Woof?

[gcursor]

Well apparently after several recent PRIDE celebrations, people are thinking (tongue-in-cheek) that some words may be banned from the gay lexicon. One of these is:

 

WOOF

 

Anyway that's not the point I'm trying to make....and I'm not here to debate that. I'm here to ask for the proper definition (not from the dictionary but from your mind) of the word

 

WOOF

[Guest Rich.]

OK, show him your bone. If he goes "WOOF!", there's a good chance he'll follow you home.

 

Richard

[+ purplekow]

WOOF! i want to do you doggie style

[GoodFella69]

Good question gcursor. I've used "woof!" to indicate that I think a guy is uber-masculine or super macho.

 

While I'm not certain I completely agree (or like) the following definition, the online Urban Dictionary defines "Woof" this way:

 

 

In the gay community, it's an adjective used to describe a sexy guy, but not the feminine kind of guy, but a more masculine guy; one who you wouldn't identify as being gay if you saw him on the street. Examples:

1) If you see a hot guy, you say: "Woof!"

 

2) He's woofy!

 

The online Dictionary of Slang provides a similar definition:

 

An interjection. Depending on the inflection of the tone it can mean anything from wow to sexy, hot, or intense.

 

I hope this is helpful.

 

Goodfella

[+ Gar1eth]

WOOF?WOOFY__A Picture Is Worth A 1000 Words

 

http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/hugh-jackman-shirtless4.jpg

 

Gman

[GoodFella69]

Indeed Gman! I greatly prefer your definition and could definitely sink my teeth into that Woof-burger!

 

Cheers,

Goodfella

[Guy Fawkes]

or for those that prefer the wolf twinks

 

http://blastr.com/assets_c/2011/06/TeenWolf-Scott-thumb-550x529-63799.jpg

[Rick Munroe]

not the feminine kind of guy, but a more masculine guy; one who you wouldn't identify as being gay if you saw him on the street.

 

I agree that I don't like this homophobic definition from urban dictionary. Yeah, who would ever assume a masculine guy on the street was gay? Everyone knows we're all swishy drag queens.

[GoodFella69]

Yes, my sentiments exactly Rick! Truth is, these days the hottest, most muscular and masculine guys you see on the street, in the airport or in the gym ARE most likely gay!

[RexAll]

or for those that prefer the wolf twinks

 

http://blastr.com/assets_c/2011/06/TeenWolf-Scott-thumb-550x529-63799.jpg

 

 

You are right Daddy, he is cute-- but the blood-stained clothing and the yellow eyes are weirding me out.

 

Rex

[RexAll]

I agree that I don't like this homophobic definition from urban dictionary. Yeah, who would ever assume a masculine guy on the street was gay? Everyone knows we're all swishy drag queens.

 

But Rick-- I get a little tired of you harping on this point. Granted not every straight male is extremely masculine. In fact there is an acquaintance of mine from elementary school that I've recently found on FB who always seemed a little light in his loafers, and whom I would have not been surprised if he had turned out gay is at least ostensibly straight ( married with children-- and yes I know that being married doesn't necessarily mean he's straight). And I will also grant that what I remember from my meeting with you years ago is that you are both gay and masculine. But all of us on this Board know that there are a large proportion of us who are not stereotypically masculine but more on the effeminate side. I am probably one of them. So can't we grant that there is some truth to the stereotype that a lot of gay men are effeminate-- even while we also acknowledge that there are effeminate straight guys out there too?

 

Rex

[Guest Rich.]

Everyone knows we're all swishy drag queens.

 

Well they wouldn't if you'd not crawled up the aisle on your hands and knees in a white leather jumpsuit twitching your tush.

 

I mean, that's not going to get you a "WOOF!" right? You might get a "CHEEP!", or the odd Twitter.

 

Richard

[Rick Munroe]

But Rick-- I get a little tired of you harping on this point.

 

That makes two of us. I get tired of having to continually educate gay members of a gay message board about an outdated stereotype.

 

But all of us on this Board know that there are a large proportion of us who are not stereotypically masculine but more on the effeminate side.

 

I'm a member of the board so you can't include me in "all of us." Don't include GoodFella69, either:

 

Truth is, these days the hottest, most muscular and masculine guys you see on the street, in the airport or in the gym ARE most likely gay!

 

Uh oh, that could actually become a new stereotype.

 

So can't we grant that there is some truth to the stereotype that a lot of gay men are effeminate-- even while we also acknowledge that there are effeminate straight guys out there too?

 

No, because that makes no sense. Can't we grant that there is some truth to the stereotype that a lot of black men are lazy and on welfare, even while we also acknowledge that there are black men out there who have jobs?

[Rick Munroe]

You might get a "CHEEP!", or the odd Twitter.

 

 

Only if I post a twitpic!

[JT Brooklyn]

or for those that prefer the wolf twinks

 

http://blastr.com/assets_c/2011/06/TeenWolf-Scott-thumb-550x529-63799.jpg

 

IF this is the "Teen Wolf" on MTV he definitely is evolving out of the Twink Stage into a Young Hunk! The Older "Wolf" on this show is a Gorgeous Guy!

[RexAll]

That makes two of us. I get tired of having to continually educate gay members of a gay message board about an outdated stereotype.

 

Rick--when was the last time you saw a straight guy, put his hand on his hips with the fingers pointed down and to the back and his same side buttock being swung out--kinda like this

 

http://us.cdn4.123rf.com/168nwm/phakimata/phakimata0904/phakimata090400012/4595962-beautiful-brunette-business-woman-with-sexy-attitude-standing-wearing-gray-skirt-and-blue-blouse-wit.jpg

 

Again not all gay guys are stereotypically effeminate and not all straight guys are stereotypically butch. But in multiple cities that I have lived in--I have known more obviously effeminate gay men than I have known effeminate straight guys. And I'll bet a scientific study would prove--that while a majority of gay men are not effeminate--that a larger proportion of gay men are effeminate compared to the the proportion of effeminate straight guys.

 

Rex

[+ deej]

IF this is the "Teen Wolf" on MTV he definitely is evolving out of the Twink Stage into a Young Hunk! The Older "Wolf" on this show is a Gorgeous Guy!

 

Yeah, that's the teen wolf. The current episode (on the MTV website) is actually worth watching. The show is sort of spotty, but this episode you can watch without sound and be perfectly happy. (Woof!) Although you'd miss one of the best camp lines of the year: "This one grew in all the right places. I don't know whether to kill it or lick it."

[Rick Munroe]

LOL You're tired of the topic but you really want to drag it out!

 

Rick--when was the last time you saw a straight guy, put his hand on his hips with the fingers pointed down and to the back and his same side buttock being swung out--kinda like this

 

http://us.cdn4.123rf.com/168nwm/phakimata/phakimata0904/phakimata090400012/4595962-beautiful-brunette-business-woman-with-sexy-attitude-standing-wearing-gray-skirt-and-blue-blouse-wit.jpg

 

I don't understand where this is coming from, but OK, I'll bite. I see this pose all the time, at the gym. Although you can't tell someone's sexual orientation just from looking at them. You really can't ever be sure unless you ask them.

 

in multiple cities that I have lived in--I have known more obviously effeminate gay men than I have known effeminate straight guys.

 

Again, how do you know everyone's sexual orientation? Do you constantly ask? And all this proves is that those are the types of people Rex knows.

 

And I'll bet a scientific study would prove--that while a majority of gay men are not effeminate--that a larger proportion of gay men are effeminate compared to the the proportion of effeminate straight guys.

 

OK, do that scientific study and get back to us.

[RexAll]

LOL You're tired of the topic but you really want to drag it out!

 

 

 

I don't understand where this is coming from, but OK, I'll bite. I see this pose all the time, at the gym. Although you can't tell someone's sexual orientation just from looking at them. You really can't ever be sure unless you ask them.

 

 

 

Again, how do you know everyone's sexual orientation? Do you constantly ask? And all this proves is that those are the types of people Rex knows.

 

 

 

OK, do that scientific study and get back to us.

 

Rick-- again just to be clear I'm not saying that all gay men are effiminate-- and very likely not even a majority are. But I have a question for you. If you have enough straight friends or acquaintances that you know are straight, what's the proportion of them that effeminate compared to the proportion of effeminate gay men that you know out of your gay friends and acquaintances. I would like to ask all of you this. I am not trying to be hateful about this. I put myself among those who aren't particularly masculine. I also put Rick as not acting particularly effeminate. But I see what I see. And I don't think my vision is that skewed. I think I am seeing what is there.

 

Rex

[Rick Munroe]

If you have enough straight friends or acquaintances that you know are straight, what's the proportion of them that effeminate compared to the proportion of effeminate gay men that you know out of your gay friends and acquaintances.

 

In all seriousness, I know more effeminate straight males than gay ones. Maybe it's the influence of their wives or maybe they're just very comfortable being who they are and don't feel the need to do any macho posturing. And most of the gay men I know are hyper-masculine. But I still say that, in general, unless it's a friend or acquaintance, there's no way to tell someone's orientation just from their behavior or dress (unless they're in a gay bar sucking cock in the urinal).

[+ purplekow]

there's no way to tell someone's orientation just from their behavior or dress (unless they're in a gay bar sucking cock in the urinal).

And that would make them.......gay??? Geez you suck on one large juicy dick in a gay bar and suddenly your gay.

[Rick Munroe]

And that would make them.......gay??? Geez you suck on one large juicy dick in a gay bar and suddenly your gay.

 

OK, fine; that would make them gay-acting!

[RexAll]

In all seriousness, I know more effeminate straight males than gay ones. Maybe it's the influence of their wives or maybe they're just very comfortable being who they are and don't feel the need to do any macho posturing. And most of the gay men I know are hyper-masculine. But I still say that, in general, unless it's a friend or acquaintance, there's no way to tell someone's orientation just from their behavior or dress (unless they're in a gay bar sucking cock in the urinal).

 

Ahh to some extent we are talking about apples and oranges. I agree you can't tell for sure by the way someone acts or dresses whether they are gay or straight-- although in many cases-- I think you can be 99% sure. What I was saying is that of the men that I know are gay-- and of the men that I am 99% sure are straight-- there is a greater proportion of extremely effeminate guys among the men I know to be gay than there are among the men I am almost positive are straight. However, I'd love to meet all these effeminate straight men that you know. Maybe I'd change my opinion.

 

Rex

[Rick Munroe]

I agree you can't tell for sure by the way someone acts or dresses whether they are gay or straight-- although in many cases-- I think you can be 99% sure.

 

If you can't tell for sure, how can you also be 99% sure at the same time? You're only sure because you're assuming that you're right without confirming it. You don't actually know for sure.

[Guest Rich.]

OK, I'll stick my oar in.

 

I've come to believe it's a generational thing. I get to hang out with a group of young (18-22) sportsmen, and their behaviour would definitely have got them labelled 'gay' 20+ years ago.

 

I watch them fight over the mirror, check out and discuss the merits of each other's bodies and their dietary regimes, argue over the best hairdresser for highlights, give each other tips on styling products and the best fake tan, talk knowledgeably and in-depth about fashion and fashion designers, etc. etc.

 

Some of them openly admit to having had sex with other guys. One of them, an extremely impressive hunk of masculinity, wondered out loud if he was bisexual and got jeered by his teammates and told that if someone drilled a hole he'd be a treehugger too! I recall a heated discussion with them about rimming, they'd seen it in porn but never found a girl who was willing to go there. I felt in dire need of a portable respirator when almost all of them said they'd let a guy do it to them, just to get the box ticked!

 

We also have another guy whose a real pretty, pretty boy. I initially thought I'd have to be a bit protective of him when he first signed up. He moves like a dancer, curls his eyelashes (which he's forever batting at everyone, both men and women) and wears tinted lipgloss. I protect him? What a joke! The rest of the team beg to go out with the guy. Apparently, he's a total babe-magnet, and consistently pulls two-or-more girls so he can enjoy a threesome or above. Go figure!

 

As far as I'm aware, not one of these young men self-identifies as gay. To them, that seems to mean a lifestyle choice, not whether they fool around with other blokes. Several of them admit to doing so regularly, but are also enthusiastic about eventually getting married and having kids.

 

So, for me in 2011, I've reached the conclusion that amongst the young'uns it's now impossible to guess visually or by behaviour, who's homo or hetero. As for the historic labels, IMHO they now appear to reference how you intend to live your life rather than what you get up to in bed.

 

Just my 2¢.

 

Richard