A Weighty Issue

[maxwellissmart]

"Remember, you are a prostitute no matter how hard you try to spin it." Needless to say, I stopped responding after that rude comment. Completely uncalled for and unnecessary. I've NEVER been told that before! Ouch.

 

"I think of myself as a dick engineer—I work with two types: mine, and you."

[maxwellissmart]

Was cum in the hair a reference to the Ricky Gervais stand up act? Description of the segment below (copied from http://www.pilkipedia.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Politics):

 

At one point, Gervais reads from his “favourite leaflet” which suggests 10 tips for homosexual men to avoid contracting HIV. The leaflet is entitled, “You know, you don’t always have to have anal sex.” Through breaks of laughter, Gervais reads the following 5 out of 10 of the suggested alternatives.

1. Why not just wank each other off?

2. Why not cum on his back?

3. Why not cum in his hair?

4. Why not cum into a piece of fruit, e.g. Watermelon.

10. Why not both cum out of a window?

 

No, every girl I've ever known has always been horrified to have a man get cum in her hair because it's hard to remove.

[Kevin Slater]

No, every girl I've ever known has always been horrified to have a man get cum in her hair because it's hard to remove.

 

What's that great Bette Davis line? "I'd like to kiss you, but I just washed my hair."

 

Kevin Slater

[unsub2O17]

What's that great Bette Davis line? "I'd like to kiss you, but I just washed my hair."

 

Kevin Slater

 

Never heard that! Great line.

[raulgmanzo]

... Some fantastic escorts (i.e. Dave in DC, Master Avery, Raoul) didn't care at all and even made me feel great about myself.

 

Awww shucks thanks! I know you mean me even though I spell my name Raul. But I like the spelling Raoul as it reminds me of Raoul Wallenberg who has been a hero of mine forever.

 

Keep up the good work Erie, but know that we'll always have fun no matter what your "stats".

 

Raul

http://rentmen.com/raulgmanzo

http://daddysreviews.com/review/raul_g_chicago

[orbital sander]

I hate the "wanted now" postings. I had one guy post on there who claimed he could only afford $90/hour and wanted THREE hours. Funny, cause he sees people all the time....so either they are willing to get the significantly reduced rate OR he's successful with those low rates, who knows.

 

Maybe he lost most of this month's SS Check at the slot machines...

[SteveEscort]

 

I'm not 380 lbs, but I am significantly overweight. It never occurred to me to ask escorts about weight limits until about a year after I started hiring. Then I met an escort who had trouble getting hard and blamed it on my weight. I thought to myself, "If you can only get it up for guys you find attractive, then you are in the wrong business." I wish I would've said it out loud.

 

 

I tend to see more overweight guys than not. It doesn't bother me, in fact I prefer bigger build blokes to skinny weedy things.

 

In 2006 I got to my highest weight ever, I was 19st 3, which is 269 pounds. I wasn't escorting at the time because I took on a full time management job in Edinburgh and I was working until 9pm sometimes. I ate crappy food because I was on the go all of the time. I did used to see a few old regulars during that time when I could fit them in and one of them mentioned how I had ballooned and I was embarrassed and felt I needed to leave the appointment as quick as possible. I felt physically sick. Over the space of a year I lost over 84 pounds (6 stone) and I am now at a comfortable 196 pounds (14 stone) which is pefect for my height and build. The BMI stats are nothing but a load of old rubbish. They reckon I should be about 12 stone (168 pounds) but at that weight I would be emaciated, I would look gaunt and unwell.

[Terpmaniac]

Interesting. Its kinda funny how we all have our own personal insecurities if you will. Now with me, its not weight(I may be opening up a pandora's box here)but race. I am black(yes thats my ass in the profile pic)in pretty good shape if I may say so myself, not bad looking(I have my moments like everyone ). But I tend to feel alot more secure hiring masseurs then escorts because I am not sure if they see clients outside their own race. I dont have a clue if most do or don't..like I said the insecurity is on my end, not his. But it does keep me from hiring escorts. If more said in their ads (race unimportant) I might feel a bit more comfortable. Like I said, I think its more my issue then his.

 

Terp

[jjkrkwood]

Interesting. Its kinda funny how we all have our own personal insecurities if you will. Now with me, its not weight(I may be opening up a pandora's box here)but race. I am black(yes thats my ass in the profile pic)in pretty good shape if I may say so myself, not bad looking(I have my moments like everyone ). But I tend to feel alot more secure hiring masseurs then escorts because I am not sure if they see clients outside their own race. I dont have a clue if most do or don't..like I said the insecurity is on my end, not his. But it does keep me from hiring escorts. If more said in their ads (race unimportant) I might feel a bit more comfortable. Like I said, I think its more my issue then his.

 

Terp

 

Terp, with an ASS like THAT, I dont think it would be an issue for anyone AT ALL ???:o

[BostonPhil]

Interesting. Its kinda funny how we all have our own personal insecurities if you will. Now with me, its not weight(I may be opening up a pandora's box here)but race. I am black(yes thats my ass in the profile pic)in pretty good shape if I may say so myself, not bad looking(I have my moments like everyone ). But I tend to feel alot more secure hiring masseurs then escorts because I am not sure if they see clients outside their own race. I dont have a clue if most do or don't..like I said the insecurity is on my end, not his. But it does keep me from hiring escorts. If more said in their ads (race unimportant) I might feel a bit more comfortable. Like I said, I think its more my issue then his.

 

Terp

 

You can always ask. Be prepared for both answers though. I actually never thought about putting this in my ad, it's something that never mattered to me and I guess I thought people would be over that by now. Read 'people' as escorts, I don't know how you could make it turning people down based on race.

 

I agree with JJ, it is a nice bum

[Lookin]

Terp, with an ASS like THAT, I dont think it would be an issue for anyone AT ALL ???:o

 

Indeed! Keeping that treasure out of circulation is almost a crime against nature! http://www.maleescortreview.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/whistle.png

[jjkrkwood]

Terp, MY face has been "custom padded" for your sitting comfort. :D

[bigvalboy]

Interesting. Its kinda funny how we all have our own personal insecurities if you will. Now with me, its not weight(I may be opening up a pandora's box here)but race. I am black(yes thats my ass in the profile pic)in pretty good shape if I may say so myself, not bad looking(I have my moments like everyone ). But I tend to feel alot more secure hiring masseurs then escorts because I am not sure if they see clients outside their own race. I dont have a clue if most do or don't..like I said the insecurity is on my end, not his. But it does keep me from hiring escorts. If more said in their ads (race unimportant) I might feel a bit more comfortable. Like I said, I think its more my issue then his.

 

Terp

 

Hey Terp, Funny you should mention that. I was turned down by an escort, that is extremely popular on this site and has been raved about many times before, just a couple of days ago because of race. It was the first time in 30+ years that an escort as ever asked me. We texted back and forth, all very pleasant, and we set a time. An hour before the meet he texted me and asked me to describe myself. Being a little naive, I described height, weight, age, eye color and told him a little about myself and personal outside interests. He texted back and said, "No I need to make sure you are not Black" I texted him back and said, "Well I am, so I think we should end this before I say something that I might regret" and that was the end of it. Going forward, since it was the first time that it has happened, I am a little confused. Should I now volunteer that information, or just keep on doing what I have been doing in the past?

 

At any rate, enjoyed your honesty. Cheers, BVB

[tyro]

Wow. Just...wow. Whoda thunk it was 2012?

[bigvalboy]

Wow. Just...wow. Whoda thunk it was 2012?

 

I know right....WTF...I hung up just a little dazed by the whole incident...

[seeker630]

Hey Terp, Funny you should mention that. I was turned down by an escort, that is extremely popular on this site and has been raved about many times before, just a couple of days ago because of race. It was the first time in 30+ years that an escort as ever asked me. We texted back and forth, all very pleasant, and we set a time. An hour before the meet he texted me and asked me to describe myself. Being a little naive, I described height, weight, age, eye color and told him a little about myself and personal outside interests. He texted back and said, "No I need to make sure you are not Black" I texted him back and said, "Well I am, so I think we should end this before I say something that I might regret" and that was the end of it. Going forward, since it was the first time that it has happened, I am a little confused. Should I now volunteer that information, or just keep on doing what I have been doing in the past?

 

At any rate, enjoyed your honesty. Cheers, BVB

 

You'd think that anyone who has limits on the clientele he is willing to serve would note the exclusions in his ad - but he probably knows he would lose other clients as well.

 

Better to find out before you actually meet the guy!

[bigvalboy]

You'd think that anyone who has limits on the clientele he is willing to serve would note the exclusions in his ad - but he probably knows he would lose other clients as well.

 

Better to find out before you actually meet the guy!

 

I can't imagine him mentioning that in an ad...I would think that it would have a severe impact on his business. What scares me is that it is impossible to tell that I am Black. What if we were in the middle of great sex and in just passing casual conversation he said something derogatory about Blacks or Mexicans, not knowing who he was in bed with. What to do then? Do you get up and leave, and risk making him angry that he was in bed with someone that he hated, potentially creating possibly a dangerous or hostel situation, or just not say anything and let the session end naturally?

 

I wouldn't want to cross that bridge. Either way it is a bad situation.

[raulgmanzo]

I find it odd that race would matter to an escort. Race is not really even meaningful as we humans are ALL the same SUBspecies, Homo Sapiens SAPIENS. As wikipedia says "race has no toxonomic significance in humans" or something like that.

 

A client need not describe their race any more than their hair color. But some do and along with any other stats do whatever you feel like at the time.

 

When a new client books an appointment with me I sometimes form a mental picture of what they might look like. But it makes me just laugh inside because I am so very often completely wrong. Which doesn't matter because I like people in their near infinite variety.

 

 

Hey Terp, Funny you should mention that. I was turned down by an escort, that is extremely popular on this site and has been raved about many times before, just a couple of days ago because of race. It was the first time in 30+ years that an escort as ever asked me. We texted back and forth, all very pleasant, and we set a time. An hour before the meet he texted me and asked me to describe myself. Being a little naive, I described height, weight, age, eye color and told him a little about myself and personal outside interests. He texted back and said, "No I need to make sure you are not Black" I texted him back and said, "Well I am, so I think we should end this before I say something that I might regret" and that was the end of it. Going forward, since it was the first time that it has happened, I am a little confused. Should I now volunteer that information, or just keep on doing what I have been doing in the past?

 

At any rate, enjoyed your honesty. Cheers, BVB

[jjkrkwood]

Wow. Just...wow. Whoda thunk it was 2012?

 

Its NOT suprising to me one bit, even in 2012 that people have particular and specific "racial" preferences when it comes to sex. Keep in mind Ty, thats its the escorts job to be "turned on" and provide a sucksessful and satisfying session for the client. In all fairness, if a particular escort cannot get tunred on by a certain race or type, its best to know before the session is arranged.

It makes perfect sense to me, and doesnt give me ANY indication that the particular individual has any racist tendency. While clients will often question a potential escort, I see no reason why an escort shouldnt be able to do the same. Not sure what BVB found offensive about his communication ? I think it was more about being politically "correct" on his part, but thats just IMO....

[bigvalboy]

I find it odd that race would matter to an escort. Race is not really even meaningful as we humans are ALL the same SUBspecies, Homo Sapiens SAPIENS. As wikipedia says "race has no toxonomic significance in humans" or something like that.

 

Of course you would find it odd Raul, that is because you are a well grounded, intelligent person who looks at the world as most educated intelligent people do. But you must remember, not everyone is like that. Many people, some right here among us, still hold on to hateful prejudices from decades ago, and twist and spin serious conversation into meaningless nonsense.

 

 

 

A client need not describe their race any more than their hair color. But some do and along with any other stats do whatever you feel like at the time.

 

I did describe my stats. Yes, I am a little naive when it comes to that sort of conversation. I don't surround myself or normally engage in conversation with people that have that mindset. So for me I just thought he was trying to get to know me better...LOL.

 

When a new client books an appointment with me I sometimes form a mental picture of what they might look like. But it makes me just laugh inside because I am so very often completely wrong. Which doesn't matter because I like people in their near infinite variety.

 

If only others in this world could be so open minded in how they viewed one another. I would venture to guess that many of the racial issues that permeate society, and that sadly, seemingly intelligent people continue to turn a blind eye to, would be diluted to a point were it would become a none issue with our children and their children as well. For someone to ignore the fact that these issues do not have a profound effect on the quality of society is really very sad to me.

 

Of course, you and I will have a nice meal in Chicago and a nice bottle of wine and we can hash all of this out. I am so looking forward to seeing you again, along with a table surrounded by good and decent friends....

 

Stay well,

 

Bob

[jjkrkwood]

 

If only others in this world could be so open minded in how they viewed one another. I would venture to guess that many of the racial issues that permeate society, and that sadly, seemingly intelligent people continue to turn a blind eye to, would be diluted to a point were it would become a none issue with our children and their children as well. For someone to ignore the fact that these issues do not have a profound effect on the quality of society is really very sad to me.

 

 

 

Being open minded is QUITE different than having preferences when you hire an escort, or enter into any kind of relationship with another person. Not being attracted to black men or not wanting to have sex with them does NOT equate to being a bigot. It is likened to men NOT being attracted to twinks, muscleheads or any other specific TYPE of person. When you surf the escort websites, everyone is first looking for that initial attraction. I dont see WHY everyone is making such a big deal over this, and at the same time calling for people to be open minded. Why cant you jus accept people have NO attraction to certain things ? You cant force a guy to get a boner over another guy he has no attaraction to, and that attraction can come in the form of color, size, age, ethnicity, whatever. I dont think any well educated, well adjusted person here would condone racial intolerance or hatred, but that is NOT the issue at hand. If BVB read more into his communication with the proposed escort for some reason, he either a) did not make that part of the conversation clear to us readers or b) was perhaps dealing with issues of his own ? I personally would not have been offended by the encounter that took place between him and the guy.

[down_to_business]

Being open minded is QUITE different than having preferences when you hire an escort, or enter into any kind of relationship with another person. Not being attracted to black men or not wanting to have sex with them does NOT equate to being a bigot. It is likened to men NOT being attracted to twinks, muscleheads or any other specific TYPE of person. When you surf the escort websites, everyone is first looking for that initial attraction. I dont see WHY everyone is making such a big deal over this, and at the same time calling for people to be open minded. Why cant you jus accept people have NO attraction to certain things ? You cant force a guy to get a boner over another guy he has no attaraction to, and that attraction can come in the form of color, size, age, ethnicity, whatever. I dont think any well educated, well adjusted person here would condone racial intolerance or hatred, but that is NOT the issue at hand. If BVB read more into his communication with the proposed escort for some reason, he either a) did not make that part of the conversation clear to us readers or b) was perhaps dealing with issues of his own ? I personally would not have been offended by the encounter that took place between him and the guy.

 

I respectfully disagree. When anyone uses another's race as the basis for not taking them on as a client, that person is a racist. This is far from saying that every person has to be attracted to every other person. It is just what it is.

[maxwellissmart]

I respectfully disagree. When anyone uses another's race as the basis for not taking them on as a client, that person is a racist. This is far from saying that every person has to be attracted to every other person. It is just what it is.

 

I think it's a blurry area—since one needs to examine the root issue that is leading to the lack of attraction. If there is contempt or a feeling that the person is inferior somehow—then I would absolutely agree that racism is a factor. If it's just a preference based on sexual attraction, then not so much. I personally don't find most Asian guys to be attractive, but I think Asian women are usually stunning. You could call me a racist, and I'd have to take the black dick out of my mouth to issue a rebuttal.

[seeker630]

I think it's a blurry area—since one needs to examine the root issue that is leading to the lack of attraction. If there is contempt or a feeling that the person is inferior somehow—then I would absolutely agree that racism is a factor. If it's just a preference based on sexual attraction, then not so much. I personally don't find most Asian guys to be attractive, but I think Asian women are usually stunning. You could call me a racist, and I'd have to take the black dick out of my mouth to issue a rebuttal.

 

I agree that lack of sexual attraction does not necessarily mean racism, and our individual tastes are complex things.

 

I do think that the best escorts can transcend their own personal preferences.

[maxwellissmart]

I agree that lack of sexual attraction does not necessarily mean racism, and our individual tastes are complex things.

 

I do think that the best escorts can transcend their own personal preferences.

 

Of course, a lack of experience with Asian men may have something to do with it as well—I might have seen 5 clients total who were Japanese, Korean, or Chinese. I don't think I've ever seen anyone from Vietnam or Thailand. And the last Asian client I saw was great the first time, and such a complete disaster the second that I doubt I'll ever be contacted by him again.