Does Anyone Get "Off" on Chloroform Wrestling Matches?

[bcohen7719]

Is this a weird fetish on my part, or does anyone

else find this a bit interesting?

 

BC

 

 

 

http://www.nrwrestling.com/trailers/356-Trailer.htm

[MsGuy]

You do understand this is faked, right?

[Diverdan]

Even though I know it is all faked, it is still hard to watch, and is certainly not sexy or stimulating from my perspective. Nothing sexy about this kind of action.

[seeker630]

Even though I know it is all faked, it is still hard to watch, and is certainly not sexy or stimulating from my perspective. Nothing sexy about this kind of action.

 

I found it hard to watch initially, but after a minute or 2, I started watching for the 'acting' - like the way they coordinate a body punch with a stomp on the mat to produce an impact sound.

 

I kept waiting for some sex to occur but....

 

Obviously not my thing but then I'm not into pain or bondage.

[+ tristanbaldwin]

Although I have not personally seen any 'chloroform clients', I assure you- they exist in a fairly large number. A good friend of mine is an escort in Boston who had a VERY shaky experience, with someone who wanted to be knocked out with starter ether on a rag...only to find himself tied up to a chair...with the escort waving his rock-hard penis back and forth in front of his face, threatening to fuck him with it.

 

That sort of anxiety and helplessness I can totally understand...the ending to this story scared my buddy half to death. The client who provided the aforementioned rag and ether...ended up going into some sort of seizures from it, and nearly swallowed his own tongue. The escort was put in a risky dilemma- do you call 911 and risk what sort of drama that might open up? Do you stay there with him, and help him through it? If you stay there and he dies...what THEN?! I ended up getting a phone call in the middle of this session from my friend, asking me to document every single part of what occured, in the event he ended up getting arrested...that way, I'd have access to his emails to show that he was REQUESTED to provide this kind of a service.

 

Even when requested, it could still easily wind up a manslaughter charge- that's the reason I really shy away from the choke out sessions. I've got a guy I do chokeouts with on the West Coast, he taps me out, I tap him out...but he's a pro, so he kinda knows what the limits are...

[JT Brooklyn]

Is this a weird fetish on my part, or does anyone

else find this a bit interesting?

 

BC

 

 

 

http://www.nrwrestling.com/trailers/356-Trailer.htm

 

The Chloraoform Scenario is also used on one of the "Frank The Tank Defao" sites. Of course alot more goes on after the Chloroform is administered!

 

I do find it does tickle my Fetish Bone!

 

BUT the NRW Site Videos have a sameness to them overall..IMHO of course!

[raulgmanzo]

Good points and good reasons to avoid such dangerous activities.

But never be afraid to call 911 if something dangerous happens that those present cannot handle.

 

It wouldn't be the first time that kinky lovers needed to call the paramedics. They will respect that you called for help. And there is no reason to expect that the authorities will come in expecting you to be a bad guy. Often quite the opposite especially if you make it clear from the beginning that you are the one that called them and that you WANT their help.

 

Legal trouble in the event of death or injury is of course a good reason to avoid the scene in the first place. But once it is done calling 911 is not going to make anything worse IMHO. You can bet that ALL the information pertaining to your being there is going to come out in any investigation should a death happen. Actually calling 911 promptly might help establish that any injury was unintended.

 

I had an experience where I called the police and they started to raise eyebrows and question me

and I very firmly, politely but bluntly told them that I was the one who dialed 911 and would answer their questions, entertain their curiosity, and accept their advice after we took care of the urgency at hand.

 

The police actually handled that very well and took care of the situation. Then I made a point of specifically readdressing their queries which they seemed to respect even though I think they had initially decided I was a scary queer nut case.

 

That was one of a few experiences in my life which has made me see the police as human, and often quite reasonable considering the huge variety of craziness with which they must deal. It also helped that I spent a year as a volunteer neighborhood representative to the police. We were at odds often but I got to learn some of the things that they respected versus things that made them nervous.

 

Oh and some police and paramedics are way hot, open minded and smarter than one might think.

 

Although I have not personally seen any 'chloroform clients', I assure you- they exist in a fairly large number. A good friend of mine is an escort in Boston who had a VERY shaky experience, with someone who wanted to be knocked out with starter ether on a rag...only to find himself tied up to a chair...with the escort waving his rock-hard penis back and forth in front of his face, threatening to fuck him with it.

 

That sort of anxiety and helplessness I can totally understand...the ending to this story scared my buddy half to death. The client who provided the aforementioned rag and ether...ended up going into some sort of seizures from it, and nearly swallowed his own tongue. The escort was put in a risky dilemma- do you call 911 and risk what sort of drama that might open up? Do you stay there with him, and help him through it? If you stay there and he dies...what THEN?! I ended up getting a phone call in the middle of this session from my friend, asking me to document every single part of what occured, in the event he ended up getting arrested...that way, I'd have access to his emails to show that he was REQUESTED to provide this kind of a service.

 

Even when requested, it could still easily wind up a manslaughter charge- that's the reason I really shy away from the choke out sessions. I've got a guy I do chokeouts with on the West Coast, he taps me out, I tap him out...but he's a pro, so he kinda knows what the limits are...

[nate_sf]

I've done this with a couple of clients but it's been role-playing, not using the real stuff. One guy had that spray popper stuff and it made the scene reasonably convincing. He had me come into the hotel room posed as a maintenance man, then subdue him and tie him up. I think as Tristan mentions, this is a more common fetish than some might think. I would not want to do it with anything that could do the job for real though.

[+ glutes]

Chloroform booth at Folsom Street Fair I did not see...

 

After reading this thread, I feel as though I have just fallen off the turnip truck. Chloroform wrestling, and Chloroform clients 'exist in fairly large number'?

Living in SF I've seen and heard a lot, the weirdest was a neighbor who admired to insert frozen fish in his rectum. And leave them.

Where does one buy Chloroform???

[+ purplekow]

After reading this thread, I feel as though I have just fallen off the turnip truck. Chloroform wrestling, and Chloroform clients 'exist in fairly large number'?

Living in SF I've seen and heard a lot, the weirdest was a neighbor who admired to insert frozen fish in his rectum. And leave them.

Where does one buy Chloroform???

Choloroformatorium GasRUs Bed Gas and Beyond?

 

 

From Wikipedia "Chloroform once appeared in toothpastes, cough syrups, ointments, and other pharmaceuticals, but it has been banned as a consumer product in the US since 1976.[26] Cough syrups containing Chloroform can still be legally purchased in pharmacies and supermarkets in the UK."

[leigh.bess.toad]

I'm sorry. Maybe I'm still too new. But to me this seems a bit odd. Quite a bit. Like asphyxiation. For the life of me, I just can't see the interest in this one. I'm not judging it, I just don't understand the attraction. What does being knocked out do for someone? Can anyone explain it?

[+ purplekow]

Clearly each person's interest is different, but i think that most who enjoy this are enticed by the idea of someone becoming powerless and being forced to do something. That the person being subdued is a hot muscular young man wearing little if anything adds to the attraction. I do not enjoy the chloroform aspects and in fact I find it distracting but I do like wrestling videos especially with bigger guys.

[Phil_musc]

It's not you, Lee. I've been around a while now (snicker) and it totally goes past me. And am I the only one who thought the participants in the video weren't all that hot? If they are able to make a living in the adult industry, then America is still the land of opportunity. I plan to hang out my shingle - there must be a market for my type too and god knows I could use the money.

[jackboy48]

This has to be a sick prank

 

 

Even when requested, it could still easily wind up a manslaughter charge- that's the reason I really shy away from the choke out sessions. I've got a guy I do chokeouts with on the West Coast, he taps me out, I tap him out...but he's a pro, so he kinda knows what the limits are...

 

What kind of "pro" taps people out, Jeffrey Dahmer?, and he "kinda" knows the limits??? Please tell me this whole sick thread is some sort of prank!, or are there that many disturbed sickos on this forum?

[seeker630]

What kind of "pro" taps people out, Jeffrey Dahmer?, and he "kinda" knows the limits??? Please tell me this whole sick thread is some sort of prank!, or are there that many disturbed sickos on this forum?

 

it doesn't appeal to me at all, but as long as its consensual and no one gets hurt, I don't feel entitled to call it's practitioners 'sickos'. Remember - There are lots of people who judge homosexual acts to be 'sick'.

[+ azdr0710]

What kind of "pro" taps people out, Jeffrey Dahmer?, and he "kinda" knows the limits??? Please tell me this whole sick thread is some sort of prank!, or are there that many disturbed sickos on this forum?

 

maybe I'm misunderstanding, but do you know what "tap out" means??....

[RM]

Interesting that the No Rules Wrestling website has an ad for Marinello Beauty School.

[+ tristanbaldwin]

Isn't this a "no hate" environment? We shouldn't be mocking each others fetishes without first understanding them. Furthermore, likening a member of this forum to a sociopath and serial killer because of their domination and submission fetishes is a bit harsh, and unnecessary.

[nate_sf]

Clearly each person's interest is different, but i think that most who enjoy this are enticed by the idea of someone becoming powerless and being forced to do something.

 

In the fantasy scenarios I've been part of, this is exactly the appeal to the client. Again I emphasize it is role-play. In the fantasy the client is subdued by a stranger with a "chloroform" rag, and while he's "under" is stripped naked and tied to the bed. When he "comes to" he finds he is forced to suck a cock, get fucked, get his ass whacked, etc. In the fantasy he is powerless to resist, has no choice in the matter, and this gives him a hard-on. It's fantasy role-play, consensual, and with substituting something harmless for the chloroform is designed so nobody gets hurt.

 

I'll say this kind of role-play scenario is not one I do very often. The first time I was asked to do one I was doubtful because I don't consider myself to have an especially aggressive personality so was not sure I could pull it off. That can be a challenge in any role play, being able to keep in character so you have to think if you can do it.

 

Once several years ago I went to see an escort who's ad caught my eye and after I told him I was interested in exploring role-play he suggested we do a coach/jock scenario with him as the coach. About 10 minutes into it he suddenly says, "oh fuck it, let's screw" and we both laughed and went ahead with a good old-fashioned make-out and fuck. I think that was what I really wanted anyway.

[leigh.bess.toad]

Isn't this a "no hate" environment? We shouldn't be mocking each others fetishes without first understanding them. Furthermore, likening a member of this forum to a sociopath and serial killer because of their domination and submission fetishes is a bit harsh, and unnecessary.

 

Tristan -- I certainly wasn't mocking someone else's fetishes. I was really trying to understand what the attraction was of knocking someone out like that. Especially if you are the "victim". The risks, much as you detailed, seem quite high, especially if the person isn't a complete expert. I understand the wrestling part. It's the chloroform and being knocked out that doesn't connect with me at all.

[leigh.bess.toad]

Once several years ago I went to see an escort who's ad caught my eye and after I told him I was interested in exploring role-play he suggested we do a coach/jock scenario with him as the coach. About 10 minutes into it he suddenly says, "oh fuck it, let's screw" and we both laughed and went ahead with a good old-fashioned make-out and fuck. I think that was what I really wanted anyway.

 

Notes are being taken, you know.

[CowboyUp]

I say "Live and Let Live,"...but it doesn't turn me "on" at all. In fact it's a total turn-off.

[Bosguy]

I personally do not find this appealing, but, if it can be done safely, is conscentual, and appeals to both parties, do your thing. However, please rearead Raul and Tristan's posts about the real dangers.

 

The best answer to the thread was from Nate "make out and fuck"

He's a funny guy--In NYC last summer I asked him what he wanted to do for supper. His immediate response was "fuck and get a hamburger"

 

Boston Bill

[Phil_musc]

Now Nate's idea - now that I totally get. I suspect that the burger part doesn't have to be a part of the scenario either.

[bcohen7719]

Guys:

 

I actually meant, does anyone get off on watching mock/fake

chloroform wrestling matches.

 

BC