Mini Driver: $ up front & broken nose?

[Bart]

I think we are making too many generalities here based upon the information other than it is not a good idea to send monies in-advance. I will admit I did do it once for a porn star but I would never do it again. He did show up and it was not an issue, but I would probably not do it again.

 

Not all young people are in it for drugs, I think there are older folk who have as many issues as the younger. I tend not to higher younger, under 25, because I rarely find any I can seem to connect to.

 

I use the reviews as a guide but to me I look for the do the stats match, picture match, and if the gentleman was enthusiastic and/or passionate. But reviews are no guarrantee regardless whether there a reviewers with multiple reviews or first-time reviewers. I have haired a couple of guys with all positive reviews and it did not turn out very well. I have also hired guys with few or no reviews and I have had a great time.

 

I use to post reviews all the time. I do have a couple of reviews coming but I am just not very excited to do so. One will be negative but I have not been happy how negative reviews have been considered. Such as this one, the reviewer was questioned as to his background, maybe not real and guess what the escort admitted it and numerous occassions at that. Those that know the escort have rallied to his defense wow the client is still out not only the fee but the airfare. Now an escort claims to have never been given the right to respond, well that is silly since this board goes way over the top to make sure the escort gets the last word (even given help by others to write the response) and sometimes twice.

 

I agreee we all make mistakes but it is how we respond that determines the phrase, gentlemen or the word that begins with "w". Noah has admitted his wrong and how his actions go from here will most likely determine whether his business will survive. This is actually a time I would hope that if Noah does responde to the review that Daddy allows the client to respond as to whether Noah fulfilled the responsibility to make the client whole again, because statements admitting wrong look good for him, but no knowledge if he followed through do nobody any good.

[Jaker27]

"Frankly, most of the folks who responded in the negative were never going to hire Noah anyway, so it's not really an issue" Because I don't hire the guy I shouldn't be allowed an opinion? I wasn't going to respond till some of his victims ummm clients came forward to tell their side.

 

There's always going to be a client base for him though. Like one previous poster just said. I don't care what they do or did. Just as long as the pics/stats match. As long as they got a big one, hot bod, cute face, young, or whatever it doesn't matter. Character just will never matter. Besides the bad boy image is kind of sexy to some. Just look at hollywood and of coarse the music industry. Breaking laws and getting into trouble only helps your career.

[MsGuy]

However, it's nice to finally see someone from management step in and try to curb check this crap. Now if they'd only let Noah write a proper response to this review.

 

In all fairness to Daddy, I doubt the absence of a response is on him:

 

"And Daddy always attempts to solicite a responce."

[orbital sander]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that Daddy always gave the reviewed escort a chance to respond prior to the review being posted. Does Daddy ever post a response to a review after it has been posted?

[Scorpio]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that Daddy always gave the reviewed escort a chance to respond prior to the review being posted. Does Daddy ever post a response to a review after it has been posted?

 

Yes, responses have been posted long after the initial review has been posted. If you look at Daddy's post in this thread it appears that he did solicit a response from the escort in question but a response was not given.

[Guest greatness]

I agree.

 

Though they may not have the body of a twenty year old they are generally more reliable and less likely to have other psychological problems.

[humboldt]

I would kindly suggest that all of those posters who are so willing and eager to jump to Noah’s defense hurry up and hire him so that he’ll have some cash on hand to reimburse those who claim to have been screwed by him… though, in these instances, not literally!

[jimboivyo]

In all fairness to Daddy, I doubt the absence of a response is on him:

 

"And Daddy always attempts to solicite a responce."

 

 

Yes, and that would also be assuming that everything Daddy posts is 100% correct. That, as with anything in life, is not always the case.

[+ glutes]

Oh, the drama! Unconscious in a lake with 2 black eyes and rushed to the hospital, why weren't Gage and Desoto summoned? I am wondering if the water ski 'accident' was really one of the clients who caught up with Mini, and gave some just desserts...

 

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4rotcvEF0iha3UrcryIZxfjbEZEBNW9-JjTc69Y94qSdqj-Y&t=1&usg=__ug5Zj13gWR-958yffhyJKaSsJgU=

 

We looking at looking at a admitted serial plagiarist coaching a now admitted serial fraudster. Benjamin and Noah, Lehman Brothers of Hooville! I bet ya San Antone Police Bunko Squad has their phone ringing off the hook...

[orbital sander]

Oh, the drama! Unconscious in a lake with 2 black eyes and rushed to the hospital, why weren't Gage and Desoto summoned? I am wondering if the water ski 'accident' was really one of the clients who caught up with Mini, and gave some just desserts...

 

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4rotcvEF0iha3UrcryIZxfjbEZEBNW9-JjTc69Y94qSdqj-Y&t=1&usg=__ug5Zj13gWR-958yffhyJKaSsJgU=

 

We looking at looking at a admitted serial plagiarist coaching a now admitted serial fraudster. Benjamin and Noah, Lehman Brothers of Hooville! I bet ya San Antone Police Bunko Squad has their phone ringing off the hook...

 

Who is spot?

[Scorpio]

serial plagiarist

 

Funny, the photos you post never include any photographer credits or copyright releases....just saying!

[+ glutes]

You are correct Mr. Scorpio. The image source is easily seen by right clicking on the picture - and it will give you the all the details under 'properties'.

I ain't claiming to be delivering friends babies...

[+ deej]

Yes, and that would also be assuming that everything Daddy posts is 100% correct. That, as with anything in life, is not always the case.

 

It has been observed that calling Daddy a liar is not a sure-fire recipe for success.

[+ glutes]

More grist for the mill, said nose injury occured on / around 21JULY (when Mini flaked on frequentflyer) and wouldn't you know, look at his picture dated 11AUG from his own blog. The advances of modern medicine!

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_w9YPip23c2I/TGHcUih-QzI/AAAAAAAAAh8/dV6WzjI4GEo/s320/IMG_1039-710811.jpg

 

http://noahdriver.blogspot.com/2010_08_01_archive.html

 

BTW: His blog is titled (I am not making this up)...

 

The Misadventures of Noah Driver...

You've been warned *wink*

[Lookin]

Dante reserved the lowest circle of Hell for those who betrayed friends.

They're taking reservations now? Who knew?

 

http://somehavehats.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/gates_of_hell.jpg

 

Hi, I booked a one-bedroom in the Asphodel Meadows,

air conditioning, and upwind of the swine of Gehenna.

[Guy Fawkes]

Always!

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that Daddy always gave the reviewed escort a chance to respond prior to the review being posted. Does Daddy ever post a response to a review after it has been posted?

[seeker630]

Oh, the drama! Unconscious in a lake with 2 black eyes and rushed to the hospital, why weren't Gage and Desoto summoned? I am wondering if the water ski 'accident' was really one of the clients who caught up with Mini, and gave some just desserts...

 

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4rotcvEF0iha3UrcryIZxfjbEZEBNW9-JjTc69Y94qSdqj-Y&t=1&usg=__ug5Zj13gWR-958yffhyJKaSsJgU=

 

We looking at looking at a admitted serial plagiarist coaching a now admitted serial fraudster. Benjamin and Noah, Lehman Brothers of Hooville! I bet ya San Antone Police Bunko Squad has their phone ringing off the hook...

You seem determined to maximize the drama - in case there isn't enough without your speculations. Your vendettas are almost ancient, by now.

[Guy Fawkes]

I don't think he did that, he just pointed out a Paul Harvey trueism: "Now you know the rest of the story!"

 

It has been observed that calling Daddy a liar is not a sure-fire recipe for success.

[AdamSmith]

the asphodel meadows,[/font][/color][/i][/b]

 

rofl

 

air conditioning, and upwind of the swine of gehenna.[/font][/color][/i][/b]

 

roflmao!

[MiamiLooker]

Solicitation for Prostitution and Patronizing a Prostitute are not crimes?

 

I don't know what the agreements between ND and the client was. Was ND renting out his holes or was the client paying for his companionship? Does ND consider himself a prostitute or a paid companion?

 

There doesn't seem to be any dispute that ND asked for payment in advance from more than one client (we can only speculate how many) over a period of several weeks, and not only did not provide the service, but gave them no indication service would not be provided and then communication stopped with each client. I don't know without a doubt if his actions were deliberate or not, but “If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it must be a duck".

 

A definition I found on the internet:

"fraud is a deliberate misrepresentation which causes another person to suffer damages, usually monetary losses"

[jimboivyo]

Criminal fraud. Kidding me right? This is prostitution Miamilooker, not a commercial snafu with the better business bureau- The act in itself is an illegal one. That's not saying Noah was right in how he handled this, but give the kid a chance to make it right before sicking the dogs on him.

 

You're one of the reasons this board is seen as only something negative by outsiders. Getting your jollies from being a complete asshole to someone you really know nothing about is sad and worthless.

[Scorpio]

More grist for the mill, said nose injury occured on / around 21JULY (when Mini flaked on frequentflyer) and wouldn't you know, look at his picture dated 11AUG from his own blog. The advances of modern medicine!

 

 

Not sure why this particular mill needs anymore grist. The reviewer had his say, Noah admitted that the review was true and stated he was trying to work things out with his clients (plural), but that remains to be seen.

But as usual your reportage of the details seems slanted (or false as in the escort with no teeth story) so as to fuel your own particular obsession and/or vendetta with certain escorts. I take it you want us to infer from the photograph of August 11th that the broken nose/black eye never occurred. Even if that were the correct inference, I fail to see the point. Noah admits the review is true, so whether or not he had a black eye and a broken nose doesn’t change the fact he collected fees in advance and didn’t provide the services. However, the photograph does not prove or disprove that the supposed accident occurred. The blog entry of July 21st states that two or three days early that Noah suffered a concussion, a black eye and a broken nose. The blog entry of July 21st also states that the black eye had started to fade as of that date, so the fact that it is not visible in the August 11th photograph some 20 days after the accident doesn’t disprove that the black eye occurred. It only proves that if did it occur it was no longer visible. Again the blog entry states that swelling had started to subside by July 21st, so the fact that none is visible in the August 11th photograph doesn’t prove anything. A broken nose is often not bandaged, so again the photograph does not disprove that Noah’s nose was broken 20 odd days earlier. And as far as I know a concussion does not photograph.

I’m not defending Noah, what he did was wrong and I hope that he makes restitution. But no good is served by your obsession and slanted reporting. You’ve been after this boy from day one merely because he was in some way associated with BN; trying to taint him with BN’s past indiscretions (which I also did not defend). And now, you’re trying to use Noah’s indiscretions to cast further aspersions on BN because it suits your twisted obsessions. I don’t know what if any their official relationship was, but I’m fairly observant and based on the clues their association seems to have ended many months ago.

I’m all for shedding light on wrongdoing when it occurs. But once the wrongdoings have been exposed and the blame has been acknowledge and accepted nit picking details and beating dead horses serves no purpose

[Scorpio]

You're one of the reasons this board is seen as only something negative by outsiders. Getting your jollies from being a complete asshole to someone you really know nothing about is sad and worthless.

 

Didn't seem to stop you from issuing your "Buyer Beware" warning regarding AJ Irons, when all you really know about him is that you didn't like the way he handled email communications with you. So you really don't know whether there is anything to beware or not. All you really know is that you couldn't schedule an appointment.

 

I agree that Noah should be allowed an opportunity to rectify his situation, but you should also recognize your own hypocrisies if you want to be taken seriously.

[jimboivyo]

Not sure why this particular mill needs anymore grist. The reviewer had his say, Noah admitted that the review was true and stated he was trying to work things out with his clients (plural), but that remains to be seen.

But as usual your reportage of the details seems slanted (or false as in the escort with no teeth story) so as to fuel your own particular obsession and/or vendetta with certain escorts. I take it you want us to infer from the photograph of August 11th that the broken nose/black eye never occurred. Even if that were the correct inference, I fail to see the point. Noah admits the review is true, so whether or not he had a black eye and a broken nose doesn’t change the fact he collected fees in advance and didn’t provide the services. However, the photograph does not prove or disprove that the supposed accident occurred. The blog entry of July 21st states that two or three days early that Noah suffered a concussion, a black eye and a broken nose. The blog entry of July 21st also states that the black eye had started to fade as of that date, so the fact that it is not visible in the August 11th photograph some 20 days after the accident doesn’t disprove that the black eye occurred. It only proves that if did it occur it was no longer visible. Again the blog entry states that swelling had started to subside by July 21st, so the fact that none is visible in the August 11th photograph doesn’t prove anything. A broken nose is often not bandaged, so again the photograph does not disprove that Noah’s nose was broken 20 odd days earlier. And as far as I know a concussion does not photograph.

I’m not defending Noah, what he did was wrong and I hope that he makes restitution. But no good is served by your obsession and slanted reporting. You’ve been after this boy from day one merely because he was in some way associated with BN; trying to taint him with BN’s past indiscretions (which I also did not defend). And now, you’re trying to use Noah’s indiscretions to cast further aspersions on BN because it suits your twisted obsessions. I don’t know what if any their official relationship was, but I’m fairly observant and based on the clues their association seems to have ended many months ago.

I’m all for shedding light on wrongdoing when it occurs. But once the wrongdoings have been exposed and the blame has been acknowledge and accepted nit picking details and beating dead horses serves no purpose

 

 

Well said- Lots of folks on this message board like to do this. Like I said in my last post, it seems to be one of many reasons escorts don't feel comfortable posting here. Instead of being a board that celebrates the industry, it just picks it apart until there's nothing left but dust.

 

What Benjamin did has long since been forgiven by those that matter, or so he tells me. BN's continued to prove he's a fantastic, reliable escort, with numerous reviews, mine included, all very positive. Yes, Noah's fouled up here, admitted to it and is making headway in making sure it's wrapped up quickly. What's left to complain about? Did it personally affect you? Have you been wronged? The fact is most of you haven't and you're only using this issue to further your own bitter energy. It's one thing to disagree with what happened, but another to wish ill on someone or push back just for the sake of being a jerk.

[jimboivyo]

Didn't seem to stop you from issuing your "Buyer Beware" warning regarding AJ Irons, when all you really know about him is that you didn't like the way he handled email communications with you. So you really don't know whether there is anything to beware or not. All you really know is that you couldn't schedule an appointment.

 

I agree that Noah should be allowed an opportunity to rectify his situation, but you should also recognize your own hypocrisies if you want to be taken seriously.

 

I repeat- Noah has never been anything but professional and honest with me. I've seen him several times, so how is what I said anything near hypocritical? It's obvious based on the replies since my posting on AJ that I'm not the only one with these issues. That's just black and white truth.

 

I can only make judgements based on my own experiences. Noah's always worked out for me. AJ did not. Simple as that.