince

>everyone how great they are doing.

 

I'm confused. Why are you suddenly discussing Franco Desantis?