Wow you guys know how to travel!

[Atlantagaguy]

I am amazed how well traveled this board is! When you travel do you go alone, with your partner, friends or a travel group? Since I don’t have a partner, I tend to go alone or on tour groups. Most of my friends never can get off work when I do. Has anyone taken a Zoom vacation or similar gay tour groups? If you have what are they like and can you go as a single and feel comfortable? I don’t mind traveling alone, except for most Americans seem to question it, I always meet fun people. I would appreciate your comments.

[jjkrkwood]

I am amazed how well traveled this board is! When you travel do you go alone, with your partner, friends or a travel group? Since I don’t have a partner, I tend to go alone or on tour groups. Most of my friends never can get off work when I do. Has anyone taken a Zoom vacation or similar gay tour groups? If you have what are they like and can you go as a single and feel comfortable? I don’t mind traveling alone, except for most Americans seem to question it, I always meet fun people. I would appreciate your comments.

 

I have never been able to coordinate vacations with friends, and when I had a partner for 22 years, our tastes were so different that we never planned a vacation together except once,

which was to Vegas a year before his sudden death. I hate doing things Alone (even eatting out alone makes me cringe), so therefore my traveling has been limited, although I do love traveling, but NOT the flying so much. I have tried tours, but these little groups that exist on tours are hard to infiltrate. You only luck out if there is some needy person in the same position you are, and then chances of you getting along are 50/50....It really depends on your personality, but I have always been a shy person until I get to know you. i know my persona on this board wouldnt support that, but its true. I envy those that can always make the most out of any stuation, but its NOT comfortable for me, and because of that I believe I have missed out on many good and fun things.

[maxwellissmart]

I am amazed how well traveled this board is!

 

And yet so many of them have such poor social skills. The irony.

[citylaw1]

I have never been able to coordinate vacations with friends, and when I had a partner for 22 years, our tastes were so different that we never planned a vacation together except once,

which was to Vegas a year before his sudden death. I hate doing things Alone (even eatting out alone makes me cringe), so therefore my traveling has been limited, although I do love traveling, but NOT the flying so much. I have tried tours, but these little groups that exist on tours are hard to infiltrate. You only luck out if there is some needy person in the same position you are, and then chances of you getting along are 50/50....It really depends on your personality, but I have always been a shy person until I get to know you. i know my persona on this board wouldnt support that, but its true. I envy those that can always make the most out of any stuation, but its NOT comfortable for me, and because of that I believe I have missed out on many good and fun things.

 

 

You are definitely missing out. Pick a place that you want to go, and, believe it or not, post in on Craigslist searching for a non sexual traveling partner. You would be surprised how many people are in the exact same situation as you.

 

I am suffering from a similar situation regarding travel with escorts. Most of my friends are married, and, as everyone knows, arranging travel with friends is often difficult due to finances, schedule, etc. Vacationing with escorts (21-25) is proving less enjoyable each year. Obviously our interests are different, and past the bedroom I feel like daddy for the first time in my life. I often find other couples or single travelers of interest, and I spend a lot of time speaking with them, as they are similar in age, income, etc. Clearly they are all aware of the possible escort/client relationship, sugardaddy, etc. This never used to be an issue when I was younger. At 42, it's out there.

 

Your tastes are more towards older escorts, and you definitely have an option here. Take along an escort that you are interested in, and negotiate an agreeable rate based on the destination. You will eventually find someone that is agreeable, if this is a situation that you're comfortable with.

[rguer]

And yet so many of them have such poor social skills. The irony.

 

Online social skills don't always translate to in-person social skills, and vice versa.

 

If we had been sitting around as a group in a hotel lobby, would you have made the same remark about us, that many of us don't know how to behave? There's some kind of irony there also,I think.

[citylaw1]

Online social skills don't always translate to in-person social skills, and vice versa.

 

If we had been sitting around as a group in a hotel lobby, would you have made the same remark about us, that many of us don't know how to behave? There's some kind of irony there also,I think.

 

I suspect that you are correct in your observations. I bet that most of the aggressive prose here would translate into quiet knitting in the hotel lobby.

[maxwellissmart]

Online social skills don't always translate to in-person social skills, and vice versa.

 

If we had been sitting around as a group in a hotel lobby, would you have made the same remark about us, that many of us don't know how to behave? There's some kind of irony there also,I think.

 

I disagree—I think online behavior is very much an indicator of the social skills someone does, or does not have. Regardless, this makes me guilty of hijacking the thread.

 

Back to the topic of traveling—I'm impressed by the number of countries I've seen mentioned, and I think that it's cool that so many people on this board who are obviously older still have the love for seeing other people and places. I think that's important, especially when you never know how long a place or culture may continue to exist.

[Phlmuscle]

When I take a vacation I always go on Globus trips. I have never been on one where the people weren't friendly. You are almost forced into meeting others because the group is usually small, and dining is usually with the group. Plus a Globus host travels with you, and encourages everyone to intermingle. There are always singles on the trip both male and female. Give it a try. You won't be sorry. I have never had a bad trip with Globus.

[Decatur Guy]

I've sharply curtailed my travel in the past five years for a variety of reasons.

 

Before that, I usually had no trouble finding folks to go on trips with. Now, it is getting more difficult because I've been off the circuit for awhile, so to speak.

 

I've never been on a tour group and under the right kind of plan would like to try that. But they are usually so expensive. I'd like to do a walking tour or a bicycling tour, but the cost is easily double what I would pay for on my own.

[maxwellissmart]

When I take a vacation I always go on Globus trips. I have never been on one where the people weren't friendly. You are almost forced into meeting others because the group is usually small, and dining is usually with the group. Plus a Globus host travels with you, and encourages everyone to intermingle. There are always singles on the trip both male and female. Give it a try. You won't be sorry. I have never had a bad trip with Globus.

 

I read this as "Google Trips" and was like: damn, those people do everything now. This is one of the reasons I'd like to take a cruise with a couple of guided shore excursions.

[unsub2O17]

What about visiting an interesting area where the escort (you want to be with) already lives? Has such a thing been tried? The escort could serve as both a companion and a guide to his area. Sure, he would charge for his time, but would the age difference be as much of an issue? Here's an example that comes to mind. What if you've never really visited Washington, D. C. or New York City and want to tour it. Could you arrange with one of the fine escorts in one of those cities to stay with him, have him act as a tour guide, companion, ETC. for you. Establish a global fee and other rules for his time with you. And off you go? I've never heard of using the escort's home base as the travel destination, but why not??

[jjkrkwood]

You are definitely missing out. Pick a place that you want to go, and, believe it or not, post in on Craigslist searching for a non sexual traveling partner. You would be surprised how many people are in the exact same situation as you.

 

I am suffering from a similar situation regarding travel with escorts. Most of my friends are married, and, as everyone knows, arranging travel with friends is often difficult due to finances, schedule, etc. Vacationing with escorts (21-25) is proving less enjoyable each year. Obviously our interests are different, and past the bedroom I feel like daddy for the first time in my life. I often find other couples or single travelers of interest, and I spend a lot of time speaking with them, as they are similar in age, income, etc. Clearly they are all aware of the possible escort/client relationship, sugardaddy, etc. This never used to be an issue when I was younger. At 42, it's out there.

 

Your tastes are more towards older escorts, and you definitely have an option here. Take along an escort that you are interested in, and negotiate an agreeable rate based on the destination. You will eventually find someone that is agreeable, if this is a situation that you're comfortable with.

 

City, all great suggestions. Unfortunately, i am not in the financial stratosphere to afford taking an escort with me. Nor would I want/need to since I never have any problem finding sex wherever I go, and certainly wouldnt want to being paying for a strangers vacay.. The Craigslist search is an option, but I have always thought that throwing yourself into ANY situation with strangers is limiting and awkward, but I guess no more so than the self imposed limitations which result in life passing me by. Thank you for your suggestions. I may just give it a try...

[jjkrkwood]

Online social skills don't always translate to in-person social skills, and vice versa.

 

If we had been sitting around as a group in a hotel lobby, would you have made the same remark about us, that many of us don't know how to behave? There's some kind of irony there also,I think.

 

You mean you THINK people might actually LIKE ME if they met me in person ? :o:o

[maxwellissmart]

You mean you THINK people might actually LIKE ME if they met me in person ? :o:o

 

I think there's probably something likable about everyone who posts on this board. It's whether or not they choose to let other people see that quality and how often. That's actually one of the best things about meeting people via escorting—there's a number of men I've gotten to have great talks with, who I wouldn't meet otherwise.

[+ azdr0710]

What about visiting an interesting area where the escort (you want to be with) already lives?

 

I'm trying to set something like that up right now with a popular guy in Chicago.....I very much also like just hanging out with a guy I "hire", chatting, and I love walking, so I may get an expensive walking tour out of this....

[maxwellissmart]

I am amazed how well traveled this board is! When you travel do you go alone, with your partner, friends or a travel group? Since I don’t have a partner, I tend to go alone or on tour groups. Most of my friends never can get off work when I do. Has anyone taken a Zoom vacation or similar gay tour groups? If you have what are they like and can you go as a single and feel comfortable? I don’t mind traveling alone, except for most Americans seem to question it, I always meet fun people. I would appreciate your comments.

 

Since we're on the topic of traveling—what pleasant surprise from another culture have you incorporated into your life as a result of traveling?

 

Mine is desire for foreign potato chips and Beroca.

[jjkrkwood]

I read this as "Google Trips" and was like: damn, those people do everything now. This is one of the reasons I'd like to take a cruise with a couple of guided shore excursions.

 

I did once take a Gay "Pillage and Plunder" cruise, after always Hating cruises and travelling alone. but I figured, hey, what the fuck, 1500 Horny gay men all thrown together, what could be bad ? Outcome is: I still hate cruises, and no longer travel alone. If you are not in a little clique (at least on the gay cruise) you ARE alone even with 1500 guys.....

[maxwellissmart]

I did once take a Gay "Pillage and Plunder" cruise, after always Hating cruises and travelling alone. but I figured, hey, what the fuck, 1500 Horny gay men all thrown together, what could be bad ? Outcome is: I still hate cruises, and no longer travel alone. If you are not in a little clique (at least on the gay cruise) you ARE alone even with 1500 guys.....

 

I'd only do a gay cruise with a friend or two, not a partner.

[ragazzolupo]

I sometimes travel alone for pleasure (almost always alone for business—unless I have a business colleague), and while I occasionally get a little lonely or wish I had a dinner companion, I also have great experiences meeting locals or other travelers that I don’t think that I would have if I were traveling with a “mate.” I have a couple of travel partners that I like to go with, both are gay, both of them have a “history” with me, but we do not have sex at this point. I also love to travel with the right escort. The only one that I currently would see anytime is Alexio in Rome. I have now had three trips in Italy out of Rome with him and I see him for extended time anytime that I am in Rome. I was thinking this morning of an excuse to go to Italy, just so I could travel with Alexio. I have tried tours and groups, but I am a bit independent for that and I like to take off on my own adventures. That’s why Alexio is so great, he loves to scrap the plans and we just change up everything.

 

Within reason I can push my schedule around and many of my friends in my age group or younger cannot travel so much. Usually because of time, but sometimes because of money.

[unsub2O17]

I'm trying to set something like that up right now with a popular guy in Chicago.....I very much also like just hanging out with a guy I "hire", chatting, and I love walking, so I may get an expensive walking tour out of this....

 

I am most curious about this approach. It sounds like you have the same idea. Please either PM me or let us know how this works out.

[bigvalboy]

I disagree—I think online behavior is very much an indicator of the social skills someone does, or does not have. Regardless, this makes me guilty of hijacking the thread.

 

Back to the topic of traveling—I'm impressed by the number of countries I've seen mentioned, and I think that it's cool that so many people on this board who are obviously older still have the love for seeing other people and places. I think that's important, especially when you never know how long a place or culture may continue to exist.

 

Ok I am gonna Hijack here for one minute before I run off to book travel plans..literally. Just to make my point. What you read on line from me is who I am. I don't, nor do I think I could change persona's if I wanted to. No knitting in a hotel lobby for me. When people meet me for the first time, I think the guys from PS and certainly Daddy can confirm, that my personality is the same on line as it is in person.

 

If I like you, fantastic, but if I think that you are not a nice person, I would be quick to say that to anyones face, and I would be prepared for you to defend your actions. Whew...ok my little venting is over...off to AAA to book airfare.

 

AND to the topic at hand, yes I think that travel is the great educator. When I first started traveling I was a fairly cocky American. It didn't take but one trip to Asia and Europe to make me realize that this planet is filled with a multitude of people that are kind, loving and generous, and not everyone on the planet wants or needs to be like us. My father traveled into his 90's. The last time at 93, I took him on a cruise to the Mediterranean, he was the hit of the ship. Before that trip was over, everyone on board knew my dad. I intend to travel until I physically can not do it anymore, Cheers to all, BVB

[Poolboy21409]

I would love to be able to do a weekend hire with a great escort in a fine city like Chicago or New York or even DC but unfortunately I can't he trip and the expenses and the escort for the entire weekend. My "retirement" job doesn't pay that well.

[rguer]

Vacationing with escorts (21-25) is proving less enjoyable each year. Obviously our interests are different, and past the bedroom I feel like daddy for the first time in my life. I often find other couples or single travelers of interest, and I spend a lot of time speaking with them, as they are similar in age, income, etc. Clearly they are all aware of the possible escort/client relationship, sugardaddy, etc. This never used to be an issue when I was younger. At 42, it's out there.

 

 

42? Young whippersnapper, you just wait another 25 years.

 

Actually, at that point people will just think you're traveling with your grandchild.

[citylaw1]

City, all great suggestions. Unfortunately, i am not in the financial stratosphere to afford taking an escort with me. Nor would I want/need to since I never have any problem finding sex wherever I go, and certainly wouldnt want to being paying for a strangers vacay.. The Craigslist search is an option, but I have always thought that throwing yourself into ANY situation with strangers is limiting and awkward, but I guess no more so than the self imposed limitations which result in life passing me by. Thank you for your suggestions. I may just give it a try...

 

I don't enjoy the overnights or travel with an escort anymore, for much of the same reasons that you mention. Where would you like to go Mr. Kirkwood? I love to drink, eat dinner out, chat with bartenders and bullshit with strangers to no end. I am thinking about Barcelona, a combination of Rome and Florence, or Maui.

 

On a side note, I bet a nice traveling interest group could be formed in the Forums here.

[jjkrkwood]

I don't enjoy the overnights or travel with an escort anymore, for much of the same reasons that you mention. Where would you like to go Mr. Kirkwood? I love to drink, eat dinner out, chat with bartenders and bullshit with strangers to no end. I am thinking about Barcelona, a combination of Rome and Florence, or Maui.

 

On a side note, I bet a nice traveling interest group could be formed in the Forums here.

 

I have my heart set on Australia one day. I actually had this planned almost 11 years ago, when my partner fell ill and passed away within the week. Australia became a distant dream, and today I cant even imagine taking a 24+ hr flight ALONE.....So I just watch alot of videos about Koalas, and Hot aussie guys (who ALL seem to be VERY endowed).